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Do we expect Splatoon to be the next major Nintendo I.P.?

MajorMane

Member
I'm hoping this game does well and that it goes on to continued success. Nintendo is treating it well with proper advertising and marketing as if it were already one of their "major" IP. The testfires certainly convinced me on the game after being on the ropes about it. That being said, newer IPs lack the nostalgia feel for Nintendo that Mario or Zelda have. I think it will do better than Pikmin and will go on to be a somewhat staple in their lineup. The universe and gamestyle fit perfectly with Nintendo.
 

Einbroch

Banned
Mario Kart and Smash Bros. are as well. Splatoon also has a far deeper single player component than MK and arguably Smash as well.

Nintendo is doing what they can to give the game legs. If their free DLC rollout works as intended, the game will be played for quite a long time.

It very much depends on how much it sells out of the gate. If it has a strong initial showing, it can have legs. If it doesn't, the community will die, and it will tank.

The legs this game has will determine whether or not it will succeed, and all that depends on a strong launch. There's kinda no middle ground as far as I can tell. I'm viewing this from a competitive angle. Games that don't have a strong community don't last.
 

botty

Banned
If Kid Icarus could do over a million, Splatoon can. Splatoon's reviews will probably end up just as polarizing, and it's considerably larger marketing push should make up for the smaller install base.

Except one game was made by Masahiro Sakurai... and the other isn't.
 
After playing the demo I now understand why Nintendo has enough confidence in it to bust out the marketing but I still don't think it will do very well.
 
It very much depends on how much it sells out of the gate. If it has a strong initial showing, it can have legs. If it doesn't, the community will die, and it will tank.

The legs this game has will determine whether or not it will succeed, and all that depends on a strong launch. There's kinda no middle ground as far as I can tell. I'm viewing this from a competitive angle. Games that don't have a strong community don't last.

For a new IP like Splatoon, I don't think an amazing launch is needed for success. Word of mouth is going to be more important than anything for this game (the marketing obviously helps a great deal as well). Like many of Nintendo's most popular IPs, it has the potential to be an evergreen title and if the free DLC is substantial enough, the game can easily have legs, even if the launch isn't stellar, though I think it will do well during its opening month for a Wii U game.

Again, we're talking one million copies here. If the game is great that really shouldn't be too hard to achieve at some point. Splatoon is an incredibly accessible game that can be played by just about anyone.
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
Except one game was made by Masahiro Sakurai... and the other isn't.
And? It's not like the general public pays attention to that. If the box for Kid Icarus Uprising said "A Masahiro Sakurai Game" like
Konami used to do
with Kojima, I could somewhat understand your case.
 

Einbroch

Banned
For a new IP like Splatoon, I don't think an amazing launch is needed for success. Word of mouth is going to be more important than anything for this game (the marketing obviously helps a great deal as well). Like many of Nintendo's most popular IPs, it has the potential to be an evergreen title and if the free DLC is substantial enough, the game can easily have legs, even if the launch isn't stellar, though I think it will do well during its opening month for a Wii U game.

I disagree, but you're not wrong, all opinions and guesswork. I just think that no one's going to care if there's a million free DLC packs if their friends aren't playing it.

Guess we'll just have to wait and see.
 

Zombine

Banned
Splatoon will have modest success and those who have been anticipating the title (like myself) will create communities and stick with the game. Splatoon won't post CSGO/Black Ops concurrent users numbers. It'll cap at maybe 2k users peak time, which is enough to find matches happily.
 
Only three games that aren't Mario or Zelda related have sold more than a million on Wii U: Nintedo Land, Smash and Wii U Party. And I wouldn't even count Smash as non Mario or Zelda related. I think some of the expectations for this game are way too high.

Was kinda hoping Tropical Freeza and Pikmin passed that million
Still. They might have and the wiki just hasn't updated / has a source.

Anyway. Sales wise. I hope for the best.
I'm not expecting Splatoon to sell a million but I think it will do good numbers for a new IP on the Wii-U. Hope it exceeds my expectations of course.
 
It's funny you said that, Testfire 2 happened since your post and there was tons of Japanese players, and it was super early for them (7 AM I think).

Honestly, with the big marketting Nintendo is doing right now, it can reach one million. Hopefully the content patches will give it some legs.

To be fair, I was looking at how other Wii U games had done in Japan relative to America and Europe.

Splatoon will likely do well for itself, in terms of software. The real question is: what will it do for hardware? Especially since, unlike Mario Kart, the Wii U Splatoon bundle won't be available everywhere.
 

mcbradle

Neo Member
I honestly think it is going to be underwhelming. At Christmas this year, for kids who already have a PS4/X1, Wii Us may sell (especially if Zelda is on the horizon). But the problem is there is too much out there to pick up with it (MK8, Tropical Freeze, NSMBU, SM3DW, Smash), so it is likely to get grazed over on the shelf for other games by new console purchasers. I just don't see it taking off. I'm not a fan of these type of things, either, so I know I'm out on it. I imagine many others won't drop the cash for it, either. Especially with Witcher recently and Batman coming in a couple weeks.
 

