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Sony is officially helping with funding and development with Shenmue 3
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Uno Venova
Banned
YS Net is behind it.
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
Why does it matter?
I'll tell you why it matters.
People defended KS in the start because it put the power back in the Devs hands, not investors hands or publisher hands.
I remember all the talk back in the day about how this approach for games meant we'd get the true visions of the devs, not the market research driven approach a publisher would take.
That's all gone with shit like this. If in fact the KS is 1/10th the budget, who has final say on things? You don't know. Maybe it's Sony, maybe it's Yu who is given autonomy to use Sony's money how he see's fit.
KS used this way is pretty much a whale fishing excursion. Currently the Avg is $78.
Yes, people get something for that money. Yet the whole idea that you're funding something that wasn't getting funded is out the window.
Just call it a fucking pre-order then if that's what it is. That's mainly what KS has become.
Guerrillas in the Mist
Member
Eh, I wouldn't be so sure, what with MS trying to prove they like PC gaming again.
FinalStageBoss
Banned
Smh@ this thread, you're getting Shenmue 3! With a legitimate investor behind it! Nobody wanted to touch this shit with a 10ft pole and now it's getting made, cmon yall.
Onimusha78
Member
Have some of you lost your effing minds!? I am at a loss for words. The fuck is going on here? This is Shenmue 3 for Christ's sake.
Who cares how it got funded. I am getting my dream game after all these years. Stop fucking destroying the hype and good will. I can just see this mothballing and gaming websites reporting it spreading like misinformation fire storm. Please don't anyone pull your pledges. We need more backers to give this game the maximum funds possible.
Why would you hate this? Why do you want to take away my perfect game from me and other fans after the hell we have been through to finally get this to happen?
I am shaking in anger and tears are streaming down my face.I have lost all hope at some modern gamers today.
lol oh dear
You know what? That is pretty damn funny.
Have some of you lost your effing minds!? I am at a loss for words. The fuck is going on here? This is Shenmue 3 for Christ's sake.
Who cares how it got funded. I am getting my dream game after all these years. Stop fucking destroying the hype and good will. I can just see this mothballing and gaming websites reporting it spreading like misinformation fire storm. Please don't anyone pull your pledges. We need more backers to give this game the maximum funds possible.
Why would you hate this? Why do you want to take away my perfect game from me and other fans after the hell we have been through to finally get this to happen?
I am shaking in anger and tears are streaming down my face.I have lost all hope at some modern gamers today.
Don't worry, the people bitching about this are a small, vocal minority.
amstradcpc
Member
yeah, take care. Time we get out of here.
Cynical/conspiracy theorist/crazy me thinks this kickstarter was going to happen anyway. Someone at Sony got wind of it, approached the people doing it and said "Hey, announce it at our conference. You'll get a huge boost. Just ....let me fix this platform list for you" (Scribbles out Xbox One).
Same sort of arguments would be happening if MS did the same thing.
I guess I just see this from a practical angle. If Sony was indeed going to fund this no matter what, then people were always going to have a chance to change their pledge. If their support was dependent on the KS's success, then the reason for the KS was obvious.
In BOTH cases, through Kickstarter I'm getting the game for less (maybe half) what it would cost me for retail if Sony had just funded it from the beginning with no KS.
In either case, there's no victim, no scam. Better transparency in Case A? Sure, I guess. But that's about a 1/10 on the "is this a problem?" scale.
What an embarassing thread. It's fucking shenmue. It's actually being made and people are bitching and whining. Lmao this e3, this forum, what a wonderful day!!!!
And here we continue!
And here we continue!
Looking at some of the people bothered by this, I daresay it's mainly the 'Sony' part that's proving to be a bitter pill to swallow.
why should the thread be closed
I guess im going outside the point here but im legit surprised at some of the reactions from old members. this is a discussion forum, you're not supposed to shift it to your liking or to feed whatever's convenient to you or how you wanna feel. it's a fucking place on the internet with many people in it, you don't own it and no one should be here expecting circlejerk party
that's a ridiculous attitude to have with the internet in general
people complaining about "outrage culture" by saying "shut this down lets all be hyped and don't overthink anything" is the 'outrage culture' part of this. shit's ironic
I guess im going outside the point here but im legit surprised at some of the reactions from old members. this is a discussion forum, you're not supposed to shift it to your liking or to feed whatever's convenient to you or how you wanna feel. it's a fucking place on the internet with many people in it, you don't own it and no one should be here expecting circlejerk party
that's a ridiculous attitude to have with the internet in general
people complaining about "outrage culture" by saying "shut this down lets all be hyped and don't overthink anything" is the 'outrage culture' part of this. shit's ironic
I this is so dumb. A niche IP that has been dormant for 14 years?
How much money do you think Andrew House and Kaz Hirai would be willing to spend? 10¢ if they had any business sense.
Who is getting angry about this? Do they want a Shenmue game made for $2mil just as long as it's pure?
How much money do you think Andrew House and Kaz Hirai would be willing to spend? 10¢ if they had any business sense.
Who is getting angry about this? Do they want a Shenmue game made for $2mil just as long as it's pure?
Why do console exclusive exist? Is there any advantage in having them as hardware developers? Yes, they do and Sony is taking advantage of the fans' money to have a console exclusive while completely removing the risks that usually come with said kind of products. That's my argument, PC has nothing to do with it, not sure why you mentioned it.
I wonder if a twitter message can fund bills. I really should figure out how to do that because the salt would fund my bills for life.
OrangeYouGlad
Banned
I take issue with this statement. The noise around Shenmue has always been loud, but it's very telling that it wasn't funded prior to fans pledging their own money. It's a bit of a stretch to say Shenmue is some giant franchise that gamers everywhere are clamoring for. People are getting hung up on the amount of money being pledged, but fail to realize the money in the Kickstarter is coming from just under 35,000 people. We're in the era of games that need to clear hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of units sold.
