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New Star Wars Battlefront Coverage (Oct 5)

Barakov

Member
First person footage looks looks pretty great. 3rd person footage less so. Pretty excited to check out the beta.
 
Yes, and as the trade federation your goals will be to strategically place blockades and discussing a treaty with the jedis. All in 1st person.

or, you know, deploy droidekas to kashyyk and massacre wookies like in the first battlefront.

And as the Naboo, Jar Jar Binks is your hero, using his power as an offensive racial stereotype to dominate the battlefield through sheer stupidity.

Do people really forget how awful the prequels are? They should just be ignored and we can move on with a lot of dlc from episode 7.

you only look at the prequels themselves. nearly every other piece of media from that era has been great, and even if you ignore that, the prequels temselves have more intense and larger scale battles than the OT.
 
It's as if they didn't update the lightsaber animations at all.... Still buying but a little disappointed. Hopefully the the other heroes play better
 
Impressions from several people I know who have played it have said it's a pretty smooth 60, more consistent than BF4. I'll find out for myself on Thursday.

I kind of hope that DICE's 60fps Frostbite games eventually have dynamic res. There's a huge gap in overhead for stuff like 64 player Conquest and 16 player Domination and I'd like to see that taken advantage of in the applicable modes.

That would be a positive change if it was stable. And I agree... dynamic res should be a priority!
 

Sharpeye

Member
you only look at the prequels themselves. nearly every other piece of media from that era has been great, and even if you ignore that, the prequels temselves have more intense and larger scale battles than the OT.

You have no idea how much I would love for an Umbara map, that was the Clone wars Vietnam. Or the second battle of Genosia with flamethrowers and parasites. Jeez there is so battles and planets they could do that could even lend a single player campaign but instead we only get 4 planets and no Galactic conquest.
 

Boke1879

Member
After watching this I really don't think Dice "gets it". They're wowing us with Frostbite 3 but the game itself seems barebones and lacks the spirit of even a leaked alpha for the cancelled version.

I think people need to stop holding on to this footage to a game that doesn't exist. DICE have stated plenty of times this game is not Battlefront 3. The only thing really missing that I would have loved is Space battles.

But this footage is for a game that doesn't exist and we don't even know if it would have even came together in a game.
 
you only look at the prequels themselves. nearly every other piece of media from that era has been great, and even if you ignore that, the prequels temselves have more intense and larger scale battles than the OT.
The films are the primary source for Battlefront, so of course my emphasis will be on the movies.
The original clone wars and Republic Commando were great. The biggest problem is the perception of the new trilogy being completely sophomoric and its appeal to the 8-16 age group (especially with new clone wars). To a company that's making a shooting game (and has made military shooters for 16+), the appeal has to be to the 18-54 group. On screen, yes the battles are bigger for the new trilogy but we know that's a real world budget issue and not a canonical problem (look at Wookiepedia, the battles from OT are much bigger than on screen). It's entirely possible that the prequels will be represented when the game is fully established, but for the time being I think DICE is doing the right thing by focusing on the OT.

In terms of the PC gamer article, I always have found piloting in a Battlefield game to be clunky (but that's on me, others can master it). If there were problems with the flying mechanics, it could just be the journalist(s) playing the game versus a serious in-game defect. On the other hand, if the controls truly are rubbish, I'm sure DICE can fix it given their past history.
 
I think people need to stop holding on to this footage to a game that doesn't exist. DICE have stated plenty of times this game is not Battlefront 3. The only thing really missing that I would have loved is Space battles.

But this footage is for a game that doesn't exist and we don't even know if it would have even came together in a game.

Agree.
Seeing this 10fps Pre-Alpha builds running on 360 devkits... i dont think the FR Battlefront would have worked.
 

Dmax3901

Member
I think people need to stop holding on to this footage to a game that doesn't exist. DICE have stated plenty of times this game is not Battlefront 3. The only thing really missing that I would have loved is Space battles.

But this footage is for a game that doesn't exist and we don't even know if it would have even came together in a game.

