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Wired Morpheus Pre-E3 preview - mentions new Guerrilla game, Trackmania VR, Harmonix
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Those roller coaster demos are actually pretty terrible. They are good for shock value recording a reaction video for a 1st timer, but they are not how you'd like to actually play a game or something you'd enjoy experiencing over and over more than likely.
Krisprolls
Banned
It won't be more than $399 (maybe even $299), Sony is not crazy, they want this thing to sell very hard. They're going all in on VR because they think they can make a lot of money on the long run.
They will never price themselves out of the market. If that means losing money at first, they'll do it. I'd say the price will be around $299.
They will never price themselves out of the market. If that means losing money at first, they'll do it. I'd say the price will be around $299.
So you think Morpheus will be $199 before all the other stuff?
Also you are right, we should be talking about more than price. Sony has 20 games already prepped and ready. I wonder if Sony plans on launching a VR hub with Morpheus at launch.
Neuromancer
Member
What was it like? I hadn't heard anything about it.
That's how you can tell apart the people who played Heroes of Might & Magic from those who didn't.
Ha, good point! But HMM 3 was my last one and I'm old now.
lol
Neuromancer
Member
Wow you're bitter. Let's check back in with your post in a year or two, if you're not banned by then.
Biff
Member
Sorry GAF, hate to be the bearer of bad news (edit: speculation... I'm not an insider! ), but I think 90% of you will be very disappointed tonight.
There's no way Morpheus is coming out for less than $399. I'm not even sure if that will come with the camera and whatever Move peripheral they showcase.
This is a bleeding edge product meant for early adopters that has a monopoly on the console VR market.
I'm going to place my bet at $399 standalone, $499 bundle with camera, peripheral, and a game.
), but I think 90% of you will be very disappointed tonight.There's no way Morpheus is coming out for less than $399. I'm not even sure if that will come with the camera and whatever Move peripheral they showcase.
This is a bleeding edge product meant for early adopters that has a monopoly on the console VR market.
I'm going to place my bet at $399 standalone, $499 bundle with camera, peripheral, and a game.
Well, they're demoing 20 'things' at E3 - be they games or tech demos. By the sounds of it they have about 30 games on their radar at the moment - I presume that means 30 first and third party products that are more than just prototypes, but on the table as planned product in the early stages of Morpheus's life.
Black Republican
Member
$349.99 me thinks
Trogdor1123
Member
299 for me, then the peripherals, is the top end for me. It has to be worth it though in terms of content
Neuromancer
Member
Do you have any inside information you'd like to share with us? Otherwise everything you said is as speculative as anything else.
Console gamers won't pay more than $400 for a console that will last them 7 years.
PC gamers pay several hundred dollars every 6 months to keep up to date.
See what im getting at?
Sony need to accept this and price it accordingly.
Krisprolls
Banned
Anyways, good on Sony for pushing this properly. It's not gonna be any half-ass supported 'peripheral'. This is a proper expansion into a new medium and it's happening.
Yes, it's really cool, I can't wait to try VR. I hope it succeeds, both in PS4 and in PC space.
Biff
Member
100% speculative.
gamechanger87
Member
Stacey, I usually disagree with you across the board on most points, but you are correct here.
Unfortunately, I do not see them pricing it accordingly. They will likely price it with the market.
I do hope Sony is able to produce a good deal VR pack-in for the PS4. Something like 500 dollars. If they want it to be a succes, it needs to have a somewhat accessible price.
Yeah, it will. I think 200 and a 500 pack in would be acceptable. Not sure if that is feasable, but the masses wont buy a pheriphal for 300 or a 700 pack-in.
Yeah, it will. I think 200 and a 500 pack in would be acceptable. Not sure if that is feasable, but the masses wont buy a pheriphal for 300 or a 700 pack-in.
Krisprolls
Banned
No it won't because a lot of people (20 million) already have a PS4 so they don't have to buy it again.
Can you give examples? Because I'm pretty sure that the ones that are passionate about the VR tech and understand it enough are not the same expecting it to cost $199. I would say that rather the opposite is happening.
