These are the prices in coins for building a second FOB according to Kotaku's article on it yesterday:
Just so we have some perspective on those daily rewards.
The other screenshot in OP has higher prices (1600 and 1700).
Prices have been reduced?
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F*ck Konami: MGSV FOBs beyond the first must be bought via macrotransactions
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The other screenshot in OP has higher prices (1600 and 1700).
Prices have been reduced?
Yea, doesnt matter much if a whole week gets you 80 MB coins.
And I couldn't care less.
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/metal-gear-solid-5s-daily-mother-base-coins-bonus-/1100-6430242/
TAH DAH! Thread closed
what changed? We already discussed with the knowledge of 80 coins per week for quite some time now or not?
Yeah, it's basically just saying "hey you can't complain now, we added a method to get it ingame now!" only it's a extremely slim amount, we'll see how it pans out later on but that daily doesn't look good at all.
poodaddy
Member
Just advising you to calm down and act like an adult that's all, I believe all human beings, regardless of what authority they hold on an internet forum, can do that. And on a separate note, I'm honestly curious as to why I consistently had to count Canadian pennies when I was a bookkeeper? I'm not being snarky, I'm honestly asking. I was a bookkeeper in Northern Washington for two years and I kept getting Canadian pennies in my pennies pile every day, which really threw off my entire counting routine as I would have to fish them out of my machine and count them separately then send them to a different department out of state that handled foreign transactions.....and now you're telling me it was all for naught!! Woe is me.....so many hours wasted.
Because as a bookkeeper your job is to count money...
These are the prices in coins for building a second FOB according to Kotaku's article on it yesterday:
Just so we have some perspective on those daily rewards.
Disgusting.
I'm probably going to put off Phantom Pain until I get all I want from Ground Zeroes for my import...I'm hoping by the time I do, later this week, people have started figuring out how all this MB Coins and FOB stuff actually works and if anyone figures out any exploits to get those faster.
poodaddy
Member
lol I know, and that's my fault for not elaborating. I mean I just saw them so often that it seemed like they were still being minted regularly. I guess they must still be in heavy circulation despite the lack of a minting process. When did the Canadian mint stop pressing pennies? I was a bookkeeper a couple of years ago now so perhaps its a moot point, but I've often considered going back to that job if my current line of work doesn't work out one day, and I've considered moving to Canada so I suppose it's just idle curiosity
I haven't played the game yet but will you know what kind of FOB you will raid when raiding other players? People who are upset with the microtransactions but still buy the game could focus on the purchasable FOBs to infiltrate and steal from so as to make the whales suffer.
Not too long ago. 2-5 years or something like that.
I can't believe people think that it's fine because we can just ignore the FOB stuff. Should we not be able to enjoy that feature in full without such nonsense, beings we paid $60 for the game?
I would love to build these huge bases and mess with the invasions, but I am not going to grind for months in order to get another base and I sure as hell am not going to buy the coin packs in order to build. This is just abhorrent and walls off a part of the game that we paid for... period.
I would love to build these huge bases and mess with the invasions, but I am not going to grind for months in order to get another base and I sure as hell am not going to buy the coin packs in order to build. This is just abhorrent and walls off a part of the game that we paid for... period.
poodaddy
Member
Makes sense then, I suppose those pennies will still see circulation for at least a decade, perhaps two, before us Americans stop seeing them. Being so close to the Canadian border we see a lot of overlap here from the financial side of things. It actually makes working with money something of a pain in the ass, but also very interesting.
Those wonderful souls at Konami.
We should all just be happy to gag on Konami's dick.
poodaddy
Member
Completely agree. As I said earlier, I feel like I'd be extremely frustrated if I paid for this game, but I got the Nvidia promotion deal with my card. In a sense I feel that I should still be upset, as that game is part of the reason I bought the card, but for some reason I don't feel like I paid money for the game. It's weird. But yes it's a ridiculous practice, and I won't be supporting it. By the way does anyone know if PC has something of a workaround for this madness? I typically don't go that route for these types of things, but for this bullshit I'll make an exception. That and I really just don't like giving Konami money....it feels like I'd be buying something from M. Bison. Just feels wrong.
