Callibretto
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Wired Morpheus Pre-E3 preview - mentions new Guerrilla game, Trackmania VR, Harmonix
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I thought I saw him steer a little...
SomedayTheFire
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You just go forward. Notice the car actually never moves sideways. It's just forward acceleration with the spins and bumps from the actual track.
lazer_bean
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Interesting article if you guys read it.
Has some info on a potential workaround for the 1st person on-foot problem. It's not ideal, and it's not necessarily proven yet, but it sounds like larger areas with no close frames of reference allow greater speeds without as much nausea feeling. Makes sense, but also sounds a bit limiting. And not sure what happens when you get other players/enemies around you that start providing a frame of reference(or maybe you just don't have close up enemies?).
Anyways, good on Sony for pushing this properly. It's not gonna be any half-ass supported 'peripheral'. This is a proper expansion into a new medium and it's happening.
Has some info on a potential workaround for the 1st person on-foot problem. It's not ideal, and it's not necessarily proven yet, but it sounds like larger areas with no close frames of reference allow greater speeds without as much nausea feeling. Makes sense, but also sounds a bit limiting. And not sure what happens when you get other players/enemies around you that start providing a frame of reference(or maybe you just don't have close up enemies?).
Anyways, good on Sony for pushing this properly. It's not gonna be any half-ass supported 'peripheral'. This is a proper expansion into a new medium and it's happening.
Unlikely IMO. During Paris games week maybe.
Whitman's Ghost
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Honestly do not even want this for 199. The tech would not be enough for me.
Whitman's Ghost
Banned
VR looks cool, but photos like this don't inspire much confidence.
I don't want more Kinect/Wii gimmicks.
There really isn't anything inherently bad about this.
Newtype-001
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Id buy if 200-250.
300 can f right off.
300 can f right off.
I wonder if this will be a renaissance for the rail shooter?
I'm pretty sure they'd know that having the Morpheus being more expensive than the PS4 would be a not starter, so imo $399 is kind of a ceiling.
then, at least for me, $399 for a device would be too expensive anyway (I know that some wheels are far more costly than that though), and the main market for console VR is probably more around $299 and hopefully at some time closer to $199.
then, at least for me, $399 for a device would be too expensive anyway (I know that some wheels are far more costly than that though), and the main market for console VR is probably more around $299 and hopefully at some time closer to $199.
Quoted for truth.
Oppo
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Yeah but Vive will probably be north of $500, easily $600 with controllers and Lighthouse.
"Several" could mean anywhere above $200.
It would be very smart to launch Morpheus between $249.99 and $499.99. Anything over $499.99 and the cost of entry to console VR becomes $1,000 (assuming the current PS4 price remains unchanged + cost of a VR game purchase). That's not a casual-friendly price, and if a chunk of Morpheus games are being made specifically for casuals then those titles won't do well.
If Morpheus comes in at less than $400 then Sony will lock up the VR market. Their competitors can't and don't want to compete on price, so it's really Sony's ball to drop. Very excited for their conference!
It would be very smart to launch Morpheus between $249.99 and $499.99. Anything over $499.99 and the cost of entry to console VR becomes $1,000 (assuming the current PS4 price remains unchanged + cost of a VR game purchase). That's not a casual-friendly price, and if a chunk of Morpheus games are being made specifically for casuals then those titles won't do well.
If Morpheus comes in at less than $400 then Sony will lock up the VR market. Their competitors can't and don't want to compete on price, so it's really Sony's ball to drop. Very excited for their conference!
Triggerhappytel
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They're not going to make mega-budget games require Morpheus, because that'll ruin their chances of being massive sellers at retail.
Not a Jellyfish
but I am a sheep
I am hoping for 249 - 299 USD but have a feeling we are going to see higher than that.
FunnyBunny
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Same here. And honestly, I don't want it to be lower than that.
I don't think the technology has reached the point where a sub $300 headset will deliver a quality experience. Much like those early (and janky) $200 tablets were rubbish, cheap VR solutions will likely be garbage.
