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[EmptySpace]

Well, technically they kinda did. Street Fighter 5 WAS going to happen at some point and it would have been multiplat. Sony "funding it to speed up development" is clever PR spin for a moneyhat.

clever spin?

you're talking as if there is an xbone version out there that was halted because sony stepped in.

sf5 was going to happen, sony stepped in and said, "make the game now" and that they did.

tomb raider is obviously a whole different scenario. pretty sure there is a ps4 version running right now and they're delaying that version to make way for the xbone holiday megaton pr they had at gamescom.

"oh but they're both bought!"

you're trying to simplify the situation. was bayonetta 2 then bought the same way tr was bought?

 

[Mihos]

I would have bought SF5 on PS4 anyway. But I would have bought Bayonetta on XBone. I would play most JRPGs on WiiU if I could.

It is rare that exclusives match up on the platform I want. At least PC has so many alternative ways of how you play that I can make it work how I want..

 

[HardRojo]

Well, technically they kinda did. Street Fighter 5 WAS going to happen at some point and it would have been multiplat. Sony "funding it to speed up development" is clever PR spin for a moneyhat.

If a moneyhat allows a game to be released years in advance and brings more money to the competitive scene then I'm fine with it. RotTR moneyhat simply delayed the release in another platform.

 

[Justinh]

Even though I have trust issues with Capcom concerning exclusives, I find no reason that anyone should believe that it'll be coming in any form to Xbox One now

Spoiler

(When I say "now," I mean half-a-year ago).

I'm stoked for this game, though. I don't have a PS4 yet (laugh), but I'll definitely have one before this game comes out. I bought a PS4 VLX already so I'm just waiting

Spoiler

for a whole new fighting game to suck in!

 

[Freedom = $1.05]

Do you use on of the rare original Sega USB Saturn pads or do you use an adapter?

I have 2 Saturn USB pads: one that is black all over and another that is white with the colored buttons.

edit: eww, just noticed that ebay is loaded with a shitton of bootleg saturn usb pads. Mine are from back in the day, they predate the release of SFIV. They're legit sega pads.

I don't know how rare they are but they're terrific!

Also, SFII was on like a thousand platforms. I believe the issue with them not bringing it to the genesis initially was due to the lack of a 6 button controller and there being a bit more work needed to get up and running. Sega did a lot of the programming on the Special Championship Edition and even though the game looked better on the SNES many preferred the controller on the genesis and the extra turbo modes in the game.

I played my copy of SCE to death, fucking loved that game.

 

[c0de]

If a moneyhat allows a game to be released years in advance and brings more money to the competitive scene then I'm fine with it. RotTR moneyhat simply delayed the release in another platform.

What if you buy a game/franchise for several years and it's only allowed to be released on one console and PC in this time?

 

[Shaqiri1987]

So this just means Street Fighter 6 will be out very soon.

 

[Noshino]

Well, technically they kinda did. Street Fighter 5 WAS going to happen at some point and it would have been multiplat. Sony "funding it to speed up development" is clever PR spin for a moneyhat.

Tell me more about the future

When was Street Fighter exclusive? TR was bought but SF?

SF3, the first 2, were console exclusive to DC

But in general, updates/revisions (or whatever you want to call them) have been console exclusive in the past since SF2. SF2 had versions that were console exclusive to either Nintendo or Sega

 

[Whitman's Ghost]

Isn't the PlayStation controller better for fighters than the Xbox controller anyway? I know sticks are considered definitive for most hardcore fighting game enthusiasts, but I mean between traditional game controllers. Something about better D-Pad I think?

Dude, you all better just get a stick. I have to tape my hand on the DS4 that damn thing is SHARP. I prefer the PS3 DPAD. I love the PS4 DPAD for platformers and stuff but man does it tire my thumb out with constant movements across its edges.

 

[twobear]

kind of a shame really, sony paying to keep games away from the competition. i guess that's what happens when they get a whiff of success!

 

[BronsonLee]

kind of a shame really, sony paying to keep games away from the competition. i guess that's what happens when they get a whiff of success!

...Both of them pay for exclusives. Microsoft literally did this for Dead Rising 3!

 

[Night Angel]

What if you buy a game/franchise for several years and it's only allowed to be released on one console and PC in this time?

Then buy a new platform. Wow, that was easy.

 

[Percy]

So this just means Street Fighter 6 will be out very soon.

Sure, just as every mainline SF game has come out soon after it's predeces... oh :/

Based on the series release history, it's not unreasonable to believe SFVI wouldn't be out before this gen is done.

...Both of them pay for exclusives. Microsoft literally did this for Dead Rising 3!

And Titanfall.