So far yes
NullPointer
Member
Chubzdoomer
Banned
Seeing crap like this makes me glad I purchased Mad Max instead.
Microtransactions in $60 games is never okay.
Microtransactions in $60 games is never okay.
Well, apparently many feel it is okay. The gaming media is too busy pushing the hype and the perfect scores to even bother with this and I am sure the sales are to the moon.
JigglesBunny
Banned
The daily earning to cost ratio is fucking appalling.
Jesus man, ever since this year started, I have wanted to see Konami burn for all of this shit but they really don't give a fuck about anything at all.
Konami is a garbage company and shouldn't be allowed to exist anymore, ugh.
Jesus man, ever since this year started, I have wanted to see Konami burn for all of this shit but they really don't give a fuck about anything at all.
Konami is a garbage company and shouldn't be allowed to exist anymore, ugh.
Last night I was doing Dispatch Missions until I ran out of them. Then I saw another tab: Dispatch Missions (online). I sent my dudes (units) to do two of them, and the time it said it would take was like a day and some hours. I said why not.
Today I log in and find a new batch of Dispatch missions (offline), but I can't get to them because the my units are still preoccupied with the online ones. So then I have to go back to see the progress, and you can "hurry" them along by paying MB coins. F- that.
1) It's possible to run out of Dispatch Missions (offline), which leaves you the only option of doing the online ones. (Why would anyone bother with Online Dispatch Missions otherwise? They limited them for a reason,... very shady).
2) The online ones take forever (relative to offline ones), and you can expedite this by paying real-life money.
3) Connecting the game online makes the Combat Deployment menu hang for a long time -- basically freezes your game, probably due to server stress or whatever. I had to kill the application on my PS4 and restart it. All I know is that I don't like it, and I'm not returning online again until I beat the game.
If there is an ugly side to MGSV: TPP, the microtransactions are it.
Today I log in and find a new batch of Dispatch missions (offline), but I can't get to them because the my units are still preoccupied with the online ones. So then I have to go back to see the progress, and you can "hurry" them along by paying MB coins. F- that.
1) It's possible to run out of Dispatch Missions (offline), which leaves you the only option of doing the online ones. (Why would anyone bother with Online Dispatch Missions otherwise? They limited them for a reason,... very shady).
2) The online ones take forever (relative to offline ones), and you can expedite this by paying real-life money.
3) Connecting the game online makes the Combat Deployment menu hang for a long time -- basically freezes your game, probably due to server stress or whatever. I had to kill the application on my PS4 and restart it. All I know is that I don't like it, and I'm not returning online again until I beat the game.
If there is an ugly side to MGSV: TPP, the microtransactions are it.
So it gets even worse?
Exploratory
Banned
Lol did I say that? I just said freaking the fuck out when we don't have all the facts is dumb.
Yeah, the other story here is that the gaming media, once again, was played like a fiddle and happily sucked a publisher's d*ck at a review event.
Of course this resulted in the media not getting the whole picture since the appalling F2P stuff conveniently came to light after the review event. I imagine some of these perfect scores would be a bit lower had this been known when the media got their hands on the game.
Well, "thanks" game journalists. Great work as always. I hope you at least liked Konami's hospitality; your reviews turned out to be worthless.
Wow, straight up mobile F2P bullshit. I want to puke
(all over Konami)
OHHH CRAAAAAP
But they could address it now if they were honest. Instead, all I am seeing is "why we gave MGSV a 10" and playthroughs gushing over it like it is the best thing since sliced bread.
Everyone who doesn't think it's okay will simply not pay money for the coins. Suggesting that they shouldn't buy the game at all is ridiculous.