An entire Oculus system (headset and PC) is a $1500 $2000 investment. If Sony can deliver an equivalent experience bundle for $700 $800 (PS4 and Morpheus) that is a GREAT deal.
That bears repeating; a robust, next-level VR experience in your home for less than $800.
Sign me up.
Night Angel
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Yeah, it does translate that way as long as you make everything up.
CitizenCope
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I'm guessing $299 and that's fine with me. I think $249 would be the sweet spot but I don't think they can do that.
jhmtehgamr20xx
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$599 Morpheus? FOH with that. Might just be skipping the consoles this gen and go PC after all. There's no way you can tell me they can't find some sort of solution to offer Morpheus for cheaper than that, especially if they want mainstream adaptation.
Lol yeah was my first thought too.
FunnyBunny
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I think you (and the many people who share your opinion) have unrealisticand unreasonableexpectations.
Ya know, I'm not sure how rail shooters work in VR. The fact that they take control away from you is usually a no-no, but I'm also not comfortable saying that it just wouldn't work.
EDIT: Actually, strike that. They work fine. Just remembered several examples.
I really hope that VR headsets get incorporated as an option in more traditional games. Something like FPS shooters and just being able to use the controller and have the ability to look around. I can even imagine a 3rd person game working rather well, where the camera behind the character has a free look to it using the headset, and everything else is traditional.
As for the price, I'm in up to $399.
As for the price, I'm in up to $399.
If they don't drop a price today I expect one at PSX.
The tech they are showing now is not enough for you?
Aces&Eights
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Yeah, I'm scared now.
Couple = 2
Few = 3-4
Several = 5-7
Ugh.
Couple = 2
Few = 3-4
Several = 5-7
Ugh.
ashecitism
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What if he's counting in the controllers and the camera? Not everyone with a PS4 has those.
Neuromancer
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Whoops, that can't have been cleared before hand.
Several is technically more than two but not many. Doesn't 5-7 = many? So several is more your 3-4 range?
There is just no way Morpheus is more than the price of a PS4. No way. They would kill VR in its tracks. Dead on fuckin arrival if it's more than a PS4.
I think that among non-native English speakers the difference between few and several is not that obvious. I mean, i was kind of confusing these before. But definitely it's not 2.
Neuromancer
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Don't knock it until you try it. Comparing it to Kinect or Wii is absurd.VR looks cool, but photos like this don't inspire much confidence.
I don't want more Kinect/Wii gimmicks.
lol it's not going to be $199, you have to add in the camera/Move controllers
I just think that's crazy. You are then saying Vive and Oculus have to be under $199 and that seems so unrealistic given the tech. I agree a low price would help mass market adoption. But sometimes things cost money. And mass market consumers are willing to pay above $199 for goods.
Neuromancer
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I hope so. Can you even imagine House of the Dead Overkill 2 in VR?
Not if you already have them.
Nikodemos
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That's how you can tell apart the people who played Heroes of Might & Magic from those who didn't.
I don't think there's as much need for this to sell like consoles must right out of the gate - a slower burn with sales is likely in any case because this is a brand new market to plow, so they can afford to push the price a little higher for the time being.
I think pricing it higher than the PS4 itself would be a mistake, but anything up to $399 is probably fair game.
Everybody seems to go nuts over those roller coaster VR demos. And what is a rail shooter, if not a roller coaster where you just point at things? It seems to be the most obvious type of game you could make in VR.
Trackmania in VR could be both awesome and terrifying.
As for price comment, he could not say anything else. It will not be less than $200 anyway.
They should 100% offer basic SKU for ~2 million PS4 owners purchased PS4 camera.
As for price comment, he could not say anything else. It will not be less than $200 anyway.
They should 100% offer basic SKU for ~2 million PS4 owners purchased PS4 camera.
Nah, $200 would be a damn solid price, especially compared to the competitors.