Well, this did go from "Look at this review guis" to semi-official review thread.
Would look even worse if he didn't actually add the reviews other gaffers brought in.
Might i remind you that the embargo is still up?
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First Splatoon review?
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Well, this did go from "Look at this review guis" to semi-official review thread.
Would look even worse if he didn't actually add the reviews other gaffers brought in.
Might i remind you that the embargo is still up?
Which is what makes it harder to use, actually.
I never said it's not harder to use. It's just that it's still easy. In any case blaming your own shortcomings on the game's balance is not the way to go about it.
Maybe that's because it's one of the first reviews to pop up? Just because the score is not what people expected, it doesn't mean OP has an agenda. Anyone who thinks that is simply presumptuous.
I agree with you, and most of all as i wrote i strongly disagree with the whole "roller is OP" critique.
I'm going to try and squash this before it gets out of hand. This was the first review I saw, I searched and saw no review threads so I posted it. No agenda at all and I feel that is fairly obvious from my posts early in the thread.
So if you are going to try and make this about that kind of stuff please just stop.
So if you are going to try and make this about that kind of stuff please just stop.
Well if Jim enjoyed it I will have to bump my Meta prediction to 85
SmokedMeat
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I'll wait for the reviews from sites I've actually heard of before.
Bummer I missed out on that Best Buy glitch. I'm on Slick Deals and CAG often, yet somehow I still miss things.
Bummer I missed out on that Best Buy glitch. I'm on Slick Deals and CAG often, yet somehow I still miss things.
Criticism exists but from my observation, the backlash other companies got when they badly handled dlc was much more severe.
Yeah, it never made it to those sites as far as I know. It was only up for a couple hours and must not have been taken too advantage of since preorders weren't canceled.
It's no problem dude. There's not really any way you could have known about that video review. Just thought I'd inform you about it though.
1) Why is basic stuff locked behind a cash wall Amiibo? Are their unlock options within the game without having to spend even more cash on it? I have seen the shops for outfits etc already, so I am hoping its attainable without more money being spent.
2) Is there a day one party system? Can I take the party from match to match without having to rebuild it? Why wait till august? Just release it Day 1. What is the reasoning behind leaving it for 3 months?
4) Nintendo have all the highest viewer videos. As much as I dislike him, PewDiePie needed to be on Splatoon like a dry squid on an ink puddle.
If the couch co-op for this game is pretty solid, it will get played alongside Mariokart and Smash Bro's as a diversion. It might do well with my current group of friends.
No no, was talking about that other guy who said I made this thread with an agenda. Your thing might end up being true I can't say either way since I've never heard of this reviewer.
That person is not the OP right? So there.
Which store?
Yes, other companies also release broken games which review quite well. When people realize the game is broken this causes an outrage.
The last game that had troubles at launch for Nintendo was STEAM and guess what that didn't review well and I don't think there was too much outrage or backlash about the reviews.
You mean broken games like Driveclub and AC:U? Those didn't get glowing reviews. Halo MCM was an outlier because the reviewers played in a controlled environment. People often call out companies for On-disc DLC. There are people who call out Nintendo for that too but from what I've seen, Nintendo generally doesn't get as much backlash for stuff like this. Feel free to not believe me but I know what I see.
Should have gone for the 3 pack tbh. I just want the green squid so I have to import.
For what it's worth, mine just arrived from ShopTo. It's out there.
If he's talking about having the squid bundle, that'd suggest he's in Europe; Europe doesn't have the triple-pack.
Psycho_Mantis
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I don't know about the game but the youtube reviewer is pretty good. He explains his reasons well and the review is in depth. He does repeat a few points though and sometimes speaks like a robot.
I'm not so sure about this. Evolve's DLC plan was atrocious but it still went on to sell over 2 million copies. Everyone says Nintendo fans give them a "free pass" when (imo) Nintendo games are a niche genre. Many of the people on the thread predicting whether or not Splatoon IP will be the next big thing predicts this game won't sell over a million copies.
I guess the point I'm trying to make here is that it seems like Nintendo fans give them a free pass (which may be true to some extent) doesn't mean Nintendo isn't receiving a fair amount of backlash for their dlc plan with this game. It may be a reason why this game might not sell anywhere close to Evolve.
Back to OT, i couldn't stand to hear this guy for more than 10 mins, but I've heard his criticism and I think they're valid. However, I don't agree with what he says (or at least I think he says from what I gather from the backlash from his review) that this game is not worth $60. I've played the demo for 30 minutes (3 testfires) and I can't wait to get my hands on this game. Obviously I think this game is worth $60, and so do many other people. I also respect the opinions of others when they say they don't think it's worth $60, mostly because of the amount of content available at launch. I think some people need to learn this is his opinion and does not mean they can dismiss his whole review.
