publicpwnerer
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They call themselves...the "Patriots".
Jokes aside, it's pretty disheartening to see how people really feed off of (Get off on) cynicism and drama. The games press are like the peddlers of drama.
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Yu Suzuki: I expect individual backers to provide the majority of funds for Shenmue
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They call themselves...the "Patriots".
Jokes aside, it's pretty disheartening to see how people really feed off of (Get off on) cynicism and drama. The games press are like the peddlers of drama.
indigo-cyclops
Member
Revisionist history, I don't believe you. The long loading screens is a recent outrage people seem to have exacerbated it to insane degrees.
WTF? Of course they will care. Why the hell should Sony provide funding to a game that'll be going to a competing console? If they're providing some developments funds and the majority of marketing they will not want it to go to XB1. All those people will then play on PC or buy a PS4.
Sony may want to support the game, but they need to get something out of it as well. Sony isn't a charity. They're a business.
Love it or hate, this along w/ FFVII: R if Kagari is to be believed are big console exclusives for Sony.
It'll shut up those who still say PS4 has no games as well.
Theonik
Member
They need $10m in KS funds to make this a fully fleshed out open world game. This is starting to stretch beyond what was in the original games.
But that doesn't mean this is them making the game with $10m either, they will get additional undiscosed funding, but the only thing that is certain is what amount is required from KS to achieve whatever goals they have in their KS.
There is a lot of revisionist history regarding the Dreamcast from people trying to push down its death into some grim event in gaming history. I mean it was, but before SEGA pulled the plug I have not met a single person who owned a Dreamcast that was dissatisfied by the amount of games the console got. But then again it is to be expected. Dreamcast games were much cheaper than modern games and SEGA's genius in making the NAOMI and DC nearly identical meant that the DC was an arcade powerhouse as well.
I agree, it is on it's way to becoming one of the most embarassing spectacles I've witnessed in all my years of gaming right now.
indigo-cyclops
Member
Exactly, it was a fantastic experience to own one back then. It's a real shame that it had to die.
Posts like this will do more damage to the cause of Shenmue than these "haters" much more than you think. This "Us Vs. Them" metality is doing you zero favors if you actually want Shenmue. Why are you not angry at the messaging? "Haters" aren't the sole reason this is happening, horrible messaging that is all over the place caused misinformation to start rolling around
So calm down.
LifeBrandRobot
Member
I cannot believe the heat this game is getting for no reason at all. Its like a freaking Sony PUB FUND game, whats the big deal. Sony is paying for marketing and the PS4 port. You've got to be a real idiot or actively malicious if you think Sony is taking your Kickstarter money. I never played Shenmue 1 & 2 so I wasn't planning to back this and just buy it if it turns out good, but now I'm going to donate because I can't take this idiocy.
What are you basing this conspiracy theory on?
El_Cinefilo
Member
Again I don't really see the lack of information people are claiming about
They announced a Kickstarter for the game after every publisher turned them down, While Sony aren't just financing the game they are doing more than anyone else was willing to do:
I don't see what they aren't saying that people are getting upset about, while I've been told other kickstarters were questioned about additional funds from other sources Bloodstained, Yooka-Laylee Project Cars etc didn't get anywhere near as much negativity as this.
They announced a Kickstarter for the game after every publisher turned them down, While Sony aren't just financing the game they are doing more than anyone else was willing to do:
Suzuki says in Kickstarter video that Shenmue 3 will not happen if the Kickstarter fails
Suzuki says there are other backers but the majority of the budget is coming from Kickstarter backers
- Sony interviewed afterwards asked their involvement and say they are going to market game and help them port it to PS4
- Suzuki says $2m from Kickstarter is enough to just essentially do the story, $5m allows him to do more of what he wants to do and $10m would fund his full vision for the game.
I don't see what they aren't saying that people are getting upset about, while I've been told other kickstarters were questioned about additional funds from other sources Bloodstained, Yooka-Laylee Project Cars etc didn't get anywhere near as much negativity as this.
