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[Game Guru]

To be fair, even without his current statements, signs have been pointing to Dragon Quest XI being on the PS4.

First, Yuji Horii has always said that mainline Dragon Quest games will appear on the most popular gaming platform at the time, and this generation that is undeniably the PlayStation 4 even if that isn't what Japan might want. Outside of Dragon Quest X which is an MMO, the mainline Dragon Quest games have all appeared on the most popular platform of their generation... the DS was indeed the most popular platform of its generation like the NES, SNES, PS1, and PS2 were. The PS4's only issue is that it's not selling well in Japan specifically, which is where Dragon Quest does best, but...

Second, Square Enix has stated that they want to revive home console gaming in Japan. This is because handhelds have an uncertain future. 3DS only having 50 million sales is an absolutely huge drop off compared to even the GBA and PSP, and let's not mention how poorly the Vita's doing. It is very possible that, because of mobile, handhelds may not have a future. However, home consoles obviously still have a future even without Japanese support given how well both PS4 and XB1 have sold so far. Unfortunately, if handhelds die off without home console gaming being revived in Japan, then Japan will literally end up with an all-mobile future, which is not to the benefit of anyone who isn't taking the majority of the mobile pie like GungHo and Mixi are. Now given Square Enix's goal of reviving home consoles in Japan, what better way is there for them to do that but a mainline Dragon Quest for consoles? That's Square Enix putting their A-Lister for Japan onto the exact market that Square Enix wants to revive in Japan. And if Square Enix does that, then it will be for the home console that is seeing the majority of Square Enix's Japanese support, which is the PS4.

Third, PS4 already got Dragon Quest spinoffs in Dragon Quest Heroes 1 & 2. Usually when Dragon Quest appears in spinoff form on a platform, that platform will get a mainline Dragon Quest game. Dragon Quest Heroes is Square Enix testing the market to see if there is an audience for Dragon Quest on the PS4, which is also why it is coming to the West.

Now, it is entirely possible that Dragon Quest XI is also on the PS3 and/or the Vita as well as the PS4, but if there is a PS3 or Vita version of Dragon Quest XI, it will be exclusively for the Japanese market, while the PS4 version will be the only version released in the West. However, Horii always wanting the most popular platform of the time for Dragon Quest, Square Enix wanting to revive the Japanese home console market, and the PS4 already getting Dragon Quest spinoffs seem to point towards a release of Dragon Quest XI for the PS4.

 

[Vena]

First, Yuji Horii has always said that mainline Dragon Quest games will appear on the most popular gaming platform at the time, and this generation that is undeniably the PlayStation 4 even if that isn't what Japan might want. Outside of Dragon Quest X which is an MMO, the mainline Dragon Quest games have all appeared on the most popular platform of their generation... the DS was indeed the most popular platform of its generation like the NES, SNES, PS1, and PS2 were. The PS4's only issue is that it's not selling well in Japan specifically, which is where Dragon Quest does best, but...

Minor correction: top console in Japan.

Not that that statement is true on any scale since DQ hasn't been console limited and, despite people regularly forgetting, the 3DS still exists and is still the largest platform in the world for now.

Third, PS4 already got Dragon Quest spinoffs in Dragon Quest Heroes 1 & 2. Usually when Dragon Quest appears in spinoff form on a platform, that platform will get a mainline Dragon Quest game. Dragon Quest Heroes is Square Enix testing the market to see if there is an audience for Dragon Quest on the PS4, which is also why it is coming to the West.

...Also these also exist on the 3DS, just not the same titles. lol

 

[Game Guru]

Minor correction: top console in Japan.

Not that that statement is true on any scale since DQ hasn't been console limited and, despite people regularly forgetting, the 3DS still exists and is still the largest platform in the world for now.

...Also these also exist on the 3DS, just not the same titles. lol

3DS is nearing its EOL at 50 million. PS4 got to 20 million in 1.5 years. We all know which system is going to do better than the other. Also, I don't believe Horii ever specified it had to be the top system in Japan. As for the titles on 3DS, all it had gotten is ports of VII, VIII and X; ports of Monster 1 & 2; a Slime game; and a Theatrhythm game. To be fair, you are correct that there are some systems that got spinoffs without getting an exclusive mainline game like the Game Boy, but they did generally get a port of a mainline game like the Game Boy got ports of Dragon Quest I-III, and well, 3DS does have ports of VII, VIII, and X.

