yep, it looks fun but sadly i wont be playing it.
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Nintendo: line-up for the rest of 2015 (Star Fox, Fatal Frame 5, more)
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yep, it looks fun but sadly i wont be playing it.
thecouncil
Banned
$50 for an eshop game?
On a system with no sense of an account system?
Heh. Get real.
On a system with no sense of an account system?
Heh. Get real.
OrbitalBeard
Member
"No sense of an account system"?
Nintendo needs to modernize but lol at this statement, as its false. I have access to Wii downloads from November 2006 on my Wii U.
OrbitalBeard
Member
Star Fox games have always retailed for the amount of a full priced title though.
You act like retail games don't go for full price on the eShop. That's what Fatal Frame is so not sure what your'e trying to get at. The system has an account system. You might not like how it's setup but that doesn't mean it's not there.
I will say that Devil's Third is getting a physical release and Fatal Frame isn't is confusing. FF will likely review better and is in a place to be pushed better with Halloween and could be advertised during shows like The Walking Dead the way Splatoon was last night during Fear The Walking Dead. This decision by NoA as well as making Devil's Third full price makes no sense.
Star Fox Zero also going for full price makes no sense either we they've already pretty much said it's content is going to be lite ye there being no multiplayer. No way it's going to be as dense with content like the platformers or adventure games. It's a score attack game that has had a questionable response to it's look and feel. They're either holding a lot back or NoA is just being stupid all around.
I believe it, but Nintendo used to have more inflexible pricing. That's changed. If Captain Toad is $40--and if DK and Yoshi are $50--it's bizarre to me that SF would be full price.
But I'm still surprised Super Mario Maker is $60. I expect that to have tons of content so I can get over it more easily. But I'm not a huge SF fan to begin with, so this price tag all but ensures I will pick it up down the line at best.
OrbitalBeard
Member
I hope so, but I don't know of any SF game, barring Adventures, with a lengthy quest or a full-priced Nintendo game's amount of content.
Didn't they say this one won't have online MP, either?
FWIW, I think Splatoon should have been be $50.
Oh, I know. Maybe I'll do a GameFly month like I did for Splatoon....
Diddy Kong
Banned
So Mario Tennis will likely get pushed back to 2016 then eh?
kunonabi
Member
So releasing 3 games in a row is a sign of KOEI throwing money away and not a sign of meeting expectations to continue with release after release? And Nintendo's big plan to not lose money on the franchise and turn things around is to skip two releases for the US in a row, then release a digital only version with as minimal promotion as possible and digital only on a console with limited storage space that most people apparently didn't buy hard drives for? Horror games have been making a bit of comeback lately and Nintendo could have finally started positioning FF as their big horror franchise but they seem dead set on not trying.
The game better be uncensored if we're getting shafted out of a retail release.
Can't believe the only game I'm genuinely excited to buy and play is Super Mario Maker and Xenoblade X. Such a weak holiday lineup for Nintendo this year IMO... That mega yoshi amiibo is now basically a plushie. I would buy it if it's not a nightmare to get. If it is, then I will not bother. I'm tired of always suffering to get Nintendo products. Everyday less and less stores carry their products and I always have to end up importing or paying higher than their original prices (I'm in Mexico btw).
Also, all this sudden information that could easily be in a Nintendo Direct....
Nintendo Directs are no more isn'it?
Also, all this sudden information that could easily be in a Nintendo Direct....
Nintendo Directs are no more isn'it?
Spieler Eins
Member
Even though some people want to constitute this image of Nintendo as a Samaritan ever since Bayonetta 2, there's absolutely nothing to suggest that Fatal Frame was anything other than a good old money hat - in fact I expect FF to continue on other systems in the future -, which then ultimately crippled international releases because of NoA not giving two shits about hardcore/niche gamers (at least EU got the 2 remake). Which is quite a stupid attitude for one of the big 3, considering that they need to cultivate all kinds of userbases on their systems and not actively piss off a bunch of smaller individual ones with incredibly short sighted/shortterm sales projections.