It's true
Polygon saw that it wasn't coming Xbox One and started spewing bullshit about "special funding" and "shady deals"
Disclaimer: Own none of the consoles, just want to see Shenmue saved and on the PC
Because of eye-rolling hyperbolic verbage like you yourself are using.
"Horrible messaging"
"mess"
"rubs me the wrong way."
Concerned trolling has caused you to see imaginary ghosts in an otherwise straight forward and typical Kickstarter campaign.
There are all imagined "concerns." The messaging isn't "horrible," you are merely being unrealistically suspicious for fuck-all reasons. The "concern" people are putting forth has ridiculous, flimsy logic behind it. The reason people donate on kickstarter is because they want a project to raise enough money for the product they are pitching to get made.
So why would it matter what other funds are being contributed beyond your mere $30 or whatever? It doesn't make a shit. If you care enough about a project to put money down to make it happen, you should be elated that someone else is also donating money to the cause you care about. It's ridiculous that someone would have problem with Sony hypothetically donating money to a project, but not the other 46,000 people who have done the exact same thing.
The people "concern" about this look pompous to me, trying to big-boy their $30 pledge with "Show me the receipts!" like they are wallstreet investors. It's like someone going to walmart and raising a stink, asking for proof that the folding table they are purchasing is worth the $15 they are being asked to spend, because of ethics.
Bl@de
Member
Oh please. Why do people even give a shit if Sony helps out? The messaging is alright. It's just the typical concerned people who are bringing console wars and some other bullshit into it. Those people seem to get a real hard on from hating on something even if they're not interested in it. Don't like Shenmue 3? Don't fund it, don't care about it, move along to the games you like. No problem. Vote with your wallet by ignoring it. But I don't get why people try to talk down on a campagin that is simply there to give fans a game they wanted for 14 years...
ShenmueNextGen
Neo Member
Understanding Sony's Role in Shenmue 3
PLEASE SHARE THIS CLICKBAIT-FREE AND TRUTHFUL ARTICLE EVERYWHERE YOU CAN!
Source: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/new...ved-in-marketing-and-production-for-Shenmue-3
«Many fans were confused after learning about Sony's direct involvement in Shenmue 3, but it's simpler than you may think.
Sony blew away the media and fans alike during their 2015 E3 showcase, especially when they brought developer Yu Suzuki on stage for the announcement that a Kickstarter had been created to bring fans the long anticipated title Shenmue 3.
Recently, it was revealed that Sony will be a partner in creating Shenmue 3, although there is no mention of this partnership on the Kickstarter page. Additionally, during the announcement at E3, VP of publisher & developer relations at PlayStation Adam Boyes appeared to say the opposite.
"Recently a developer told us that they were bringing back a fan favorite to Kickstarter for PC and PS4. Now, this is very much their project, but we wanted to celebrate their announcement on our stage. Since this has been a game that Playstation fans have been very, very, very vocal about."
However, during the Playstation E3 Experience livecast, Playstation's Director of third party production and developer relations Gio Corsi made Sony's involvement clear.
"We said the only way this is going to happen is if the fans speak up, and we thought Kickstarter was the perfect place to do this."
"Sony and Playstation is very much a partner in this game and it's going to be run through third party production, and we're going to help YS Net get the game done," Corsi continued. "And we're going to be partners on it the whole way."
While many seemed concerned over this omission, it appears that Sony's role is not as hands-on as people are assuming.
Engadget spoke with Sony Worldwide Studios head Shuhei Yoshida, who explained a bit further Sony's involvement. "It's a very exciting project and there are lots of PlayStation fans asking for it. But it's a Sega IP and of course Suzuki Yu-san is the creator. So somehow Suzuki-san was able to work out with Sega to allow them to Kickstart the project. And because we liked the project, our third-party relations team struck a deal to help Kickstart the campaign at the E3 conference. That's great PR."
Adam Boyes later stated "we're backing it as well... we're putting scratch in" but that the title will be self-published with Sony helping with the marketing. Had Sony made the decision to fully fund Shenmue 3, Boyes estimates that two years would have been dedicated solely to showing there is a demand for the game, then the process to secure funding would begin, then development would start. Also, in the case of full funding, Shenmue 3 would have been a first party title for Sony, which likely would have waded into murky water as far as licensing from Sega was concerned, as well as with Yu Suzuki's role in the development process.