Even disregarding my third point, the first and especially the second point are still valid, unless you have some evidence that Horii specified that it was the top console in Japan and not just the top console period.

 

[PumpkinSpice]

unless you have some evidence that Horii specified that it was the top console in Japan and not just the top console period.

80% of sales being in Japan even in the best case isn't enough evidence?

 

[LOCK]

It really should be on Wii U/PS3/PS4. I wouldn't be surprised with a streamed 3DS version either.

If they go exclusive then Wii U and PS4 are the only options since they are really pushing this generation. Both have their pros and cons.

Either way, I will buy it for whatever it comes out on.

 

[Shauni]

3DS is nearing its EOL at 50 million. PS4 got to 20 million in 1.5 years. We all know which system is going to do better than the other. Also, I don't believe Horii ever specified it had to be the top system in Japan. As for the titles on 3DS, all it had gotten is ports of VII, VIII and X; ports of Monster 1 & 2; a Slime game; and a Theatrhythm game. To be fair, you are correct that there are some systems that got spinoffs without getting an exclusive mainline game like the Game Boy, but they did generally get a port of a mainline game like the Game Boy got ports of Dragon Quest I-III, and well, 3DS does have ports of VII, VIII, and X.

Even disregarding my third point, the first and especially the second point are still valid, unless you have some evidence that Horii specified that it was the top console in Japan and not just the top console period.

I don't think you're really getting the "in Japan" part of what he's saying. Almost anymore else, the PS4 is lighting the world up, yes, but Japan has been a big exception to this, and it's been slow as the console market has kept dropping. DQ's main audience (like 90%, I would probably say) is in Japan, so that market will matter more for DQ than the worldwide audience.

 

[Harusame]

I'm actually quite glad that it is an offline game and on console. It would be great if it was featured on the PS4 and Wii U as I would like to make more use of my PS4, as I only have 3 games on it. I will definitely keep an eye on it's continued development.

 

[TreasureHunterG]

Dragon Quest for home consoles were always, traditionally, for the system with biggest installed base on Japan. So far, Wii U is the home console with biggest userbase in Japan. Unless they change this now, it won't be for PS4 until they manage to outsell Wii U.

 

[Occam]

How am I supposed to play Dragon Quest on the go with a console?

That's what y'all get for not buying more Vitas.
But if you did, there is always remote play (presuming this comes to PS4).

 

[KoopaTheCasual]

Dragon Quest for home consoles were always, traditionally, for the system with biggest installed base on Japan. So far, Wii U is the home console with biggest userbase in Japan. Unless they change this now, it won't be for PS4 until they manage to outsell Wii U.

That would be the PS3.

 

[clay_ghost]

That would be the PS3.

That why it's going to be multiple platform.

 

[Boss Mog]

Maybe it's been mentioned in the thread already, I don't know, I didn't read all the pages but the interview was updated with info stating that there will be a big DQ announcement in the July 13th Shonen Jump. Since this is in Japan I doubt it would have to do with DQ7 and DQ8 in the West. So it's either DQ11 related or another possibility according the the interview is a remake of a DQ for current gen (possibly DQ5). We'll find out in 9 days apparently.

http://www.ffring.com/news/Dragon-Quest-grosse-annonce-dans-Jump-db184513d9405.html

 

[KoopaTheCasual]

That why it's going to be multiple platform.

Yea I agree. I think it's silly that people think it would either be exclusive Wii U or PS4, with both consoles being really lackluster.

I'm now just curious to see the platforms picked.

 

[Vena]

Yea I agree. I think it's silly that people think it would either be exclusive Wii U or PS4, with both consoles being really lackluster.

I'm now just curious to see the platforms picked.

PS3/PS4 is a safe bet, and all but guaranteed when you factor everything in.

Two months ago I wouldn't have even entertained the thought of the WiiU but then Splatoon happened, and now by the time DQXI launches the WiiU may still be the largest current gen console in Japan. Which would be rather funny, in a comedic sort of way, what with SE trying to revive consoles at home and seemingly betting on the worse-for-wear dead horse (domestically). Obviously, though, SE is thinking globally.