It was just arrogant when they were swimming in money last gen (when it affected tons of games not coming to the US, thankfully again much less in EU) and now it's just idiotic and doesn't deserve any kind of defending. Nor did it ever.
Absolutely ridiculous. Especially since this isn't about taking a risk in making these games, but barely properly releasing what's already been made. We aren't talking about some niche localisation studio or half dead publisher here, but one of the main players of the industry.
I doubt NoA will not censor it.
Colonel Mustard
Banned
We've been expecting Fatal Frame to continue on other platforms since IV. It's not happening. There's some investment on Nintendo's part that we're not privy to.
While I think a limited physical release for FFV would be great, making the game free to start probably gives it a much better chance at success than a standard release would.
While I think a limited physical release for FFV would be great, making the game free to start probably gives it a much better chance at success than a standard release would.
I think I need to take a different tone. I am just discussing what's going on and not so much taking sides.
I don't like how NoA operates at all.
So I don't want to come off as defending them. I know that's hard to do when discussing one side vs the other here. I am just trying to see it from their angle.
Honestly though this is ultimately the stuff that Pranger was talking about. Only Nintendo knows if the costs are justified and clearly to them, they aren't. This is their modis operandi.
Also I've said this before, risk is the wrong word.
It's not about risk. It's about return. They could spend that localization money on X and get 10% back or spend it on Y and get 20% back. That's how decisions are usually made. Not a binary if it will recoup its money but which project will return the most money. That line of thinking can be seen in a lot of NoAs decisions for better or worse.
Honestly what I would prefer to see from them is a better job of farming those other projects out to third party houses that are okay with a smaller return and working with them to promote the games. They definitely failed there in regards to controlling properties and doing nothing with them.
To be fair, Fatal Frame 4 is all on K-T, due to their stubbornness to not pay for the patching that the Japanese game needed, which in turn killed the localization for the west. Everybody lost out on that one.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
Member
So roughly similar date for starfox in UK then, sweet.
I don't think they want to do a Nintendo Direct so soon after Iwata's passing. Maybe this Holiday or next year.Can't believe the only game I'm genuinely excited to buy and play is Super Mario Maker and Xenoblade X. Such a weak holiday lineup for Nintendo this year IMO... That mega yoshi amiibo is now basically a plushie. I would buy it if it's not a nightmare to get. If it is, then I will not bother. I'm tired of always suffering to get Nintendo products. Everyday less and less stores carry their products and I always have to end up importing or paying higher than their original prices (I'm in Mexico btw).
Also, all this sudden information that could easily be in a Nintendo Direct....
Nintendo Directs are no more isn'it?
James Scott
Banned
There's an account system coming this fall. A new one at least, maybe it debutes in October with this game.
Sammy Samusu
Member
James Scott
Banned
I wouldn't mind it in February but it might be better before Christmas
Spieler Eins
Member
They supposedly had the EU version ready, as usual, but let's not act as if the game would have come out in the US (at least without fans raging like with ,,rainfall'').
Nowhere Man
Member
Buying StarFox and Xnoblade day one. Would have bought Fatal Frame as well if it were retail. Fuck you NOA.
It says Holiday 2015. Nintendo is usually specific about the year when they mean to be. Same w/ Amiibo Festival--I think both will hit in time for X-Mas.
I'd like to be wrong. I just haven't seen anything about the game to indicate otherwise. I understand a big part of SF is replayability, but it is going to have to have a ton of content to justify that price for me, apart from just being SF tax.
That is what I said. Nintendo has shown before that they gave the user value for thier money. Lets wait and see.
This. We didn't know how packed W101 & Bayonetta 2 were until close to their respective releases. Plus, knowing Nintendo, we could see a 3D World-tier facelift from a graphical standpoint.
I doubt they will.
Sammy Samusu
Member
There is? Care to elaborate?
Mauricio_Magus
Banned
It makes me sad to know that we might not get Rhythm Heaven 3DS.
dolabla
Member
So Europe and Asia get Fatal Frame both digital and retail, but the Americas get E-Shop only? NoA can go suck it.