Yu Suzuki hosted an AMA on Reddit Friday, and while he did not address any of the questions regarding his partnership with Sony (many questions went unanswered due to the popularity of the thread, not just ones regarding Sony), he did say "I will say this: if we reach the $5 mil mark, one of the things I really want to do with Shenmue 3 will become a reality. At $10 million, it will truly have the features of an open world."
Shibuya Productions President & CEO Cedric Biscay, Co-Producer for Shenmue 3, addressed Sony's involvement briefly in several tweets, including one that stated "Sony is providing various supports, including marketing and investment, to YSNet. However, SONY is just one of many backers of #Shenmue3." Further clarifying, Biscay wrote "SONY will not get any money from the KS, they will help to finance the PS4 version and will also help for advertisement."
In 2011, Suzuki told Destructoid that Shenmue, released in 1999, cost $47 million to make.
At the time of this posting, Shenmue 3 is the seventh most funded game Kickstarter of all time with nearly $3.5 million pledged and 26 days remaining.
1.The E3 reveal of Shenmue 3 begins at 46:40 of this video.
2.The Shenmue 3 interview begins at 2:44:06 on this video, with Corsi discussing Playstation's involvement at 2:49:28.»
Further clarification:
https://twitter.com/DanShoeHsu/status/612687243589742592
PLEASE SHARE THIS CLICKBAIT-FREE AND TRUTHFUL ARTICLE EVERYWHERE YOU CAN!
Source: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/new...ved-in-marketing-and-production-for-Shenmue-3
«Many fans were confused after learning about Sony's direct involvement in Shenmue 3, but it's simpler than you may think.
Sony blew away the media and fans alike during their 2015 E3 showcase, especially when they brought developer Yu Suzuki on stage for the announcement that a Kickstarter had been created to bring fans the long anticipated title Shenmue 3.
Recently, it was revealed that Sony will be a partner in creating Shenmue 3, although there is no mention of this partnership on the Kickstarter page. Additionally, during the announcement at E3, VP of publisher & developer relations at PlayStation Adam Boyes appeared to say the opposite.
"Recently a developer told us that they were bringing back a fan favorite to Kickstarter for PC and PS4. Now, this is very much their project, but we wanted to celebrate their announcement on our stage. Since this has been a game that Playstation fans have been very, very, very vocal about."
However, during the Playstation E3 Experience livecast, Playstation's Director of third party production and developer relations Gio Corsi made Sony's involvement clear.
"We said the only way this is going to happen is if the fans speak up, and we thought Kickstarter was the perfect place to do this."
"Sony and Playstation is very much a partner in this game and it's going to be run through third party production, and we're going to help YS Net get the game done," Corsi continued. "And we're going to be partners on it the whole way."
While many seemed concerned over this omission, it appears that Sony's role is not as hands-on as people are assuming.
Engadget spoke with Sony Worldwide Studios head Shuhei Yoshida, who explained a bit further Sony's involvement. "It's a very exciting project and there are lots of PlayStation fans asking for it. But it's a Sega IP and of course Suzuki Yu-san is the creator. So somehow Suzuki-san was able to work out with Sega to allow them to Kickstart the project. And because we liked the project, our third-party relations team struck a deal to help Kickstart the campaign at the E3 conference. That's great PR."
Adam Boyes later stated "we're backing it as well... we're putting scratch in" but that the title will be self-published with Sony helping with the marketing. Had Sony made the decision to fully fund Shenmue 3, Boyes estimates that two years would have been dedicated solely to showing there is a demand for the game, then the process to secure funding would begin, then development would start. Also, in the case of full funding, Shenmue 3 would have been a first party title for Sony, which likely would have waded into murky water as far as licensing from Sega was concerned, as well as with Yu Suzuki's role in the development process.