Sure it doesn't exist, I guess something is better than nothing at all, but I can't help but feel like it's a rushed project to coincide with the Star Wars fever of Ep 7.
 
After watching this I really don't think Dice "gets it". They're wowing us with Frostbite 3 but the game itself seems barebones and lacks the spirit of even a leaked alpha for the cancelled version.
The original games were barebones. That alpha was cancelled because it consistently failed to meet deadlines and was extremely buggy.

As someone who put thousands of hours into the multiplayer of SWBF2 this new game captures the spirit of the originals perfectly.
 

Dmax3901

Member
The original games were barebones. That alpha was cancelled because it consistently failed to meet deadlines and was extremely buggy.

As someone who put thousands of hours into the multiplayer of SWBF2 this new game captures the spirit of the originals perfectly.

That's fair. I'll still probably be getting this Day One. I'll be annoyed if space battles are added later in a paid expansion like Battlefield 3/4.
 

kikonawa

Member
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Toparaman

Banned
I think it's pretty sweet that you don't need a PS Plus sub to play the beta, and you didn't even have to sign up or anything. Even if it's janky I think I'll still enjoy it because it feels like it has been forever since a AAA Star Wars game was out.
 
That's fair. I'll still probably be getting this Day One. I'll be annoyed if space battles are added later in a paid expansion like Battlefield 3/4.
It most probably will be along with prequels. I can already see space pack and clone wars pack part of the season pass for 99.99. I mean I am joking here but I won't be surprised if it's true.
 
Did you enjoy the beta?

Drop Zone yes.

Survival didn't do much for me as "you vs waves" has never been a fun mechanic for me.

Walker Assault feels too tuned towards the Imperials at this point. Also, I was playing mouse and keyboard - they gave us the option of M/KB or controller - so controlling some of the vehicles was rough.
 

Boke1879

Member
Sure it doesn't exist, I guess something is better than nothing at all, but I can't help but feel like it's a rushed project to coincide with the Star Wars fever of Ep 7.

Of course I wish that was a real game.

As a fan of DICE and Battlefield games I'm excited this series is in their hands. Sure they were on a deadline to have the game out in time for the movie, but to me and others what they have showed off so far looks great. I can already tell Walker Assault and Drop Zone will get tons of my time. The stream Playstation just did was awesome imo.

I understand the complaints people have. I'd honestly just say either way for reviews or wait until the game is out.
 
The Hero gameplay looks terrible. The animations are all over the damn place.

Digging the rest of it a lot though, especially the first person gameplay. The third person animations for regular infantry are very good - lots of great little transitions - but I'm not a fan of that really obvious fisheye lens effect.
 

Hagi

Member
14 maps sounds pretty cool, what I'm seeing from that Playstation stream is keeping me interested. I can see me playing a lot of the wave based mode with my brother. Interested in seeing what the character customization is like for the Imperial side.

Hero stuff looks lame tbh but I was never interested in playing Luke or Vader. Hopefully Han is cool but least you can get his blaster for normal play.
 

Boke1879

Member
The Hero gameplay looks terrible. The animations are all over the damn place.

Digging the rest of it a lot though, especially the first person gameplay. The third person animations for regular infantry are very good - lots of great little transitions - but I'm not a fan of that really obvious fisheye lens effect.

Watching the Playstation stream. Aside from it being hilarious seeing Luke move so fast it didn't look that bad and they will definitely add tension to battles
 
Dice's Battlefront is the "The Order: 1886" of Star Wars games.


Can we kickstart this or something? Fuck.

naw, there are more fitting star wars games for that title imho. were the force unleashed games good looking for their time?

The films are the primary source for Battlefront, so of course my emphasis will be on the movies.
The original clone wars and Republic Commando were great. The biggest problem is the perception of the new trilogy being completely sophomoric and its appeal to the 8-16 age group (especially with new clone wars). To a company that's making a shooting game (and has made military shooters for 16+), the appeal has to be to the 18-54 group. On screen, yes the battles are bigger for the new trilogy but we know that's a real world budget issue and not a canonical problem (look at Wookiepedia, the battles from OT are much bigger than on screen). It's entirely possible that the prequels will be represented when the game is fully established, but for the time being I think DICE is doing the right thing by focusing on the OT.