 

[ghibli99]

All I need is "...and in English" to make the thread title meaningful to me. This generation has taught me to not hold my breath, but I will remain hopeful.

 

[iMerc]

3DS is nearing its EOL at 50 million. PS4 got to 20 million in 1.5 years. We all know which system is going to do better than the other. Also, I don't believe Horii ever specified it had to be the top system in Japan. As for the titles on 3DS, all it had gotten is ports of VII, VIII and X; ports of Monster 1 & 2; a Slime game; and a Theatrhythm game. To be fair, you are correct that there are some systems that got spinoffs without getting an exclusive mainline game like the Game Boy, but they did generally get a port of a mainline game like the Game Boy got ports of Dragon Quest I-III, and well, 3DS does have ports of VII, VIII, and X.

Even disregarding my third point, the first and especially the second point are still valid, unless you have some evidence that Horii specified that it was the top console in Japan and not just the top console period.

firstly you're comparing worldwide sales to geographic sales; where the DQ i.p is most affected by.
20 million in two years sounds great if you're head of PR, but the japanese user base difference between 3ds & ps4 is MORE telling, because that's where this franchise gains its primary sales from. SE could literally avoid releasing the game outside of japan and it would barely make a difference in its sales, so the whole "20 mill beginning vs. 50 mill saturation" is a moot point. it's irrelevant to DQ.

secondly, you're overtly disingenuous to the i.p's representation on the 3ds, where the franchise has a lot more exposure, released titles, & market penetration on, even comparing it to its presence on ps3+ps4+psp+ & psVita COMBINED.
it's interesting that when talking about the series exposure on 3ds you phrase it by saying it has "ONLY received", as if to (maybe not intentionally) downplay those games in order to make the two spin-off titles planned for ps4 sound more impressive.
i mean c'mon dude. 3 MAINLINE DQ titles; 2 ports & a remake, 2 monster games, a slime title, and a musical compilation title is somehow brushed aside for sake of a mere two spin-off titles, just because the latter are on a playstation system?

this makes no sense to me.
look, i actually do believe that DQ11 will be on ps4. Horii himself wants DQ to show up on home consoles again. the only valid option is ps4 imo. no doubt. horii has enormous influence/weight on where DQ titles show up.
but there is no logic behind ignoring the 3ds user base in japan, and absolutely no sense in downplaying the huge success the franchise has experienced on nintendo handhelds since forever.

this isn't like Final Fantasy where the franchise' 'home' has been on sony systems since the psx.
aside from the original releases of dq7 & dq8, DQ on nintendo systems is the 'norm'. hell even those two titles are on 3ds now, too.

 

[crinale]

Just release the thing to every system under the sun

 

[Some Nobody]

Horii has been saying various versions of "the game will be on consoles, not mobile, and not an MMO" for quite a while now but people are always looking for a reason for those things not to be true. Shrug.

Some people like taking L's, and love holding onto them even more, I guess.

Maybe it's been mentioned in the thread already, I don't know, I didn't read all the pages but the interview was updated with info stating that there will be a big DQ announcement in the July 13th Shonen Jump. Since this is in Japan I doubt it would have to do with DQ7 and DQ8 in the West. So it's either DQ11 related or another possibility according the the interview is a remake of a DQ for current gen (possibly DQ5). We'll find out in 9 days apparently.

http://www.ffring.com/news/Dragon-Quest-grosse-annonce-dans-Jump-db184513d9405.html

Probably not a remake, since the interview says something to the effect that they don't have any plans for that. But then, if I'm not mistaken the same interview said they didn't have any plans for bringing some DQ remakes over only to change his mind about it later that same day. Who knows.

 

[crinale]

Some people like taking L's, and love holding onto them even more, I guess.



Probably not a remake, since the interview says something to the effect that they don't have any plans for that. But then, if I'm not mistaken the same interview said they didn't have any plans for bringing some DQ remakes over only to change his mind about it later that same day. Who knows.

SJ is teasing like 5-week consecutive announcements, and last one should be right after DQ conference scheduled at beginning of Aug.