 

[Mihos]

What if you buy a game/franchise for several years and it's only allowed to be released on one console and PC in this time?

Same thing I did with Final Fantasy... I bought a playstation.

 

[DNAbro]

So this just means Street Fighter 6 will be out very soon.

I feel like i should compile all the junior posts in this thread cause some of you guys are great.

 

[Collateral22]

So this just means Street Fighter 6 will be out very soon.

If you consider 2022 to be very soon then yeah.

 

[c0de]

I have 2 Saturn USB pads: one that is black all over and another that is white with the colored buttons.

edit: eww, just noticed that ebay is loaded with a shitton of bootleg saturn usb pads. Mine are from back in the day, they predate the release of SFIV. They're legit sega pads.

I don't know how rare they are but they're terrific!

Also, SFII was on like a thousand platforms. I believe the issue with them not bringing it to the genesis initially was due to the lack of a 6 button controller and there being a bit more work needed to get up and running. Sega did a lot of the programming on the Special Championship Edition and even though the game looked better on the SNES many preferred the controller on the genesis and the extra turbo modes in the game.

I played my copy of SCE to death, fucking loved that game.

I currently have on of these:

but I am not too happy about it. It's ok but I guess I will soon buy an adaptor and try to get a Saturn pad.
And yes, I played SCE a lot on my genesis and really loved the 6-button-pad back then.

 

[Kain]

I still don't see how hard it is to understand that Sony is financing the game, end of the story. And you will be able to play it on PC, too, I'm sure it won't demand a very powerful setup.

 

[SmokedMeat]

Wasn't Street Fighter 2 exclusive to SNES?

It was. Other editions went exclusive as well, but the original SF2 was released exclusively for SNES initially.

 

[MatrixMan.EXE]

kind of a shame really, sony paying to keep games away from the competition. i guess that's what happens when they get a whiff of success!

Is this a joke post?

 

[c0de]

Then buy a new platform. Wow, that was easy.

So from now on we can expect "Just buy the system" when we talk about paid exclusives and the thread is done after that one reply? Good.

 

[Ghost Slayer]

kind of a shame really, sony paying to keep games away from the competition. i guess that's what happens when they get a whiff of success!

just like our master moneyhat MS

 

[c0de]

Same thing I did with Final Fantasy... I bought a playstation.

By "you" I didn't mean you as a customer but a company.

 

[Freedom = $1.05]

I still don't see how hard it is to understand that Sony is financing the game, end of the story. And you will be able to play it on PC, too, I'm sure it won't demand a very powerful setup.

As someone who had to pick up Dead Rising 3 on the PC, I say get with the program. It's a multiplaform game, stop whining that it didn't come to your platform of choice and either get it on one of the platforms it's on or don't buy it at all and vote with your dollars.

 

[SmokedMeat]

kind of a shame really, sony paying to keep games away from the competition. i guess that's what happens when they get a whiff of success!

What was Dead Rising 3? Back when Microsoft launched the Bone, fans were patting them on the back for all of their "exclusives", while chiding Sony for a lack of them.

Now when Sony plays the same tactic, it's shameful.

 

[MatrixMan.EXE]

What was Dead Rising 3? Back when Microsoft launched the Bone, fans were patting them on the back for all of their "exclusives", while chiding Sony for a lack of them.

Now when Sony plays the same tactic, it's shameful.

It's a godelsmetric post. Check his posts from the initial leak thread. Refuses to believe Capcom isn't in any shape to fund expensive games despite the wealth of facts that prove otherwise.

No point trying to bring reason into the discussion.

 

[EdgeXL]

Kind of a shame because I don't want to plunk down the cheddar for two PS4 fight sticks for just this game and I am not sure if my Razer Atrox sticks will work on PC. I also hate playing tourney fighters with a stock control pad so I guess I won"t be playing this game.

I'm not going to bitch about it though. I am old enough to know that I do not always get my way.

 

[SgtCobra]

I'm SHOCKED.

Alright. If some version of SFV (SSFV, USFV etc) is announced for X1 before the end of 2018 I will choose an avater for you to use for a year. If it doesn't happen you can choose an avater for me use for a year.

Lets make the bet fair.

 

[HardRojo]

What if you buy a game/franchise for several years and it's only allowed to be released on one console and PC in this time?

Final Fantasy? I think people bought a PS1 and kept playing. Also, I was very clear that in this case Sony actually did more than just lock the game to their console. You are just trying to simplify this to "Platform holder pays to lock what would have been a multiplat release", which, to be honest, isn't the way to go about these moneyhats.

 

[Oemenia]

Sony paying for exclusives always seems to be a new thing for some people. Now just imagine if MS did the same and the amount of hate they would've got.

