Infernostew
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MS doesn't want it's players to be 2nd class citizens anyway.
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Capcom representative : Street Fighter V would never ship on Xbox One
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MS doesn't want it's players to be 2nd class citizens anyway.
NoctisVsStar
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While you're argument is sound, Sony is not obligated to appease to fans that are on the otherside of the pond.
And option 2 suits the most people are you blind or something.
Yes, there were multiple times where Ono said the opposite. So if you think he was bullshitting back then, why would you believe that interview now.
Kssio_Aug
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Or, he could just wait 2 years to get the game, while spent almost 600 dollars (an avarage brazilian price) in more important things for his tastes.
Your posts talk about doing the best for "the majority". Your words. The opposite of "majority" is "minority" therefore it could logically be construed, you don't want to help or suit minorities.
MatrixMan.EXE
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Because its godelsmettric, and the only time I see him pop up in Street Fighter 5 threads is to make passive aggressive drive by posts about Sony and the PS4. So strange.
Kssio_Aug
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I agree with you on that! But that's why I'm saying that Sony has not done the "righteous" thing! They acted like that with the same sentiment as MS did with Tomb Raider... they just want to guarantee a bigger place in the market, doesnt matter the cost. That wasn't for you, or for me, or for any other players, it was only for themselves, as any other corporation.
What I'm saying is, SFV situation is no better then TR situation.
3rdamention
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It's almost as if people think this SFV deal isn't in a very will drafted, lawyer approved, and signed contract...
It's not like Sony and Capcom just decided on this after their reps met in an elevator, scribbled it on a business card, and they can just change the deal or do whatever they want..
It's a Japanese Fighter, not an American Fighter like Killer Instinct or Mortal Kombat.
Will never happen.
Mass_Pincup
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No option #2 ensures that 1 group of people gets the game first, even though everyone should have got it at the same time.
Option #1 ensures that the game is being made more quickly. Yes, XB1 owners don't get to have it but Capcom might make a SF6 in 2017. Sony is footing the bill and helping with development while allowing the PC version to be made, Ono himself stated that he didn't had fund for SFV, they were no plans for porting USFIV even though everything is getting ported this gen. think it's easy to see how bad Capcom was doing and to see that it was a great outcome.
No it could not, you're just seeing what you want to see even though it's not there.
There's no need to be angry, it's just video games.
gundamkyoukai
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Also there was no guaranteed we were going to get SFV in 2018 on consoles , 3 years is a long time.
At the rate Japanese companies going SFV could be for mobile full of microtransactions .
At the rate Japanese companies going SFV could be for mobile full of microtransactions .
NoctisVsStar
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I believe Ono mentioned a FTP street fighter once.
gundamkyoukai
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It's different situation all together , there was no guaranteed that SFV would have been made for consoles .
Kssio_Aug
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Thats probably one of the most important Capcom franchises, I believe it is extremely likely it would happen anyway.
gundamkyoukai
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In what form ?
F2P ,mobile etc etc .
Either way it won't have beeen the SF we getting today cause important does not equal consoles for Japanese companies now.
yes i remember that also .
Exactly, people need to get the fuck over it. Exclusives have been happening since the beginning of time.
They are on PlayStation, have been since the PS1 days. It's just that certain people are butthurt over a game from a niche genre being exclusive on a platform in which most fighting game fans will be on anyway.
It's like Soul Calibur III all over again in which both GameCube & Original Xbox fans were angry that the game was a PS2 exclusive.
I would have said the same about sf5 being exclusive. ..basically never say never.
NoctisVsStar
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Just like when SE abandoned mainline FF games on Nintendo consoles.
Kssio_Aug
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It's not like everywhere in the world there's a similar economy with North America or Europe. There are places where a PS4 or a XB1 cost a lot of money giving the price conversion and the minimum wage... its actually a sacrifice to buy those platforms.
Anyway, I don't desagree completely with you on that. Like I said before, I'm just pointing out that what Sony did for SFV wasn't better then what Microsoft did for TR. And anyone trying to justify each situation is in reality just being protective in favour of their favorite platform.
And the same applies.
gundamkyoukai
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It's on PC also you know or is that to expensive ?
The situation is not the same , so people that trying to justify that they are not looking at things .
If MS fund it i would have said the same thing , one game need funding the other did not .
Japanese companies will always look after other Japanese companies & Japanese fans before American companies & American fans. That's how it will always work. Otherwise, Ono wouldn't have ran to Sony for the funding of this upcoming game.
Plus Final Fantasy is also a Japanese series, & both Nintendo & Sony are Japanese companies.
Sony looks longingly at Platinum games for their exclusive....
NoctisVsStar
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One of Capcom's most important franchises?
Really?
So, how important was Street Fighter to Capcom from 1999 to 2008?
Remember when Resident Evil games were Nintendo only and that guy was gonna cut off his own head if RE4 ever came to PS2? Yeah, Capcpom.