 

[gembel]

Maybe it's been mentioned in the thread already, I don't know, I didn't read all the pages but the interview was updated with info stating that there will be a big DQ announcement in the July 13th Shonen Jump. Since this is in Japan I doubt it would have to do with DQ7 and DQ8 in the West. So it's either DQ11 related or another possibility according the the interview is a remake of a DQ for current gen (possibly DQ5). We'll find out in 9 days apparently.

http://www.ffring.com/news/Dragon-Quest-grosse-annonce-dans-Jump-db184513d9405.html

Most likely DQ Heroes 2 first information.

 

[nightever]

SJ is teasing like 5-week consecutive announcements, and last one should be right after DQ conference scheduled at beginning of Aug.

What? When was a DQ conference announced? If ture, DQXI announcement is definitely coming.

 

[Dark_castle]

I think SE might have played a role in making DQXI coming to PS4. Remember that they currently have the two DQ Heroes, FFXV, FFVIIr, KH3, Star Ocean 5, Nier 2, World of FF and Project Setsuna coming to PS4. It makes sense because SE is trying revive console JRPG. Putting DQXI on the platform is very in line with their plan, ensuring more favorable response in their Japanese audience on the PS4.

 

[jiggle]

Aw
I'd like a little online

 

[Gloam]

What? When was a DQ conference announced? If ture, DQXI announcement is definitely coming.

I think there's a DQX anniversary stream coming up around the beginning of August.

 

[Dark_castle]

Most likely DQ Heroes 2 first information.

DQ Heroes 2 was already announced some time ago.

 

[MatrixMan.EXE]

Dragon Quest for home consoles were always, traditionally, for the system with biggest installed base on Japan. So far, Wii U is the home console with biggest userbase in Japan. Unless they change this now, it won't be for PS4 until they manage to outsell Wii U.

That's why it will be PS3/PS4.

 

[klee123]

That's why it will be PS3/PS4.

Not to mention that the Wii U is pretty much on its last legs and have had all the major games released on it, whilst the PS4 in reality is just getting started when it comes to software output.

Also, when it comes to console support. I wouldn't be surprised if the PS3 outlasts the Wii U considering how Nintendo treated the Wii and that was their most popular console.

 

[Pennywise83]

I think SE might have played a role in making DQXI coming to PS4. Remember that they currently have the two DQ Heroes, FFXV, FFVIIr, KH3, Star Ocean 5, Nier 2, World of FF and Project Setsuna coming to PS4. It makes sense because SE is trying revive console JRPG. Putting DQXI on the platform is very in line with their plan, ensuring more favorable response in their Japanese audience on the PS4.

Point is, none of those games have to sell 4m in Japan alone. Also, PS3 got mainline FF, SO and Nier as well back then. Seems impressive to see such support from SQEX but not that much if you think that those games will actually be released in a span of time of about 3-4 years.

 

[Busaiku]

3DS is nearing its EOL at 50 million. PS4 got to 20 million in 1.5 years.

I do think PS4 will probably do more in the end (mostly cause it'll be around longer), but 3DS did the same.

 

[Pennywise83]

3DS is nearing its EOL at 50 million. PS4 got to 20 million in 1.5 years. We all know which system is going to do better than the other. Also, I don't believe Horii ever specified it had to be the top system in Japan. As for the titles on 3DS, all it had gotten is ports of VII, VIII and X; ports of Monster 1 & 2; a Slime game; and a Theatrhythm game. To be fair, you are correct that there are some systems that got spinoffs without getting an exclusive mainline game like the Game Boy, but they did generally get a port of a mainline game like the Game Boy got ports of Dragon Quest I-III, and well, 3DS does have ports of VII, VIII, and X.

Even disregarding my third point, the first and especially the second point are still valid, unless you have some evidence that Horii specified that it was the top console in Japan and not just the top console period.

Raw numbers don't mean much. You have to control for geographical disparities and userbase. First, DQ is a Japan-focused IP so Japanese installed base matters a lot; secondly, how many people among those 20m PS4 owners would actually buy a DQ in the West? PS2 got +100m units in the West and DQVIII sold "only" 1m over here.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

All I need is "...and in English" to make the thread title meaningful to me. This generation has taught me to not hold my breath, but I will remain hopeful.

