Let me direct you to the title: "Nintendo's next platform will run Android." + some buzzfeed bullshit on the end.
If you start "discussions" this way you will always get resistance. This is a very heavy-handed thread claiming your stab in the dark is closer than any other stab in the dark.
The first step is to have evidence behind your assertions.
As it sits now, this thread jumped to the top of my "worst threads of 2014 list" pretty much based on your approach.
Next time present your opinions as opinions and don't expect the burden of disproving your opinions to be placed on your audience. The burden of proof is on you when you said Nintendo's next platform will run Android.
So far, all I see is:
1. People laughing at the idea;
2. People pointing to piracy as the only reason Android will not be adopted.
Adoption of Android does not = piracy. As has been mentioned, it can be locked down. Nintendo is getting much better at that.
I listed off six good reasons why Android makes business sense for Nintendo. I am yet to see a reason why it does not.
Iwata: How did people find MarioGalaxy3.apk? I hid it inside many confusing folders :0Android can not be locked down. Any device released on android has been shattered open and allowed sidelining of apps and games and eventual custom rom installation.
For someone unfamiliar with Android and only going with what I see online, wouldn't this make it easily susceptible for hacking/piracy?
Edit: Apparently it would.
Edit 2:
I have removed the "All but confirmed" line as its usage was distracting from the purpose of the thread.
That's cutting off a revenue stream, so unless their next console makes absolutely no money it isn't worth it.
Nintendo next home platform:
Plays dedicated Nintendo NX games
Plays Nintendo smartphone games
Backwards compatible with Wii U games
Possibly also plays Nintendo 4DS games, akin to Super Game Boy and Game Boy Player, in order to bolster the console's library and not end up with another Wii U situation
Nintendo next handheld platform:
Plays dedicated Nintendo 4DS games
Plays Nintendo smartphone games
Backwards compatible with Nintendo 3DS games
Subbed for the giveaway
As a launch 3DS owner who loves MK7, I bought a WiiU literally because of MK8. Nintendo has always made money from selling hardware, it's just that for the first time ever, 3DS and WiiU started being sold at a loss. That won't happen next generation.I've had this debate in the past, and that's not true at all. Soft make money, not hardware.
Take a simple exemple. Mario kart.
In proposition A, there is a WiiU, MK8 sells way less than the 7th.
Proposition b, no WiiU, MK8 is released on 3ds after MK7. it sells more, cause the park is bigger, more money to make.
You gonna tell me "but on 3ds they already had one so it wouldn't sell" which is super wrong. Cause there is one and only Nintendo fanbase, and Mario Kart fan base, not one on console and one on portable, and the rare people who will tell me "oh i'm a big fan of nitnendo but i never play their game on portable" well.. are have a weird appreciation of nintendo's game to begin with..
So far, all I see is:
1. People laughing at the idea;
2. People pointing to piracy as the only reason Android will not be adopted.
Nintendo, "should," use a modified version of Android OS for their next major platform, because it's cheap, relatively stable, and would allow easy porting back and forth between mobile devices. But lets be real here, it's Nintendo. Nintendo has proven time and time again that they're perfectly willing to go it alone, and lending some IP out to a mobile game company doesn't necessarily change that.
I certainly wouldn't be surprised if their next platform ran off a modified version of Android OS, but I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't either.
So far, all I see is:
1. People laughing at the idea;
2. People pointing to piracy as the only reason Android will not be adopted.
Adoption of Android does not = piracy. As has been mentioned, it can be locked down. Nintendo is getting much better at that.
I listed off six good reasons why Android makes business sense for Nintendo. I am yet to see a reason why it does not.
Somebody has never been to a debate before, it seems. The title is a typical debate topic. I added the "Here's why" part to make it blindingly obvious that it was an assertion.
There is some good discussion getting going, though, so let's bring our attention to that and ignore the discussion-halting responses such as GIF replies and whatnot.
It'd need to be modified and locked down, which is certainly doable but would take work. Frankly though, yeah, if Nintendo doesn't use Android, this would be the reason why.
Conversely though, the ease of porting and how cheap it would be to utilize the OS should still make it attractive. Again though, I wouldn't be surprised either way.
Then you are clearly ignoring the other posts in the thread.
I have seen:
I picked all those up just by skimming. I could get more by actually reading in depth.
- Piracy
- Stability
- Loss of control
- Doesn't follow historical trends
- Hinders performance
Great! Then let's discuss those points, rather than critiquing the OP's presentation style.
I can't find a post about stability. But Android is better-supported than Nintendo's own OSes ever will be, so I think we can agree that Android as a starting point is much better than 0.
As for piracy, Nintendo has a lot of experience in this area. Rather than spending 3 - 5 years building their own OS and a fraction of that on security, they can fork Android and spend 3 - 5 years (or far less) on security. You can also build security into the hardware, although with digital becoming the norm, it is much less effective.