It seems that if the goal hadn't been met than the parties involved (Ys Net, Sega & Sony) would not be moving forward with this. Maybe Sega wouldn't move forwards with this without that $2 million being there for them to allow their IP to be used.Yu Suzuki (Kickstarter) said:
Of course, they were always going to get $2 million in pledges and once they have the bankroll there, they'll be able to move forward with production.
Same goes for Bayonetta 2.
And if anything, that game exaclty shows why publishers stay away from these games and how kickstarter can help out to make fans vote with their wallet. Bayo 2 bombed and barely did anything to the WiiU's state. Shenmue 3 is by all means not a title Sony needs for the PS4 to be a success. Be happy that there was a means to realize the dreams of Shenmue fans.
I own a PS4 and was planning to play this on PC.
Maybe there are a few hurt XBO solo and WiiU solo owners in here, but this deflectionist bullshit is tiresome, and isn't contributing in the slightest.
Jinfash
needs 2 extra inches
This project will eventually have a publisher. Like many projects of its caliber. Assuming Sony taking publishing responsibilities, at least on the PS4 (digital/physical), is not a stretch.
Audioboxer
Member
Percent didn't.
But that 1 percent. It knew. It done it. We have... Shenmue 3. Thank you glorious 1%.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
STOP TALKING WITHOUT YOUR TINFOIL HAT ON!
;P I agree this is a very likely scenario.
This so much.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Taking my money back shit lol 
Amentallica
Unconfirmed Member
I'm trying to find a way to email Sony Playstation, but all I'm able to find is the complaint submission. I'm trying to suggest a kickstarter for Legend of Dragoon 2, damn it.
Kickstart (verb): provide the initial impetus to.
"if the project isn't kick-started soon, it's going to be dropped altogether"
This is literally what they did. They Kickstarted the project. The anger in this thread is largely due to people not understanding the purpose of Kickstarter at all.
"if the project isn't kick-started soon, it's going to be dropped altogether"
This is literally what they did. They Kickstarted the project. The anger in this thread is largely due to people not understanding the purpose of Kickstarter at all.
Onimusha78
Member
Hope this is still up in the morning. This has been fun
Guerrillas in the Mist
Member
Yeah, it's how business works. Suzuki gets much needed funding, and Sony gets a superb "win" over their competitor. I fail to see why people are getting worked up when its how the industry operates.
I own one already, this is not about the exclusivity in itself, that's pretty common in the industry, what bothers me is (partially or whatever you want to call it) funding one with people's money.
So much impotent rage... and yet the money counter on the Kickstarter just keeps on ticking up.
All is well with the world.
Wanna play a game of lucky hit?
I'll only speak for myself, but if (A huge IF) this thread somehow forces Suzuki-san/Sony to cancel Shenmune 3, then I don't think most people who were looking forward for it will ever forgive GAF
Only Kickstarter forces people to put their money where their mouth is when it comes to supporting something. Its why KS projects get attention and other anonymous online petitions get laughed at.
But it's not a fact.
The Cowboy
Member
I really think the cost part needs to be added, its just so crazy that we can get a game that has been requested for over a decade for only $29 and some people are complaining about it.
We can get Shenmue 3 for $29, TWENTY NICE DOLLARS!!!! - this is AWESOME.
Have some of you lost your effing minds!? I am at a loss for words. The fuck is going on here? This is Shenmue 3 for Christ's sake.
Who cares how it got funded. I am getting my dream game after all these years. Stop fucking destroying the hype and good will. I can just see this mothballing and gaming websites reporting it spreading like misinformation fire storm. Please don't anyone pull your pledges. We need more backers to give this game the maximum funds possible.
Why would you hate this? Why do you want to take away my perfect game from me and other fans after the hell we have been through to finally get this to happen?
I am shaking in anger and tears are streaming down my face.I have lost all hope at some modern gamers today.
Here, yeah I can sorta dig this. I mean we have people who would chug down dong like it was water in the dessert for a 2D tales of game so I'm really not bothered but they should have said so straight away in the ks instead of it coming out later.
And I can't blame people for not getting it. I mean not everyone can keep tabs on everything that has happened.
I think this is awesome, if Sony is willing to drop in a big bag of money after seeing interest is real, they should totally do that. This E3 had been like Christmas and my birthday all rolled up together. Even though I'm not heavily invested in Shenmue, I still went in at the $29 level because it just feels like something I want to be a part of.
After reading all the negativity in this thread, I may bump it up to $60.
After reading all the negativity in this thread, I may bump it up to $60.
Japanmanx3
Member
.Grimløck;168461778 said:
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THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
I think it's because of this whole "Sony is helping fund so why should I?" movement. It's a little out of hand imo
FreddieQuell
Member
I'm guessing at a retail price of >$30 because that is the price of a game of the quality I'm expecting for shenmue 3. Also, when has a kickstarter product been less expensive after its been funded?
And I would be more concerned about the franchise being treated properly if it had been kickstarted without any Sony involvement.
I apologize if I'm being dense, but what is the red flag signifying in this case?
How ironic would it be if somehow NEOGAF starts the chain of events leading to the cancellation of the game lol.
Uno Venova
Banned
Oh I know it isn't an actual big franchise like Uncharted, just in our world it's one of those talked about games.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
You are right, they only brought him on stage just cause reasons,
Come on man.
The game did not save the DC, and it did not save itself on the XBox or boost those sales much. History speaks volumes. (not saying it was a bad game, just in bad circumstances for it's time)
If Peter Moore didn't use it for his MSFT in, then we probably would have had a 3 already on the PS2 or 3.
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