All of the reviews are for the single player portion, btw.
As if any of those tools who attended the review event would ever admit that they did the wrong thing. lol
It's a nice circumstance for Konami that game journos will now ignore or even defend that shit so their reviews continue to seem credible.
I never suggested that and even own it myself. However, what I am saying is that beings we paid $60 for the game, we should be able to fully enjoy the FOB mode without having to grind for months on end in order to build another base or buy coins to speed it up like it is a free to play game. A part of the game that we paid for is walled off with this design in mind and that is just a fact that there really is no defense for.
It's not ridiculous at all. It's the only way Konami would take notice and it's been explained in this thread several times why that is the case.
The rating should be for the whole product, not just one portion of the game. Bad multiplayer mode dragged down scores for games with a good single-player mode before. Why should MGSV get a pass?
CosmicQueso
Member
No, the reviews cover the product that someone would go to the store and buy. That means all of it.
If they wanted a free to play mode, they should have sliced that portion of the game off and actually made a free to play offering. Hell, they would make a lot more money that way too.
Oh, I agree that there's no good excuse. Who are the people that think it's is okay like you mentioned, though? The reviewers were not exposed to it, and were able to get through the single player just fine.
I mean the reviews that are out there now. If they decided to change the score based on the MP, then so be it. Polygon has done it before.
Some people are acting like the reviews are worthless though...which is pretty hyperbolic.
Do what you want but guys like you, who don't give a damn about the consequences of their actions and only see the here and now, are responsible for this stuff getting worse and worse.Am I a bad person if I buy some MB coins just too have a second FOB?
As long as people fall for this crap, publishers will push it further. Unfortunately there will always be a portion of gamers that is just plain short-sighted and only care about the next couple of days as far as videogames go.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
Ontrac and in game purchases, two strikes.Am I a bad person if I buy some MB coins just too have a second FOB?
Gentleman Jack
Member
Welp.
Shining Sunshine
Banned
Is it inappropriate to talk about unlocking this paid content on PC via mods?
Gentleman Jack
Member
I'd wait for a 3rd party site to cover it before posting instructions on how to circumvent a pay-to-play system built into a commercial product. Seems risky to just paste it into a gaf thread. You could always just PM a mod.
Shining Sunshine
Banned
Oh I dunno how to do it. lol
Just wondering if it's something that can be talked about.
And I agree with you 100% its just after reading the reviews on how the FOBs have different functions like the zoo make me want to buy MB coins but I also don't want to support this microtransaction bullshit. Maybe I'll hold off til I actually play the game first.
Amazon chose ontrac not me lol
This is exactly how I feel about PS+ and Live. Which is why I don't have a PS4 or a XBO. I know I shouldn't be shocked by what they're doing with FOB's, but I still am. I hope this method is rejected by anyone who buys the game because there's no telling how deep this hole can get.
Gentleman Jack
Member
I don't think you'd get banned for a post to the effect of 'Kotaku has an article that says people are unlocking new FOBs without buying them via MB Coins.' Only a mod can say for certain tho.
Holy fucking shit I'm so done with this game now.
lazybones18
Banned
ok, there's a 5th add-on option for the PS4 version on the US Store. Either I missed it earlier or it was added later
It sounds exactly like those dime a dozen f2p browser game's where you build (and mobile). Atleast the online part.
If you enjoy the series, you enjoy it and thats the end of that. For example i don't think any reasonable person is going to demonize you, i know i wouldn't.
We also know by now "vote with your wallet" doesn't do much of anything (which i agree on), atleast i haven't seen it work over the years. Those words sound nice when written as a forum post but..thats about all it does.
This just means we need to find something that is effective (without hanging someone at the stake in the process), just like anything else in life incase things do ever get too far. Posting "vote with your wallet" is just a fancy word for "nothing" because it doesn't really do anything. In other words enjoy the game.