Saro

Member
I feel like it has the potential to really go places. Nintendo has their racing game(I still want F-Zero), fighting game, and now a shooter. Just from playing the demo, I can see Splatoon as a franchise like Mario Kart 8. One game per console gen with bi-monthly updates.
 

Sandfox

Member
I'm expecting Splatoon to do fairly well and get a sequel for Nintendo's next platform in addition to a possible spot in Smash.
 

schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
It's been in #1 spot on Amazon Japan for weeks now. I think you guys will be surprised

If you believe that Comgnet is generally a decent indicator of things..you could see a debut close to 200K in Japan (*could*)
 
This game could be huge for the younger crowd, but I dont see them or their parents getting a Wii U for it. Since the Wii U is still expensive and confusing as hell. Maybe Splatwoon on NX.
 
I feel like it has greater appeal to a younger demo than something like a Pikmin or Tropical Freeze. i think it'll outsell both of those, outside chance of approaching 1/2 of kart's attach rate
 
Of all the things that Nintendo could do to get back in the game, a third person shooter isn't it, no matter how creative it is.
 
At Christmas this year, for kids who already have a PS4/X1, Wii Us may sell (especially if Zelda is on the horizon). But the problem is there is too much out there to pick up with it (MK8, Tropical Freeze, NSMBU, SM3DW, Smash), so it is likely to get grazed over on the shelf for other games by new console purchasers.

I'm NOT saying you're wrong, but isn't it funny how you're essentially saying that the Wii U has too many strong releases?

Big change in sentiment from even just a year ago.
 
They are pushing hard on it. They put this massive sign for it on the *outside* of a Best Buy near my house. Don't think I've ever seen that for any game before.

Will it succeed. I really don't know. It's a huge question mark right now.

The unfortunate part is with their install numbers it's really hard to define an absolute success...in absense of absolutely fajita-plate-hot sales.
 
I honestly think it is going to be underwhelming. At Christmas this year, for kids who already have a PS4/X1, Wii Us may sell (especially if Zelda is on the horizon). But the problem is there is too much out there to pick up with it (MK8, Tropical Freeze, NSMBU, SM3DW, Smash), so it is likely to get grazed over on the shelf for other games by new console purchasers. I just don't see it taking off. I'm not a fan of these type of things, either, so I know I'm out on it. I imagine many others won't drop the cash for it, either. Especially with Witcher recently and Batman coming in a couple weeks.

That's kind of an odd way to look at things.

Splatoon is set to be THE Wii U shooter. Regardless of Splatoon's quality (and judging from the testfire, it's very high quality), there really isn't any other serious competition on the platform. The existence of high quality platformers, racing games, and fighting games on the platform doesn't really affect whether or not somebody wants to play a shooter. And the Witcher & Batman aren't really competitors to Splatoon at all - different platforms, different genres, and different target audiences.

I don't think Splatoon is going to be Wii Sports and convince a ton of people to buy the Wii U. I do think it's going to sell very well on the Wii U compared to other games. I expect it will be in the Top 5 Best Selling Wii U games by the end of the system's lifespan and be the best selling Wii U game that wasn't already part of an existing franchise.
 

ShogunX

Member
predicted (I think it was in this thread) that the market just simply isn't there for Splatoon however.....the more I see of the game and watch on twitch and see how Nintendo are promoting the game I hope it does very well. It's something different and unique from the usual shooters we get every year and most important of all it just looks like pure fun to play.
 
I honestly don't know how this made it to so many pages. The game is being made EAD. Their first new game since the creation of Pikmin. Of course it's a big deal for Nintendo.
 

Oblivion

Fetishing muscular manly men in skintight hosery
Splatoon looks really fun (I kinda regret refusing to play it at E3), and would be great if it was a major success, but I kinda doubt it. Among other reasons, I hear the single player mode is like 3 hours long. No bueno.
 

Vena

Member
Splatoon looks really fun (I kinda regret refusing to play it at E3), and would be great if it was a major success, but I kinda doubt it. Among other reasons, I hear the single player mode is like 3 hours long. No bueno.

You have heard wrong by a little over a factor of 2.
 

Eiolon

Member
I don't expect sales to be very good beyond launch, but I don't think Nintendo will abandon the IP if it does sell poorly. It needs the genre because it's loosing 3rd parties that would fill that void.
 
I'm going to go out on a limb and say over 1 million sales worldwide in 2015. I don't think it'll drastically boost hardware sales, but I think it'll sell extremely well to the existing Wii U base (and give a tiny hardware boost).
 
I expect it to sell at most 1 million. Here in Central Florida, Best Buy don't really seem to do much advertisement to showcase Splatoon and the Wii U. The one I went only had a small section for Nintendo and had nothing even the Wii U SKU with just a sign of splatoon pointing to the section. Maybe it's just Florida or if all Best Buys has Nintendo's section tucked into a corner.
 

FLAguy954

Junior Member
It would have a greater chance to become a long-running IP if Nintendo released it on the 3DS instead or simultaneously.

With the Wii U, there is a greater chance that something like Splatoon will just be a one-off on a failure of a console.
 
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