 

[BibiMaghoo]

I still don't see how hard it is to understand that Sony is financing the game, end of the story.

Because it essentially comes down to semantics, and those semantics are being argued as serious differentiators, when they are not.

Game 1) Isn't going to be made without a money hat to keep it on one console

Game 2) Isn't going to release on all consoles because of a money hat to keep it on one.

The result is the same. A company pays and gets the console rights to the game. Those arguing that "it wouldn't exist without moneyhats" and such, even if correct, should maybe understand it makes no difference at all. Money has been exchanged to keep it from competition platforms, when you boil it down to what it is. Neither of the examples above were done "for gamers". They are both for profit.

 

[c0de]

Final Fantasy? I think people bought a PS1 and kept playing.

No, I am talking about Tomb Raider which was bought by Sony in the 90's.

 

[hohoXD123]

kind of a shame really, sony paying to keep games away from the competition. i guess that's what happens when they get a whiff of success!

They're also paying to speed up development time, I can live with that. At least it's coming out on PC as well, you don't have to buy a PS4 to play it.

Because it essentially comes down to semantics, and those semantics are being argued as serious differentiators, when they are not.

Game 1) Isn't going to be made without a money hat to keep it on one console

Game 2) Isn't going to release on all consoles because of a money hat to keep it on one.

The result is the same. A company pays and gets the console rights to the game. Those arguing that "it wouldn't exist without moneyhats" and such, even if correct, should maybe understand it makes no difference at all. Money has been exchanged to keep it from competition platforms, when you boil it down to what it is. Neither of the examples above were done "for gamers". They are both for profit.

Almost everything ever done in the game industry is primarily done "for profit". There is a massive difference between those scenarios for the end user when considering the alternatives. If Game 1 wasn't moneyhatted, neither console A nor B owners would have been able to play it, whilst if Game 2 wasn't moneyhatted, both console A and B owners would have been able to play it.

 

[SteveO1683]

This is a real partnership. At least for a while.

 

[Nephtes]

...Both of them pay for exclusives. Microsoft literally did this for Dead Rising 3!

Yes, but Dead Rising's notoriety vs. Street Fighter?

Street Fighter has the larger name recognition and fan base, so of course it's going to leave more people saltly...

(especially considering the Xbox was the defacto console of choice for SFIV... Many players may have purchased the Xbox One with that in mind... At least they got Killer Instinct out of it...)

 

[Andrew Evenstar]

Sweet !

 

[OsirisBlack]

It's okay when Sony does it.

Its not ok when anyone does it I fear we will see quite a bit of this bullshit at E3 this year.

Yes, until Sony stepped in, found a porting studio and had them put it in PS4. But we all know how that turned out.

Took two patches but the game is very good now.

Having SFV X1 is worse-off for the community. MS refusing to support cross-play will fragment the playerbase.

Same reason FFXIV is not on XB1 MS really needs to lighten up on this stance, I definitely think their position in not allowing cross play will be detrimental to them.

I am not a fighting fan, but this is just sad.

Best thing to do is just accept it and move on. We could get into the blame game, but fact of the matter is that all of the companies do this stuff, so it is not fair to demonize Sony alone if you are not going to blame everyone else. They are just doing deals they think they need to stay ahead....

I guess if anyone we should blame Capcom for making the deal since it is there franchise, and they are alienating a big portion of their fan base by making it exclusive.

Either way though, it just sucks :/

Thanks, Capcom. Lost sales aplenty.

Fighting game fans will get SFV, if it was released as a Wii U exclusive it would still sell.

 

[Percy]

Sony paying for exclusives always seems to be a new thing for some people. Now just imagine if MS did the same and the amount of hate they would've got.

Understandably more, seeing as more people would be pissed off by that due to the Microsoft platform being dramatically less popular.

That said, it's not exactly like this thread (And SFV's 'exclusivity' in general) has seen any shortage of salt from MS fans either.

Yes, but Dead Rising's notoriety vs. Street Fighter?

Street Fighter has the larger name recognition and fan base, so of course it's going to leave more people saltly...

(especially considering the Xbox was the defacto console of choice for SFIV... Many players may have purchased the Xbox One with that in mind... At least they got Killer Instinct out of it...)

Awful lot of 360 gamers ped to PS4 this gen also, so it could well have worked out fine in that regard for more people than it pissed off ultimately.

 

[BibiMaghoo]

Almost everything ever done in the game industry is primarily done "for profit". There is a massive difference between those scenarios for the end user when considering the alternatives. If Game 1 wasn't moneyhatted, neither console A nor B owners would have been able to play it, whilst if Game 2 wasn't moneyhatted, both console A and B owners would have been able to play it.