This game can get a 50 on metacritic for all I care, it's proven to me that it's definitely worth my time and money. I can see why some are angry because there is a high chance some review sites may not update score once they release the rest of the content and it may affect the sales in some way, but I think that's the risk Nintendo is taking when they decided to give us (what some would say) little content and the rest later.
Uhh...that was my point? They DO receive some backlash, just not as severe as others.
Splatoon is a pretty hyped up game(it has more hype than Evolve in GAF) as well so it can't be that it's because not many people care for it. Evolve selling that much could probably be due to the casual audience not knowing about the DLC plans or many people just don't care.
Maybe people call companies out for on-disc DLC because the DLC in question has a cost associated with it?
That companies cut out content to make an extra dollar?
Evolve reviewed decently despite the DLC controversy it has a similar concept as Splatoon - roll out more content as time goes by. But at the same time it over viewed that you would pay for certain content.
For Splatoon we don't know other than the Ranked mode whether there is any on-disk DLC. I expect the majority of additional maps to be there for example, but the rest of the content like the new modes Tower Defense/Rainmaker those are obviously getting patched in August.
It's quite simple for me judging from the Devs the game simply has a lot of things they couldn't include in time and are still working on.
If people review the game badly because it's lacking content it's perfectly understandable.
I just don't see what about the plans of future patches similar to things which people got for FREE on MK8 like 200CC would cause an outrage. I don't think you understand that it's not the concept of DLC I have a problem with, it's the pricing structure. Most devs price their DLC idiotically or lock content behind paid DLCs at launch. Splatoon has amiibos which unlock costumes but don't lock away any content. All the weapons you get from Amiibos are in-game, and all the single player missions are in-game.
Amiibo's don't cost money now?
Having content that is already on the disc but locked behind a paywall is never a good thing.
Phat Michael
Banned
from what ive seen i get a similar fun vibe of Plants vs Zombies garden warfare to this. I thought P V Z was excellent as well.
So because I can purchase a hat on Dota 2 - that's something I should be pissed off at Valve for?
they are part of the reason I sold my wii u. I don't want to buy toys for dlc.
That's a free game. Splatoon is not. You bought the game but are unable to access its content without paying extra.
I don't think I express what I meant correctly. The people who are okay with the dlc plan maybe under a million people (I personally think this game will sell over a million copies, but not before August although I hope it does) while the people who are okay with Evolve's DLC plan was over 2 million (the amount of copies that were sold). Both games did receive backlash, but for good reasons. It seems to me that a lot of people complain about Nintendo fans giving them a free pass is actually a few millions of fans that actually do, but those few millions are vocal of why they give them a free pass. It may not be as bad as Evolve, but that might be due to the fact that their DLC will be free as opposed to being charged.
I don't want to derail this thread any further so if you want to discuss why you feel differently, I would rather you PM me so this thread can stay on topic.
Maneauleau
Member
iKhayal18 said:
What does that even mean? Is there a kind of Spanish pun I am missing here? ^^
Excuse me but are we going to list all the reviews of any person on the internet ? I though OT was forthe this and that we make review threads from serious journalism websites only.
Herb Alpert
Banned
Yeah. Amiibos should be optionnal, Nintendo shouldn't put a gun in your face to force you into buying dozens of these. I sold my WiiU too and plans to go back in time to stop the young myself from buying a NES and fall in this mean trap.
Seriously.
I have 1 amiibo and don't plan to buy others. And I can still enjoy the games.
His whole rant about the amiibo weapons is just completely wrong, and there are quite a few other questionable points. And it is not in depth at all. Anyone reading the Splatoon spoiler thread on GAF could do a more accurate summary.
Personally, I really doubt that he has the game (both regarding the footage quality and how he say things), but I don't have the time to look for youtube footage matches. There are thousands of youtube clips of the prerelease version, and anyone could do what he has done.
So you can use the other two weapon classes in SP without amiibos?
Seriously guys, it's the same song and dance every single bloody time. One ' simply decent' review isn't going to matter much in the grand scheme of things. I can most definitely say that people would be reacting differently if he gave it a 9 or something.
Vampirolol
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The reason is quite simple, those companies and games are more mainstream and famous, they involve more press and people than Nintendo, wich in the end fascinates only the niche of a niche.
I bought the game - unable to access Samurai Outfit, Mecha Outfit and School Girl Outfit.
This according to you should cause some sort of outrage?
He may very well have a review copy, but exactly this. This review is not a good review. Anyone could have made these criticisms and praises without even having played the testfire or any demo. For the type of review he did, you can not just throw out a number at the end and have it mean something (which numbers in any review are pretty arbitrary anyway).
First off, I've never said that people should be outraged. I was merely comparing the difference in severity of the backlash Nintendo and other companies get.
Also,60 extra challenges are disc-locked-content as well. I mean come on, locking challenges behind Amiibos?
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