Yu Suzuki hosted an AMA on Reddit Friday, and while he did not address any of the questions regarding his partnership with Sony (many questions went unanswered due to the popularity of the thread, not just ones regarding Sony), he did say "I will say this: if we reach the $5 mil mark, one of the things I really want to do with Shenmue 3 will become a reality. At $10 million, it will truly have the features of an open world."
Shibuya Productions President & CEO Cedric Biscay, Co-Producer for Shenmue 3, addressed Sony's involvement briefly in several tweets, including one that stated "Sony is providing various supports, including marketing and investment, to YSNet. However, SONY is just one of many backers of #Shenmue3." Further clarifying, Biscay wrote "SONY will not get any money from the KS, they will help to finance the PS4 version and will also help for advertisement."
In 2011, Suzuki told Destructoid that Shenmue, released in 1999, cost $47 million to make.
At the time of this posting, Shenmue 3 is the seventh most funded game Kickstarter of all time with nearly $3.5 million pledged and 26 days remaining.
1.The E3 reveal of Shenmue 3 begins at 46:40 of this video.
2.The Shenmue 3 interview begins at 2:44:06 on this video, with Corsi discussing Playstation's involvement at 2:49:28.»
Further clarification:
https://twitter.com/DanShoeHsu/status/612687243589742592
Umm 2 of these things you have in quotation marks I didn't even say. And I never even brought up Sony, so yeah. I also donated myself, I just don't see how someone going around saying "oh yeah fuck all you people blah blah blah" is something good. I mean if you think that's cool that's fine, but please don't misrepresent what I said. And so many people have been confused about this whole thing because there has been mixed messages.
Please show me where I brought up Sony and console war stuff... And I'm not talking down to the campaign, I'm telling someone who is raging out to calm down. The person bringing console war stuff into this is the person I quoted, not me.
To this day, the Dreamcast is the console I own that I spent the most on. By that I mean that I have more games for this console than any other. Remarkable, when you realize it was on the market for no more than roughly 3 years. No console since then has given me as much fun as this one. And I will always remember the day it started for me : 9/9/99. =)
thiscoldblack
Unconfirmed Member
This is one sad thread.
Do you want shenmue 3? If so, pay money for it.
It's as confusing as that. I question how these people can put their pants on in the morning if this is so confusing to them.
I did, and I'm out of here. Have fun belittling people
HighResTomato
Member
Theonik
Member
Can we stop doing this. There is no need to insult people. It creates more bad will than solves anything. The point is made. Let's not make things worse.
It's like Krejlooc is worried that negativity or concerns are going to bring down the total kickstarter money, which ... may happen with some individuals but I don't think that's true for the total. [Although I guess I can't say for sure. People are broke generally, if there's an excuse to out, they may use it. But hopefully there's more people strongly attached to it than those who played it and are okay to leave it there at 2 - but maybe the people on the fence and who are new to it would be partly put off. Not if there's a recognition for the push though (making them really feel like they're a part of something special, and still needed), which we were going to need whether he came out and said it or not anyway].
People were so chill. It's hit 2mill! We're done here, Sony! etc. We knew there was something else going on and he'd really need more than that. Even if there was additional backing, 2mill kickstarter is not a good showing to get enough support elsewhere.
After the questions he came out and said what I was (sort of) hoping he would, he needs more. Now that's allowed people some clarity and to sense the pressure for more from individuals and backers.
I'm sure there's some X1 vs PS4 shit going on, but I'd like to think for most people discussing here it's all about shenmue 3.
People were so chill. It's hit 2mill! We're done here, Sony! etc. We knew there was something else going on and he'd really need more than that. Even if there was additional backing, 2mill kickstarter is not a good showing to get enough support elsewhere.
After the questions he came out and said what I was (sort of) hoping he would, he needs more. Now that's allowed people some clarity and to sense the pressure for more from individuals and backers.
I'm sure there's some X1 vs PS4 shit going on, but I'd like to think for most people discussing here it's all about shenmue 3.
