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Where's a Saudi prince fan of Shenmue, when you need him?
It's way off base and it's hurting the campaign every time it's said aloud. He already said in a Famitsu interview that most of the funding would be coming from individual backers.
There you go, everyone. I was right. If we really want the game fully released together with added features that are beyond our expectation, the KS need to reach $15 million. $10 million is just to make it a true features openworld but $15 million is the true bullseye target that we need to reach.
Yu Suzuki seriously need to think of additional funding method via the use of Paypal after kickstarter because Bloodreign performance is not a performance we should be following, we have to look beyond that. So sadly, there are tons of stuff that needs to be done to really increase the funding and it starts will more Sony PR support (SONY need to improve their communication because it is inconsistent with what Yu Suzuki has been saying, especially as what Yu Suzuki said makes more sense), updated the Kickstarter page with better tiers information, reward offerings, order of layout and so on and forth, and we need more medias at this early stage to support the game in effort to get more funding by reminding everyone just how important Shenmue is. I'm not putting down the project by any means, I'm productively highlighting what needs to be done in order for us to get the REAL Shenmue III that we all want to see.
Q:
If a younger gamer wanted to get a feel for your body of work, which games would you suggest that they play? Do you have a favorite game that you've developed other than Shenmue?
A:
I had fun making all the games I worked on, and can't say one was better than another. Boring answer I know, but it really is true.
If a younger gamer wanted to get a feel for your body of work, which games would you suggest that they play? Do you have a favorite game that you've developed other than Shenmue?
A:
I had fun making all the games I worked on, and can't say one was better than another. Boring answer I know, but it really is true.
MrCunningham
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I can see 5 million happen... I could see it even creep over to 6 million on the final days. But 10 million is a tall order.
For one, they should kill the rumor that Sony is co-funding in any way they can.
It may be good publicity for Sony, but it's gonna hurt this real bad.
bananafactory
Banned
Yeah it has really slowed down. Something drastic needs to happen for it to hit 10.
guess we've all got to dig deep
or just hammer home that more tiers push more donations, and that a ps4 retail copy will boost things through the roof
Black Mantis
Member
Given that it'll never release for Xbox, doubt saying that will help in the slightest.
Yeah, I just can't see it myself, which saddens me. Hopefully it gets the funds by other means.
hodayathink
Member
Yeah, I've always read the Sony help as basically kicking them a little bit of money for being console exclusive, but nothing along the lines of them acting as an actual publisher of the game, which is the impression a lot of people seemed to get after the announcement.
If they want to hit 5+ million, they need to step it up on every regard; more Kickstarter updates, a much better social media presence and clarify a lot of shit that is going around like the Sony thing for example that douchebags use as a way to discredit the whole thing.
Wished they had the Bloodstained people on this.
Wished they had the Bloodstained people on this.
My guess is Sony is helping with Marketing, R&D and basic development support only. Nothing further until they see the game for themselves to which will give them the opportunity to think again about really backing the game. At least that is something for Microsoft did nothing.
Tricky I Shadow
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Looking back on it, I think making the initial goal only 2 million was a mistake......
They should have aimed higher. When it reached 2 million it really slowed down.
They should have aimed higher. When it reached 2 million it really slowed down.
Not really if the trend continue : http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-3/
Let's try to stay positive.
Insert Disk Two
Member
They really need that PS4 physical release.
Bucket-o-roadkill
Member
Shenmue-lite confirmed.. Fuck, getting a little worried about what exactly we're going to end up with here. If we hit way under 10 Mil, are we going to end up with something resembling like an on-rails shenmue?! :/
bananafactory
Banned
I think that's misleading since the funding was so heavily front loaded.
crazyrabbits
Banned
I'd still prefer on-rails Shenmue versus no Shenmue at all. I'm confident it will at least hit $6 mil by the end, if not higher. They're learning quick and pumping out constant updates.
It slowed down the moment they admitted the co-funding with Sony. A lot of fans are reporting the backlash of many websites about this (mainly in the backers comments).
The relation to Microsoft is not the point, the point is people who think this is some sort of a scam to get some extra free money from fans, and are convinced Sony can and will pony up the production cash, which in reality they won't.
What you see is what you get.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
6 million is possible. 10 won't happen. Only with Paypal after the campaign and lots of publicity during developement. Even then it's a huge number. Sony heeeelp
It would be amazing if they donated like $5 million. DO IT SONY!
It'll still be open world. Just with much less things to do.
Elfforkusu
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$6m is achievable at the current pace (probably), assuming a modest spike in the final days. $10m is a tall order. I don't want to say impossible, but it's going to be tough.
A paypal thing would clearly help.
The fictional story about Sony funding this in any serious capacity needs to die, it only hurts. Though there is a chance the negative could be turned into a positive, if there's more information on the kickstarter as people figure out that the Sony thing was bad journalism
, we could maybe get a second wave of contributions.
Question is, how to get the word out.
A paypal thing would clearly help.
The fictional story about Sony funding this in any serious capacity needs to die, it only hurts. Though there is a chance the negative could be turned into a positive, if there's more information on the kickstarter as people figure out that the Sony thing was bad journalism
a lie
Question is, how to get the word out.
Damn. 10 million huh. You know what would get serious money pooling in, you need someone high profile to tweet about Shenmue's kickstarter. Just some celebrity "been waiting forever for this. the dream is alive.
5m I can see being assured, and hit by mid month. Can't see 10 so much, I know things boost at the end, but e3 was ridiculous press. You would need like a.. miley cyrus tweet kind of thing to send it surging.