For which end user? In both cases someone doesn't get to play the game because it was paid for.

That assumes the future of that game is determined by one approach. It is not. If it were, games like LA Noire would never have been released at all. It's nice that it's a narrative that aims to appease, but it's not a certainty.

 

[c0de]

Fighting game fans will get SFV, if it was released as a Wii U exclusive it would still sell.

I think nobody argues that SFV would even sell on Wii U. some would even buy the system for it. But how many? What is the audience? The pro players that will buy the game on whatever system, even with the system, or do you also want to make the game be playable to as broad an audience as it can get?

 

[BronsonLee]

Yes, but Dead Rising's notoriety vs. Street Fighter?

Street Fighter has the larger name recognition and fan base, so of course it's going to leave more people saltly...

(especially considering the Xbox was the defacto console of choice for SFIV... Many players may have purchased the Xbox One with that in mind... At least they got Killer Instinct out of it...)

Capcom wanted crossplay. Microsoft never does that, no exceptions. Even with FFXIV.

Street Fighter is a platform to them. Sony was willing to play ball, end of.

And the costs of both would likely be a lot either way.

 

[myharlequin]

better to have Dead Rising than StreetFigther, It is a way to see it.. I hope MS invest even more in Killer Instinct and release the season 3 right the day SFV with a ton of markething xD

 

[FunnyBunny]

So much saltiness.

I understand Xbox One owners being disappointed that SFV is a PS4 exclusive, and I understand the frustration of any console owner missing out on third party exclusives. We love games and want to play them. But there's an over-the-top sense of entitlement here.

Every generation has had platform exclusives, whether it was the SuperNES and Genesis, PS and Saturn, PS2 and Xbox, or PS3 and Xbox 360. This is not a new trend. In fact, there are far fewer exclusives than ever.

I can't fault a company—whether it's Capcom, Eidos, or anybody else—for accepting money that will help get the game made even if it means keeping it off one platform. Just because I bought a PS4 I'm not entitled to any game released this gen.

 

[hohoXD123]

For which end user? In both cases someone doesn't get to play the game because it was paid for.

That assumes the future of that game is determined by one approach. It is not. If it were, games like LA Noire would never have been released at all. It's nice that it's a narrative that aims to appease, but it's not a certainty.

No, in one case someone gets to play because it was paid for while the other person wouldn't have been able to play it anyway whether it was paid for or not, in the other case one person gets to play the game they would have been able to play anyway while the other person doesn't because it was paid for. Don't see how this is just an argument of semantics.

 

[Nephtes]

Capcom wanted crossplay. Microsoft never does that, no exceptions. Even with FFXIV.

Street Fighter is a platform to them. Sony was willing to play ball, end of.

And the costs of both would likely be a lot either way.

I feel like your comment had exactly nothing to do with my post that you quoted...

That said, don't look at me, I'm simply providing explanation as to why people are more upset about this than Dead Rising.

I agree with Sony's business decision to wrap up SFV... Even though I wish it was coming to Xbox because well I just like my Xbox better.

SFV will get plenty of play on my PS4 though as have other PS4 exclusives. I personally think everyone should just buy all the consoles... It's very cheap to do so this generation compared to last and then you don't have to be salty about anything Tomb Raider or Street Fighter.

That said, I really don't think the business deal had anything to do with cross platform play.

 

[Jigorath]

I hope MS invest even more in Killer Instinct and release the season 3 right the day SFV with a ton of markething xD

That would be like releasing a new Killzone on the same day as Halo. If you want to send your game out to die, go ahead.

 

[The Mad Draklor]

better to have Dead Rising than StreetFigther, It is a way to see it.. I hope MS invest even more in Killer Instinct and release the season 3 right the day SFV with a ton of markething xD

I really do not understand this tit-for-tat mentality...

 

[BibiMaghoo]

No, in one case someone gets to play because it was paid for while the other person wouldn't have been able to play it anyway whether it was paid for or not, in the other case one person gets to play the game they would have been able to play anyway while the other person doesn't because it was paid for. Don't see how this is just an argument of semantics.

As I said in the post you quoted, your position is based upon that game never, ever being made at all in the future, by any other means. That is not a good bet unless crystal balls are your thing. Especially when it comes to big franchises.

 

[Ray Down]

I really do not understand this tit-for-tat mentality...

Hes fighting for the mighty green.

 

[Night Angel]

As I said in the post you quoted, your position is based upon that game never, ever being made at all in the future, by any other means. That is not a good bet unless crystal balls are your thing. Especially when it comes to big franchises.

The fact that you're trying so hard to make the situations the same may indicate that they're not the same, because if they were the same it would be obvious and require no explanation.