In terms of the PC gamer article, I always have found piloting in a Battlefield game to be clunky (but that's on me, others can master it). If there were problems with the flying mechanics, it could just be the journalist(s) playing the game versus a serious in-game defect. On the other hand, if the controls truly are rubbish, I'm sure DICE can fix it given their past history.

that's true the battles are much bigger than we see, but still i can't help but shake the feeling you're kind of bending the canon to make it seem like rebels and empire had similarly sized forces when i think one of the underlying themes of the film is that the scrappy rebels are facing off against the bigger and stronger empire.
 
On a note completely unrelated to the gameplay, I have to say this game has the best looking rocks, boulders, and terrain I've ever seen. So many games have rocks that look like weird lumps of clay sculpted by someone who's never gone outside rather than geological mineral formations, but the level artists clearly spent some time researching and making some nice looking geology (that's still shaped into something suitable for gameplay).
 
Should be interesting to see how it looks and plays on Xbox One,both resolution and AA wise, and of course framerate. This thursday we will find out.
 

manfestival

Member
movements look so battlefield... eugh

vaders voice is terrible but aside from those minor things. it looks very good but thats from a glance for the most part
 

SapientWolf

Trucker Sexologist
old battlefront was a janky game that barely came together, true, but it still was pulled together enough to say "if we threw all the heroes together in one map, what would happen?" and be able to create something truly magical out of that scenario.

cancelled BF3 was going to continue this type of thinking--there's leaked gameplay out there of this mode on a new Courscant map.

man, i'm just really depressed about this game--we got so close to what everyone wanted out of a new battlefront--more maps on more planets, hero mode in more places, space to ground and ground to space, sprawling massive maps, and upgraded visuals--and it never happened. now we're struggling to make do with the mess that's DICEfront.
Dice's Battlefront is an actual shipping game. Cancelled BF3 was just a pipe dream that was such a mess it never got released. I would much rather see something smaller in scope with more polish this time around. No one wants a repeat of BF4.

And once they have a solid foundation they can begin expanding the featureset with DLC.
 
I'm confused at why people are becoming so negative over this game all of the sudden. This looks like the same footage we saw months ago. It looks like fun for me so far but I'll have to wait for the beta until I can see if I'm going to preorder it
 

Machina

Banned
I'm confused at why people are becoming so negative over this game all of the sudden. This looks like the same footage we saw months ago. It looks like fun for me so far but I'll have to wait for the beta until I can see if I'm going to preorder it

GAF gonna GAF. You can also put it down to DICE putting everyone offside with BF4, then there is the EA factor.
 

Trup1aya

Member
This game is just oozing with missed opportunity... So many other quality shooters coming out this Holiday to be bothered with this...

I'm sure it'll be a hit with Star Wars fanatics, though... Which is probably it's saving grace... Nothing like a strong license.
 
Dice's Battlefront is an actual shipping game. Cancelled BF3 was just a pipe dream that was such a mess it never got released. I would much rather see something smaller in scope with more polish this time around. No one wants a repeat of BF4.

And once they have a solid foundation they can begin expanding the featureset with DLC.

There's evidence we're getting a repeat of BF4 anyways
 

Prototype

Member
Saber swings look fucking terrible.

This game needs a lot more time in the oven than its getting.

Yeah, that looked rough.

That Hero gameplay looked terrible. Janky, repetitive, unpolished and just altogether poor looking. The animations and overall hit detection when using the Hero's really needs work.

That's janky

The running animation of Luke looks really bad tbh.

Edit: both luke and vader have some akward looking animations.


i have'nt been keeping up with the game, I just watched some of these videos and I agree.. it doesn't look good right now.

Camera is way too close, and the movement of both the camera and the player characters is off.
 

OEM

Member
That hero gameplay, was he killing actual people or AI? easy 8-10 kills if I am not mistaken. How is that fun?
 
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