DQH is getting localised. DQ mainline games always get localised especially when its on the PS4.

 

[Oregano]

DQH is getting localised. DQ mainline games always get localised especially when its on the PS4.

DQX am cry.

 

[Jigorath]

Point is, none of those games have to sell 4m in Japan alone. Also, PS3 got mainline FF, SO and Nier as well back then. Seems impressive to see such support from SQEX but not that much if you think that those games will actually be released in a span of time of about 3-4 years.

Star Ocean 5, Worlds of Final Fantasy, DQ Heroes 2, and Project Setsuna are all set to release next year. Kingdom Hearts 3 is almost definitely a 2016 release as well since they already have a release date locked. Dissidia will probably be on PS4 by the end of 2016 depending on how long it'll stay arcade exclusive. Nier 2 and FFVIIR are obviously very off and I think FFXV is 2017. Square's PS4 support is very impressive regardless of how you want to spin it.

 

[Zanasea]

Star Ocean 5, Worlds of Final Fantasy, DQ Heroes 2, and Project Setsuna are all set to release next year. Kingdom Hearts 3 is almost definitely a 2016 release as well since they already have a release date locked. Dissidia will probably be on PS4 by the end of 2016 depending on how long it'll stay arcade exclusive. Nier 2 and FFVIIR are obviously very off and I think FFXV is 2017. Square's PS4 support is very impressive regardless of how you want to spin it.

2016 for FFXV and 2017 for KH3 seems more likely, having a release period set doesn't mean much (Tabata said the same about FFXV last year).

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

2016 for FFXV and 2017 for KH3 seems more likely, having a release period set doesn't mean much (Tabata said the same about FFXV last year).

KH3 seems to be quite far in its development. I'm thinking/hoping 2016 for KH3 as well.

 

[Pennywise83]

Star Ocean 5, Worlds of Final Fantasy, DQ Heroes 2, and Project Setsuna are all set to release next year. Kingdom Hearts 3 is almost definitely a 2016 release as well since they already have a release date locked. Dissidia will probably be on PS4 by the end of 2016 depending on how long it'll stay arcade exclusive. Nier 2 and FFVIIR are obviously very off and I think FFXV is 2017. Square's PS4 support is very impressive regardless of how you want to spin it.

There's no way SQEX will pack a fiscal year with so many games. There's a clear indication, given company's history, that some game will be delayed (well, Project Tetsuna doesn't even have a full title). Also, if FFXV is a 2017 game, than there's no way KHIII is a 2016 game since the former seems more advanced in terms of development.

That said, I'm not spinning anything.

 

[Jigorath]

2016 for FFXV and 2017 for KH3 seems more likely, having a release period set doesn't mean much (Tabata said the same about FFXV last year).

Judging by the E3 showcase, Kingdom Hearts 3 looks like it's development is going pretty smoothly ever since they switched to UE4. I think it can land next year. FFXV seems to be changing things constantly which why I'm less confident on that one.

There's no way SQEX will pack a fiscal year with so many games. There's a clear indication, given company's history, that some game will be delayed (well, Project Tetsuna doesn't even have a full title). Also, if FFXV is a 2017 game, than there's no way KHIII is a 2016 game since the former seems more advanced in terms of development.

That said, I'm not spinning anything.

I really don't think FFXV is going to land before KH3. The latter seems to be having a much smoother development cycle.

 

[stryke]

Judging by the E3 showcase, Kingdom Hearts 3 looks like it's development is going pretty smoothly ever since they switched to UE4. I think it can land next year. FFXV seems to be changing things constantly which why I'm less confident on that one.

I think 2016 for FFXV is pretty safe. We're going to see more of it next month anyway.

 

[Zanasea]

Judging by the E3 showcase, Kingdom Hearts 3 looks like it's development is going pretty smoothly ever since they switched to UE4. I think it can land next year. FFXV seems to be changing things constantly which why I'm less confident on that one.

KH3 at E3 was likely a gift for KH fans because the series is very popular in the West. The game has just resumed public activity while FFXV has been publicized since TGS last year. FFXV will be back under the spotlight next month and SE will probably focus on the game afterwards, because it's closer to completion and demo feedback has been processed. It's not "changing things constantly", it was just the consequence of Tabata having to explain what has changed since the Versus era.