You know what would make this much easier is if Nintendo made their consoles region free (so we physical lovers could just import) like the other two current gen consoles, but they gotta be different/backwards for some reason.
You know what would make this much easier is if Nintendo made their consoles region free (so we physical lovers could just import) like the other two current gen consoles, but they gotta be different/backwards for some reason.
You'll hear no real argument from me, there. Nintendo loves to give a lot of content, but SF seems like the exception--especially if there is no online MP (which I'm not big on myself, but I can see how for something like MK8 it adds value). I dunno. I might just not be the target audience.
But these are crazy short games:
http://howlongtobeat.com/ (search Star Fox--can't figure out how to link directly, sorry)
I would be glad to see the graphics look considerably better. That wouldn't surprise me. I'd be disappointed if they looked as they currently do. It has the appearance of a GCN game in HD, based on the E3 footage. I'm not someone who is usually overly concerned about graphics. But they were notably unexciting to me in the E3 footage.
As to Bayo and W101, I don't think anyone had the impression they'd be sparse on content, but I do get your meaning.
Oh, I don't doubt that NOA would have fucked it up as they usually did back then, but my understanding was that NOE had jumped the gun a little early, before it became obvious that K-T wasn't going to fix it. The recall in Japan sealed the game's fate for good.
OrbitalBeard
Member
It'll probably be announced out of nowhere like Majora's Mask 3D and release a couple months later. I'm gonna' guess early 2016. Same with Picross 3D 2.
boyshine
Member
Might as well start to get used to it.
Gaiaknight
Member
well looks like my wallet is gonna hurt this year
Super mario maker
Yoshi woolly world
Fatal Frame 5
Star Fox Zero
Xenoblade Chronicles X
Devils Third
Animal Crossing Amiibo Festival
Mario Tennis Ultra Smash
Animal Crossing happy homy designer
Chibi Robo Zip Lash
Zelda Trifoce heroes
Pokemon Super mystery dungeon
3 yarn yoshi amiibo
Falco Amiibo
mewtwo amiibo
classic mario amiibo
8 animal crossing amiibo
how ever many packs it takes me to complete the AC cards
Its a damn good thing there is only 4 ps4 games that i give a crap about for the rest of the year lol
Super mario maker
Yoshi woolly world
Fatal Frame 5
Star Fox Zero
Xenoblade Chronicles X
Devils Third
Animal Crossing Amiibo Festival
Mario Tennis Ultra Smash
Animal Crossing happy homy designer
Chibi Robo Zip Lash
Zelda Trifoce heroes
Pokemon Super mystery dungeon
3 yarn yoshi amiibo
Falco Amiibo
mewtwo amiibo
classic mario amiibo
8 animal crossing amiibo
how ever many packs it takes me to complete the AC cards
Its a damn good thing there is only 4 ps4 games that i give a crap about for the rest of the year lol
Star Falcon
Member
Xenoblade is the only thing i might pick up.
Seriously annoyed at Nintendo for such a dismal year of releases. At least there's always Smash Bros...
Seriously annoyed at Nintendo for such a dismal year of releases. At least there's always Smash Bros...
OrbitalBeard
Member
Digital is better than nothing.....but people still have a right to be disappointed.
thecouncil
Banned
Tied to the system. I have multiple systems, I should be able to download the game across all of them, no? I have 2 Wii Us. I have 2 "accounts". Ok, maybe it'd be better if I filled the space in with an 'n' and took out a few words: "Nonsense account system". Haha.
I act like I can buy a physical disc for most $50 games. One that I can use in different Wii Us or sell if I want.
We'll see.
Someone hands you a piece of cake and then slaps you in the face... but at least you got the cake, right?
I know, I know, bad analogy. It's only a joke.
Personally to me it more annoying that I might need to end up getting a external drive just for this game if I dive in, cause the game is freaking 16GB.
Ah well I just wait for sales for drives then.