Honestly, I wish the gaming press (love them or hate them) actually asked the other guys (MS and Nintendo in this instance) their thoughts on this situation. You've got each company's PR person that likes to say "we pay attention to our fans", so I'd like to see that put to the test. Shenmue has to have more than a few fans that own at least one of the big three's current consoles, right? Why can't each company (if they were interested in getting a version for their fan base) be asked point blank would they contribute so this game can get made the way it's supposed to be made? Either a yes or no would more than suffice.
The 10 million dollars being the estimated goal for a full experience, I wish that would have been said from the start. I've had this image in my head of what the next Shenmue would look like on one of the newer consoles, but it's obvious that this game might not even come close to what the creator wants it to be.
For some people, they only want Shenmue on their system so it can be used in list wars or to say their 'side' got the game. Looking at the kickstarter, I just don't see this getting to 10 million dollars in 26 days. On top of that, there is no guarantee that part 3 will be the end of the story. This is why I wish the man could just get the funding no matter which device people gamed on. Did I donate? I figured why not pitch in for a PC version since the hard copy would be available. I don't know if Ys can pull the money he needs from console owners that have no intentions of buying a PS4 (due to loyalty to whatever console maker, no genuine interest in Sony, or lack of interest in the game itself). I hate to say it, but maybe Shenmue just does not matter outside of 'list wars' and the dedicated fanbase (which isn't big enough to even garner a full budget blessing from any of the big 3 outright).
In the end, I want to see the game made because it means a lot to Yu and the fans. As a fan of the of 'old' Sega, it sucks to see the absolute disaster that the company has become.Looking at Suzuki's body of work, there should have been enough respect and good will there to give the man one more shot at realizing his vision for this series.
The 10 million dollars being the estimated goal for a full experience, I wish that would have been said from the start. I've had this image in my head of what the next Shenmue would look like on one of the newer consoles, but it's obvious that this game might not even come close to what the creator wants it to be.
For some people, they only want Shenmue on their system so it can be used in list wars or to say their 'side' got the game. Looking at the kickstarter, I just don't see this getting to 10 million dollars in 26 days. On top of that, there is no guarantee that part 3 will be the end of the story. This is why I wish the man could just get the funding no matter which device people gamed on. Did I donate? I figured why not pitch in for a PC version since the hard copy would be available. I don't know if Ys can pull the money he needs from console owners that have no intentions of buying a PS4 (due to loyalty to whatever console maker, no genuine interest in Sony, or lack of interest in the game itself). I hate to say it, but maybe Shenmue just does not matter outside of 'list wars' and the dedicated fanbase (which isn't big enough to even garner a full budget blessing from any of the big 3 outright).
In the end, I want to see the game made because it means a lot to Yu and the fans. As a fan of the of 'old' Sega, it sucks to see the absolute disaster that the company has become.Looking at Suzuki's body of work, there should have been enough respect and good will there to give the man one more shot at realizing his vision for this series.
NervousXtian
Thought Emoji Movie was good. Take that as you will.
Krejlooc has been tossing insults and belittling people the past week since this announcement.
He's also a pretty horrible person if you take in his quotes:
He's also a pretty horrible person if you take in his quotes:
The most heartbreaking part of all this? I have more funding than Yu Suzuki does at the moment.
Elfforkusu
Member
I like this post.
What they weren't saying is what level of support they were providing for this typically massive game.
Was it just a show from Sony (the stage for e3, benefits them, allows him to reach more backers since it's e3) or were they going to fund an amazing new shenmue if they saw the kickstarter reach 2 million, which is very similar to what they were saying and how they were presenting it.
They were happy to say nothing else to clarify because while they're doing more than others, it's still chump change for a proper shenmue and they know fans would pick up on that and they wouldn't benefit so much goodwill like they've been used to at recent e3s.
So they were happy to stay hush, having us fans think that a proper full shenmue was coming when the kickstarter reached the goal thanks to them.
Nope.
Way more backers are going to be needed to make this game reach its potential, the way we want/expect it to be. And that's thanks to some pressure and Yu's response clarifying things, which made Sony look bad but fuck em.
The shenmue experience is the full game.