 

[Dark_castle]

Kagari said 2016 for XV. I think it's a very reasonable release year for it as well.

 

[Jigorath]

I think 2016 for FFXV is pretty safe. We're going to see more of it next month anyway.

Hey, I hope I'm wrong. I'd love to see it next year.

 

[ArkhamFantasy]

Hey, I hope I'm wrong. I'd love to see it next year.

They are going into full blown advertising mode for XV at gamescom, its a 2016 game for sure.

 

[MatrixMan.EXE]

Raw numbers don't mean much. You have to control for geographical disparities and userbase. First, DQ is a Japan-focused IP so Japanese installed base matters a lot; secondly, how many people among those 20m PS4 owners would actually buy a DQ in the West? PS2 got +100m units in the West and DQVIII sold "only" 1m over here.

'Raw numbers don't mean much' - Proceeds to argue against a console DQ game with...raw numbers. What?

 

[Pennywise83]

'Raw numbers don't mean much' - Proceeds to argue against a console DQ game with...raw numbers. What?

I was meaning "numbers out of the context". If you can argue what I wrote, I'd be glad to reply.

 

[Kyoufu]

There's no way SQEX will pack a fiscal year with so many games. There's a clear indication, given company's history, that some game will be delayed (well, Project Tetsuna doesn't even have a full title). Also, if FFXV is a 2017 game, than there's no way KHIII is a 2016 game since the former seems more advanced in terms of development.

That said, I'm not spinning anything.

I've heard the opposite of that so I wouldn't be shocked in the slightest if KH3 came out before XV.

Anyway, the nice thing about DQ11 being announced is that it won't be far off the actual release. The wait for Square-Enix's other games to finally see the light of day has been painful.

 

[Brocken]

PS3/PS4 is a safe bet, and all but guaranteed when you factor everything in.

Two months ago I wouldn't have even entertained the thought of the WiiU but then Splatoon happened, and now by the time DQXI launches the WiiU may still be the largest current gen console in Japan. Which would be rather funny, in a comedic sort of way, what with SE trying to revive consoles at home and seemingly betting on the worse-for-wear dead horse (domestically). Obviously, though, SE is thinking globally.

DQ XI probably will be released in 2018, Wii U will be dead and buried for a long time a that point. Ps3 would be in the same situation.

 

[MatrixMan.EXE]

I was meaning "numbers out of the context". If you can argue what I wrote, I'd be glad to reply.

I've expressed my argument in this thread many times before. It isn't just a simple case of, 'Well, 3DS has the highest install base in Japan so that's the only platform that makes sense'.

Sure, it makes sense for the game to be on there, but PS3/PS4 is just as viable given the direction Square Enix seems to be going. The way I see it, the console market in Japan needs a jolt, and Square Enix seems to be spearheading this with the amount of support they're giving the PS4.

Whether this works or not is another story, but you don't get results unless you try. Secondly, Dragon Quest releases in the west are far too inconsistent for anyone to draw any sort of conclusion was to its sales pattern overseas. Hell, Dragon Quest VII didn't even release in Europe.

If Square Enix wants to start looking globally, and at the same time try and keep the console market afloat in Japan then PS3/PS4 is the choice that makes sense. The handheld market, even where its doing best, is at huge risk of being no more in the next decade, despite how well the 3DS and Vita are being supported, there's been nothing but decline.

So Japanese developers either have to try and revive the console market or face both traditional sectors crumble while mobile is the only thing left standing. Square Enix has made it clear they're aware of this, and as such, I have no doubts that Dragon Quest XI will form part of their plan.

 

[FunkyDealer]

Well, technically the 3DS is like a console you can play at home.

 

[Palette Swap]

DQ XI probably will be released in 2018, Wii U will be dead and buried for a long time a that point. Ps3 would be in the same situation.

I'd be genuinely surprised (and disappointed) if XI doesn't release in Japan in 2016 in time for the anniversary.

 

[Newtype-001]

Well, technically the 3DS is like a console you can play at home.

With a controller?