Granted PS2 vs GC sales is a much different thing than Xbone vs PS4, so I'm sure this has a lot more chance of actually staying exclusive for a long time, but Capcom gonna Capcom, if not on Xbone it will probably be on some other console eventually.
Granted PS2 vs GC sales is a much different thing than Xbone vs PS4, so I'm sure this has a lot more chance of actually staying exclusive for a long time, but Capcom gonna Capcom, if not on Xbone it will probably be on some other console eventually.
Kssio_Aug
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In 1999 to 2008, you're talking about a Capcom that had so much more then Street Fighter... that time they were doing Dino Crisis, Marvel vs. Capcom, Resident Evil, Breath of Fire, Mega Man, Onimusha and much more.
Couple of Vs. SNK games as well.
Honestly? I would trade that Capcom without SF for our current Capcom w/ SF any day of the week. The legit return of those franchises would be amazing. Sadly, we have this Capcom...
Is Sony footing the bill for future iterations of SFV too?
Kssio_Aug
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I believe it was said that SFV won't feature different iterations. Others may confirm it better though...
Capcom said that they are not going to do the super iterations for SFV. All the updates will be DLC.
No problem, since having a mid gaming pc is now a necessity for all hardcore gamers
MatrixMan.EXE
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Don't remind me, christ. They have the strongest collection of IP in the industry in my opinion. They even top Nintendo in that regard. How far they have fallen.
Hmmm, well, that's a step up then.
Is Sony footing the bill for those? I hope every planned update is spoke for in the contract. Wouldn't like to see them pull the plug after one update or something.
I agree, though while I would love to see them resurrected onto consoles, most of those franchises are too much of a risk because they're not exactly huge popular IP's.
Not only because of the development costs of making brand new games for consoles are even more costly than ever before since PS3 & 360 came by because of "HD graphics," but also because that Capcom's financial situation isn't exactly too great.
Kssio_Aug
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Yeah, good old times that won't come back! =(
That is the opposite of what happened last generation where Japanese companies saw Microsoft as the key to western sales.
Certain Japanese companies happen to make bad decisions on having their games exclusive on Xbox platforms, & in the end, they don't sell.
Look at 5pb with Chaos;Child, for example. It bombed greatly on Xbox One, & is now being ported over to PS3, PS4, & PS Vita.
And look what happened...most of their games got ported onto PS3 with extra content & later on, abandoned 360 while making their games PS3 exclusive.
Even companies like Namco-Bandai woke up & realized that most of the audience for the "Tales of" series were on PlayStation consoles after seeing huge sales for the PS3 version of "Tales of Vesperia."
StrongBlackVine
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Are people seriously trying to say they would rather have waited a couple of years to see how the next Street Fighter would have turned out without Sony's assistance?
fallingdove
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Fuck this noise.
How is it so difficult to see that Microsoft paid to take Tomb Raider away from Playstation owners for a period of time. This benefits no one. Xbox One owners were always going to get the game anyway, and instead of investing in actual benefits like exclusive games or hell, even exclusive content, they invested in a temporary bullet point.
Sony funded the development of a game that may have never been developed at worst or could have been released years and years from now at best. This benefits Street Fighter fans and PS4 owners.
The difference here is night and day - the fact that so many people continue to compare these scenarios is laughable.
And before you say - well, you are just a playstation 4 fan - I own both platforms and have probably spent more time playing my Xbox One this generation.
Pathfinder
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I'm saying I would rather have waited for a chance for the game to appear on both consoles.
I'm not a fan of exclusivity.
If they're only getting a Xb1 this generation, it makes sense that they would be frustrated. I'm not sure why that seems so hard to believe.
Firelord Chargrilled
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Of coarse you don't becaus it's not on the console you own
StrongBlackVine
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Neither am I(for a game like this or TR), but this is the right move. It was beyond time for a new game and Ono wanted to make it now. There is no guarantee Capcom would have done this properly when they finally decided to fund it.
Pathfinder
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I own an Xbox One, a Wii U, and a PS4.
And I'm still not a fan of exclusivity.
Try again.
Firelord Chargrilled
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as much as I see you in threads that turn heavily negative towards sony I find that hard to believe.
Nor much of a Street Fighter fan. This is a much better move for the vast majority of players that will/have been sticking with the series than waiting to see what happens. Ask Marvel fans how that's going.
No, that's just the standard defensive response, but probably true. It's quite possible to own every console but still favor one. I would argue that most people favor one or the other.
Pathfinder
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I think you're just seeing what you want to see.
Go through my post history if you have any doubts.
fallingdove
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I totally get this.
If you are committed to only owning one console in a generation, and you are a street fighter fan, you are going to be disappointed.
But if you committed to only owning one console, you had to have expected that there would be some great exclusive games on other platforms that you would miss out on.
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