I just read that as him being slightly modest, showing he's a big fan of shenmue 3. Although I can understand why people may raise an eyebrow, it's cancer pain vs shenmue ha, I wouldn't worry about it.
Though the u aint no fan stuff was being thrown about a bit loosley
Was it just a show from Sony (the stage for e3, benefits them, allows him to reach more backers since it's e3) or were they going to fund an amazing new shenmue if they saw the kickstarter reach 2 million, which is very similar to what they were saying and how they were presenting it.
They were happy to say nothing else to clarify because while they're doing more than others, it's still chump change for a proper shenmue and they know fans would pick up on that and they wouldn't benefit so much goodwill like they've been used to at recent e3s.
So they were happy to stay hush, having us fans think that a proper full shenmue was coming when the kickstarter reached the goal thanks to them.
Nope.
Way more backers are going to be needed to make this game reach its potential, the way we want/expect it to be. And that's thanks to some pressure and Yu's response clarifying things, which made Sony look bad but fuck em.
The shenmue experience is the full game.
I just read that as him being slightly modest, showing he's a big fan of shenmue 3. Although I can understand why people may raise an eyebrow, it's cancer pain vs shenmue ha, I wouldn't worry about it.
Though the u aint no fan stuff was being thrown about a bit loosley
Wasn't anything ridiculous about my post though.
Theonik
Member
He should take a break from these threads and calm down but
You should piss off with that nonsense.
Ninja Scooter
Member
I haven't been following this much and the back and forth is sort of confusing to keep up with, but if it's true that Suzuki needs $10 million to make the authentic Shenmue 3 that lives up to the previous games and is what people are wanting/expecting, shouldn't he have made the goal $10 million? I don't know about the rest but I have to admit I find that part alone a little disingenuous.
Ghost_Messiah
Member
Yeah I'm not getting that Krejlooc is a terrible person from the quotations you chose. Sounds like a pretty stand up guy with a good intentioned well meaning profession? He can defend Shenmue quite sternly at times but that's just the energy of being a hardcore Sega fan over the course of one's life. I know him quite well on other forums having spoken to him quite extensively and he's a pretty nice guy. Just gets very stern and argumentative sometimes when it comes to issues he cares about. I'm sure many here who are passionate about games can relate.
Theonik
Member
Setting the goal too high means this game doesn't exist at all if it doesn't hit that goal. Realistically this is not necessary, and most fans would be disappointed if that were to happen. The goal is set to a level where it allows them to deliver the game, anything they get beyond that helps expand the game's scope.
It would have definitely kept the pressure for donations up but imagine if it didn't reach $10 million and he + we would be stuck again.
Ninja Scooter
Member
But what game are they delivering? Does $2 million get you a visual novel? $ 5 million a glorified Telltale style game that tells the rest of the story without the old games' gameplay? Would that be what the fans want? All of the people that are pledging to a $2.5 million goal expecting it to deliver on what they played on Dreamcast and Xbox 10 years ago? I guess this is where more transparency would probably go a long way and that's not just a problem for this game but for a variety of kickstarters.
But it would also put an answer to that 10+ year old question of "Is there a real demand for a Shenmue 3?" Isn't that the whole point of Kickstarter and crowdfunding in the first place?
If we only reached $2 million, we'd still get an open world game but one that's only focused on a straightforward story-driven experience. $5 million gives us something Suzuki really wants to do, which I'm assuming is the "character perspective system." $10 million allows Suzuki to do everything he wants.
No, the point of the kickstarter is to get any kind of money in order to make the game, whether it ends up just be a straight-forward game that finishes the story, or one that's as groundbreaking as the original games.
He could have come out and said $10 million gets you the proper shenmue but if it didn't start off well people would be put off and he may get less in total...
About answering the question, fuck that
It's not fair anyway, it's been too long. We just want the game. But let's give it the chance to be amazing if we can.Ninja Scooter
Member
That would be the case if it were more clear what you are getting for $2.5 million. It doesn't seem all that clear to me, maybe I'm missing something. Scale and scope are the toughest things to communicate when you have nothing to show, I get that, but do we have any idea what a $2.5 million shenmue, or a $5 million shenmue would look like?
uncredited male
Member
I understand why they went with the lower goal so that they don't have to worry about not getting any kickstarter money if it didn't reach a higher goal.