To get the most out of performance, Nintendo can optimise their fork. If we're going to talk about performance, perhaps we should look at Wii U and its horrendous performance.
"Doesn't follow historical trends" and "Loss of control" doesn't mean anything anymore. Nintendo is now developing for other platforms, didn't you hear?
A little late for that...everyone already caught your bluff and the mods will shortly.
I'm waiting for you to give me an example of an un-rootable Android device. Or for you to consider that Nintendo is good at fighting piracy -because- of their closed, propietary OS (starting this gen).Great! Then let's discuss those points, rather than critiquing the OP's presentation style.
I can't find a post about stability. But Android is better-supported than Nintendo's own OSes ever will be, so I think we can agree that Android as a starting point is much better than 0.
As for piracy, Nintendo has a lot of experience in this area. Rather than spending 3 - 5 years building their own OS and a fraction of that on security, they can fork Android and spend 3 - 5 years (or far less) on security. You can also build security into the hardware, although with digital becoming the norm, it is much less effective.
To get the most out of performance, Nintendo can optimise their fork. If we're going to talk about performance, perhaps we should look at Wii U and its horrendous performance.
"Doesn't follow historical trends" and "Loss of control" doesn't mean anything anymore. Nintendo is now developing for other platforms, didn't you hear?
I think does not equal "Fact"
Are you nuts? Why the fuck would Nintendo waste money on that when they can go for way more secure stuff like FreeBSD?
Again: Tales from your ass.
It's not a "bluff." "All but confirmed" does not mean "confirmed" it means that everything is in place in order for it to happen.
Here's a Yahoo Answers post with somebody else's explanation.
It's not a "bluff." "All but confirmed" does not mean "confirmed" – it means that everything is in place in order for it to happen.
Here's a Yahoo Answers post with somebody else's explanation.
which is the fact that Nintendo is already developing for Android/iOS.
Because of the reasons listed in the post... the most noteworthy of which is the fact that Nintendo is already developing for Android/iOS.
Alright that's it. You're citing yahoo answers as a source. This entire thread has to be a troll and I have to say well fucking done on that front.It's not a "bluff." "All but confirmed" does not mean "confirmed" it means that everything is in place in order for it to happen.
Here's a Yahoo Answers post with somebody else's explanation.
Great! Then let's discuss those points, rather than critiquing the OP's presentation style.
I can't find a post about stability. But Android is better-supported than Nintendo's own OSes ever will be, so I think we can agree that Android as a starting point is much better than 0.
As for piracy, Nintendo has a lot of experience in this area. Rather than spending 3 - 5 years building their own OS and a fraction of that on security, they can fork Android and spend 3 - 5 years (or far less) on security. You can also build security into the hardware, although with digital becoming the norm, it is much less effective.
To get the most out of performance, Nintendo can optimise their fork. If we're going to talk about performance, perhaps we should look at Wii U and its horrendous performance.
"Doesn't follow historical trends" and "Loss of control" doesn't mean anything anymore. Nintendo is now developing for other platforms, didn't you hear?
Oh boy, Yahoo answers.
Did we ever find out how babby is formed?
Omg, a yahoo answers link, this is amazing
Does it?Why? I don't see what's wrong with using an established OS and building on top of it. Hell, the PS4 runs on FreeBSD.
It's not a "bluff." "All but confirmed" does not mean "confirmed" it means that everything is in place in order for it to happen.
Here's a Yahoo Answers post with somebody else's explanation.
Omg, a yahoo answers link, this is amazing
Do you guys need a Yahoo Answers link for "irony" too?
It's not a "bluff." "All but confirmed" does not mean "confirmed" it means that everything is in place in order for it to happen.
Here's a Yahoo Answers post with somebody else's explanation.
Because of the reasons listed in the post... the most noteworthy of which is the fact that Nintendo is already developing for Android/iOS.
It's not a "bluff." "All but confirmed" does not mean "confirmed" it means that everything is in place in order for it to happen.
Here's a Yahoo Answers post with somebody else's explanation.
I've had this debate in the past, and that's not true at all. Soft make money, not hardware.
Take a simple exemple. Mario kart.
In proposition A, there is a WiiU, MK8 sells way less than the 7th.
Proposition b, no WiiU, MK8 is released on 3ds after MK7. it sells more, cause the park is bigger, more money to make.
You gonna tell me "but on 3ds they already had one so it wouldn't sell" which is super wrong. Cause there is one and only Nintendo fanbase, and Mario Kart fan base, not one on console and one on portable, and the rare people who will tell me "oh i'm a big fan of nitnendo but i never play their game on portable" well.. are have a weird appreciation of nintendo's game to begin with..