Alternatively, continued funding would get there eventually.
5m I can see being assured, and hit by mid month. Can't see 10 so much, I know things boost at the end, but e3 was ridiculous press. You would need like a.. miley cyrus tweet kind of thing to send it surging.
Alternatively, continued funding would get there eventually.
6 million is possible. 10 won't happen
Would be cool if Sony said they'd match people's pledges dollar for dollar. I'd even up my pledge if it meant I could effectively double it.
I'm not one of the people who gives a shit about them being tight-lipped about it -- I'd be pledging either way. But the more I know, the more I'd pledge.
If things do NOT change then I predict that the KS will stop at $5.5 million. If they get the information on the Kickstarter right and update everyone then the KS will stop at $7-8 million. If they work with SONY PR all during these days to get more funding then the KS will potentially stop at $16 million+. So, for now, it is more realistic to think of post-kickstarter support for the next 3 months (can't go longer as that will delay pre-production) as that will be very important.
So basically, as I said many times on this forum, we need to help by spreading the communication of the Shenmue III kickstarter further and remove the idea that the true goal has been reached.
So basically, as I said many times on this forum, we need to help by spreading the communication of the Shenmue III kickstarter further and remove the idea that the true goal has been reached.
It was trending toward something like $30 million on the first day. It's slowed down considerably, save for that mini boost with the jackets.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
This!
They should copy the Star Citizen model, and offer backers $10,000 space ships to buy.
Really though, something like 40% of the total funding in the Pillars of Eternity Kickstarter came from existing backers upgrading their pledge. They shouldn't see a backer as a stationary thing, but as a segment that should be targeted towards upgrading their pledge. That's where significant money will come from.
Really though, something like 40% of the total funding in the Pillars of Eternity Kickstarter came from existing backers upgrading their pledge. They shouldn't see a backer as a stationary thing, but as a segment that should be targeted towards upgrading their pledge. That's where significant money will come from.
MrCunningham
Member
Yup Kicktraq is unreliable for predictions. A few days ago it was showing a prediction of $44 million dollars, now its $18. The closer their predictions get to the final day, the more realistic they become.
It has still been still tracking really well for its first five days. Day six just started and it will probably bring in as much as day five. It could possibly even see a little boost because of this AMA. But it's hard to say if it will hold.
For comparison, here is Bloodstained:
Because of Bloodsatined's impressive use of social media and meta games (fan art on tumblr, etc), they managed to keep a high number of pledges daily with the worst day dropping to $32k.
Some upstarts called Awesome Japan.
marvelharvey
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Start a topic to counteract the one from earlier this week? GAF news spreads.
Bl@de
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I would upgrade my pledge to 60$ but I don't want an physical PC release. They should really contact Sony (or we should with spamming a 100 page thread about it on GAF
Maybe Ys is simply more concerned about developement right now) about a physical PS4 release or add something different that's interesting for those, who don't want physical PC editions.Would probably get locked, i think.
After all GAF isn't an advertisement spot for Kickstarters, necessarily.
This is making me worry if Sony will help Shenmue in the futur with the PR =_='
Q:
I love the music from Shenmue, if anything kept me thinking about Shenmue from time to time during these 10+ years it was the music. Was is your favorite piece from the soundtrack? Thank you for bringing Shenmue to our lives, I can't thank you enough.
A:
Of course I love both the Shenmue and Shenhua themes, and all of them really, but the one that really sticks with me is the Tomato Mart.
I love the music from Shenmue, if anything kept me thinking about Shenmue from time to time during these 10+ years it was the music. Was is your favorite piece from the soundtrack? Thank you for bringing Shenmue to our lives, I can't thank you enough.
A:
Of course I love both the Shenmue and Shenhua themes, and all of them really, but the one that really sticks with me is the Tomato Mart.
Disagree here. 2 million in 9 hours was really about people caring about videogames at its peak during E3. You would have to do 500k a day until the end, that would be gangbusters. I think the big Shenmue fans through in loads to start, and I think its at a point for casuals to contribute and this is the result.
Need more high tier, creative ideas and you can get the hardcore reinvesting. The e3 "Im not sure what Shenmue really is but Im excited and sure I'll fund it crowd" is hard to gain back. Mostly because it has a goal, its the underdog and people saw the fans passion on display and they want to say "we can make this a reality". Now its in existence, and the fans realize its a tremendous sum it needs. Continued donations is the way to go, I think the Shenmue fans would push money at in into the future.
I'll also say this, not to downplay the urgency, but I think Yu is saying 10m could be a "wow this is amazing and open" kind of thing. I don't think he means Shenmue III isn't going to be an open world.
I'd love another featurette video update, something to highlight his original ambitions with the series, maybe some plans teasers of where he was going to go in Shenmue 3 all these years, and video footage of them working on the Shenmue projects in the past.
Possibly some industry notables who were largely influenced by Shenmue (of which theres many, Heavy Rains director and such) would be another way to really get some traction, them stating they want to see him with all his assets at his disposal again, continue the journey.
nelsonroyale
Member
Sony needs to at least match the investment of the kickstarter...otherwise, pretty shitty way to take credit. I don't have a problem with this method, if Sony steps up to the plate. Shouldering at least half the risk would be the right thing to do...
Now we're getting somewhere!
Elfforkusu
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Fair point.
The quote from Famitsu about individual backers being the primary funding source is probably newsworthy on its own, and the $5m/$10m goal splits is another meaningful bit of information.
I second this idea. Call it "The truth about Shenmue III's funding" or "Who is really funding Shenmue III?"