With that said, I wish the 10 million target and what it represents was more prevalent from the initial announcment. I worry some might have heard about the 2 million funded and rumored publisher funds and figured mission accomplished and moved on.
However, I think if the kickstarter gets over 7 million it should be fairly possible to secure additional funding needed through other means. Assuming 10 million is all that is truly needed for Suzuki's complete vision.
With that said, I wish the 10 million target and what it represents was more prevalent from the initial announcment. I worry some might have heard about the 2 million funded and rumored publisher funds and figured mission accomplished and moved on.
However, I think if the kickstarter gets over 7 million it should be fairly possible to secure additional funding needed through other means. Assuming 10 million is all that is truly needed for Suzuki's complete vision.
He should act like a tool on video to get that bloodstained money
What exactly do you mean when you ask what it looks like? It seems pretty straightforward in the kickstarter milestone goals to me.
With just $2.5 million, you won't get new gameplay systems Suzuki came up with; Rapport system, Skill Tree system, Character perspective system, you'll also be missing the mini-games, quest and mission expansion of the Baisha village. With 5 million, you get those. With 2.5, you will only get story-focused missions.
Regarding the rapport and character perspective system, this is what Suzuki explained about those.
Q: Do you have any more details to share about the stretch goals? It's not clear to me what a "Rapport System" or "Character Perspective System" entails.
A: They are new systems, so naturally they need new names. The Rapport System will govern changes in Shenhua's actions depending on your conversations with or actions towards her. The "Character Perspective System" will highlight different characters personalities as they go through the story.
Theonik
Member
They made it clear that $2m was the minimum to deliver the game which would be focused on the story primarily. It would still be an open game but pretty sparse. Many Shenmue fans had been asking for continuations of the story in some form either as a visual novel as a manga, anything. Obviously these are not the desired goal the more money the KS gets the more possibilities open up. They have specified what gets added depending on the budget. Specifically there are two systems that YS really wants to add to the game that if they get to $5m they can do. Ultimately, I doubt most fans would rather get nothing at all which is the alternative so people are trying to drum support to get the best game they can.
Hibiki Kurosawa
Member
There's no way this thing is going to hit 10 million. Bloodstained's campaign was handle brilliantly, this one not so much.
The going around asking randoms for sailors' whereabouts video someone mentioned would work too.
Maybe not him doing it though, unless he's in costume and they get some emotional reactions.
He might want to mention what we get for $10 million...or at least work his way up to $7 million... hopefully he's on that now.
Maybe not him doing it though, unless he's in costume and they get some emotional reactions.
He might want to mention what we get for $10 million...or at least work his way up to $7 million... hopefully he's on that now.
ThatStupidLion
Member
Honestly im expecting Shenmue 3 to be a shorter digital only game (sans and special edition retail)
You continue to live up to your tag
Batt1eRatt1e
Neo Member
Just changed my pledge from $100 to $310. We need more exposure and some high profile people promoting it, and of course PayPal and more tiers.
We could do with some more mid-tier and lower range additional shenmue shit.
Decent but small perks a lot of people can afford and would want to do.
Has to seem like something actually additional and not subtracted to not foster any negativity, but small, simple stuff is fine and can be great. Don't forget to go into more detail about the PC retail version so people don't want to downgrade the pledge to go for other stuff. Another good reason to keep it small and simple but fun.
I'll take it to the other thread.
I don't necessarily want this thread to die out completely but perhaps not as often.
Decent but small perks a lot of people can afford and would want to do.
Has to seem like something actually additional and not subtracted to not foster any negativity, but small, simple stuff is fine and can be great. Don't forget to go into more detail about the PC retail version so people don't want to downgrade the pledge to go for other stuff. Another good reason to keep it small and simple but fun.
I'll take it to the other thread.
I don't necessarily want this thread to die out completely but perhaps not as often.