Sony's not going to lose money on this product. The price of VR is high, and it costs a good deal of money to deliver a quality experience.
Console gamers will have to either get over it or just be stuck on the outside looking in.
Krisprolls
Banned
Maybe they'll come later. PS Move worked pretty well for grabbing things in the London Heist Morpheus demo so it doesn't seem bad already.
Do you think Morpheus will have a hub that you go to when you put the headset on? Like a virtual store where you can buy and access those 30 games?
Cheat Code
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Morpheus will be did in the water on release if it's even slightly close to the PS4. Good luck convincing people that a magic helmet is worth the same as a full console.
Or they could take a chance and try to actually make VR count this gen, being the first to do so on consoles and carrying that success forward to next gen.
Trogdor1123
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Sorry GAF, hate to be the bearer of bad news (edit: speculation... I'm not an insider!
There's no way Morpheus is coming out for less than $399. I'm not even sure if that will come with the camera and whatever Move peripheral they showcase.
This is a bleeding edge product meant for early adopters that has a monopoly on the console VR market.
I'm going to place my bet at $399 standalone, $499 bundle with camera, peripheral, and a game.
I don't think it will be that high. They will have serious issues selling a peripheral thats cost as much or more than their hardware.
299 or bust
FunnyBunny
Member
I think you're right.
Sony is making a push into a new technology here. The Morpheus is more than a gaming peripheral; it's an effort for Sony to establish itself as a player in a field that could be very big moving forward.
Makes sense for games to be browsable and purchasable while the hmd is on. Maybe they'll just have another visual profile for the OS/store UI rather than an entirely separate thing, but we'll see.
googleplex
Member
YES! More Morpheus goodness.
Krisprolls
Banned
Yeah, I highly doubt it'll be more than $299 because components are not that expensive anymore and Sony has invested too much in VR to price itself out of the market.
They know price matters a lot, they saw it with PS3 and PS4. Plus, they're doing fine now, they can afford losing a bit of money to gain an advantage in this new medium.
It could even easily be as low as $249 actually.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
It's a VR visualizer for your music, sort of like the one that the Xbox 360 had on the dash only in 3D. You put on your VR headset (it was O. Rift at PAX), choose a song, and choose a "stage". The stage is a guided 3D tour of a trippy psychedelic landscape populated by fantastical shapes and patterns; I think of the two they had, one had a beach theme, one had a space theme. The stage vibrates and pulses according your musical beat. You can of course look around in every direction. The sense of 3D is pretty cool, but the graphics are as basic as you can get. The fidelity wasn't all that great in their working demo, the shimmering and jaggies nearly turned me off from the whole VR experience.
Completely on rails, the controller is only used to select stuff in the menu. The whole experience lasts the length of a song.
Not sure if this went up early or not...
http://www.wired.com/2015/06/sony-morpheus/
Screen from Impulse Gear tech demo, from former Zipper folks. Uses the Sharpshooter move peripheral. This isn't necessarily going to be a game, but will be behind closed doors as a demo of FPS in VR. The article goes into some detail about it.
I was just wondering how cool it would be to use Move peripherals (including the Gun and the Wheel) in a VR environment!
Krisprolls
Banned
They could easily do that. Camera and Move are pretty cheap now.
I dont know, but I dont think $200-250 for the headset alone is impossible at all.
It'll be cool if Sony built in a VR-specific 'home' area where you could access/buy/demo different sorts of things in a 3D space along with some social features and settings menus and whatnot.
Financially speaking they really aren't in a position where they can lose $100-$200+ per unit and potentially wipe out all the profits that PS4 has earned them thus far.
I could maybe imagine them pricing the headset low, and then gouging the shit out of people for all the accessories.
Console gamers are a more price conscious lot, that shouldn't be much of a surprise.
Right now there's not an existing market for most people to form a frame of reference against. When the rest of the competitors start announcing their official pricing, I'm sure things will fall into perspective for more people.
boredandlazy
Member
I really think you need 2 move controllers.
It all depends on how much Morpheus costs. I wouldn't be shocked if the headset alone gets announced for $499.
I'd be disappointed, but not shocked.