YianGaruga
Banned
This might actually be a bug after the last maintenance since it's only affecting some, but who knows.
One of the jeeps and one of the tanks at least show only 1 offline stock for me while I have 10+ online.
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MGSV: Konami Offline Tax for players who opt out of FOBs
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This might actually be a bug after the last maintenance since it's only affecting some, but who knows.
One of the jeeps and one of the tanks at least show only 1 offline stock for me while I have 10+ online.
Ok I haven't played MGS V since last week so I'm sure I've been taxed by now.
But if I play again today, can I just refuse terms and conditions when starting the game and dodge all this bs? I don't care about FOB (at mission 28) and this thread is slightly doing my head in with resource caps, losing GMP etc.
But if I play again today, can I just refuse terms and conditions when starting the game and dodge all this bs? I don't care about FOB (at mission 28) and this thread is slightly doing my head in with resource caps, losing GMP etc.
NoblesseOblige
Banned
Since when? 10 hours ago all my vehicles were at 3.
Maintenance
Member
Sigh.
Dr Funfrock
Member
I just want to enjoy the game and I haven't made a FOB yet, and I'm about to start mission 30. I've always played offline because it significantly reduced the loading times on everything. Last night, I forgot to go offline and it wouldn't let me progress unless I made a FOB, so I had to go offline again to play.
Don't really care about those two trophies so when I'm done I'll just delete it.
Don't really care about those two trophies so when I'm done I'll just delete it.
YianGaruga
Banned
Server maintenance a few hours ago, which specifically mentioned "adjustments to storage limits"
This is really fucked up. Nothing like not letting the player play the way they want to. When will publishers realize that not everyone is into online? What they are doing is practically DRM. I myself enjoy SP in these games and could give 2 shits about the online modes. But to avoid penalty, I won't log out of the server I guess.
NoblesseOblige
Banned
I see. Didn't realize there was a maintenance and/or update since I played it last last night.
The fact that they can alter these things on the fly, as they see fit, is a bit shitty.
LoveCake
Member
They have still taken some of my GMP though, even though i don't have a FOB or have ever played MGSV online.
I don't want to play online because i don't want people coming in & stealing my stuff when i have zero control.
Stop being so scared and you wouldnt have an issue
NoblesseOblige
Banned
Odd. I actually want people to come in and try to steal my stuff. But it just won't happen. I've had literally 0 attempts made on my FOB, and I have done 0 to fiddle with the security settings, so it's at whatever the default is.
LoveCake
Member
Ok, but if i am NOT going to play online at all, the GMP & items in my single player are still limited, then there is the issue with stuff getting stolen that get taken from my single player game.
its been like 5 days since I or any of the people I am supporting have been invaded
Jeffolation
Banned
I had been wondering why when I logged in yesterday my GMP immediately went into the red. It seems the more I play this game, the less I understand wtf is actually going on,
MiamiWesker
Member
This in no way excuses the stupid practices Konami is doing but some of you are really making this way worse than it has to be. Why are you offline, you are afraid of some bogey man coming and stealing stuff. Do the FOB, build up the defenses and I guarantee you will EARN more than you lose. Every time I log in I get gifts from all my defenses.
There should be zero worry, just play like normal and you will be rewarded.
There should be zero worry, just play like normal and you will be rewarded.
Facism
Member
Just reads like you're playing a f2p mobile game, to be honest.
Sorry, it's just not that great of a thing in my experience, nor apparently any of my online buddies, as they've dropped the game because of this continued nonsense.
Jeevesmeister
Banned
Weird, bummer. On the other hand I've put barely any time into the FOB stuff, haven't bought any MB coins, (yet I have hundreds from bonuses) and am basically loaded with resources/GMP flowing in on a regular basis. Got like 2 or 3 platforms for each section and done a few infiltrations (managed to do a 4/4 last night!), the event, and even though I've been invaded a few times the losses have been pretty negligible.
I'd just suck it up and take the L honestly. With the verticality the FOB stuff is a nice challenge compared to the horizontal level design of the rest of the game and some of the endgame research is pretty fantastic to dick around with.
I'd just suck it up and take the L honestly. With the verticality the FOB stuff is a nice challenge compared to the horizontal level design of the rest of the game and some of the endgame research is pretty fantastic to dick around with.
I'm only on mission 15 or so... stuff like this makes me not want to continue...
Honestly, this hasn't felt like a "Metal Gear" game to me... as someone who played 1-3 back to back and then took 2 days off work to plow through MGS4 in 2 sittings.
holy fucking shit
Honestly, this hasn't felt like a "Metal Gear" game to me... as someone who played 1-3 back to back and then took 2 days off work to plow through MGS4 in 2 sittings.
holy fucking shit
PetriP-TNT
Member
Maybe you just don't see them anymore online because they are too afraid to play online?
lmao
NoblesseOblige
Banned
I've never played any mobile game besides Fallout Shelters (which was 'beat' in a week and hasn't been touched since), but if MGSV is how they feel then maybe I should start playing more. Because I've put in about 150 hours and I am still enjoying it while I wrap up that 100%.
YianGaruga
Banned
It's funny that people in this thread are using the same defense for online only experiences as publishers
"No guys, it's actually great and everyone benefits from it! It just wouldn't be possible without online"
It's great that you're so aligned with what they want you to think, but some people do not think it's great and do not like it and if there was an option for them to experience the game like they want, yours wouldn't be changed one bit
"No guys, it's actually great and everyone benefits from it! It just wouldn't be possible without online"
It's great that you're so aligned with what they want you to think, but some people do not think it's great and do not like it and if there was an option for them to experience the game like they want, yours wouldn't be changed one bit
Facism
Member
They've moved onto other things, but some of them i'm playing MGO with. Despite it's flaws, it's good fun.
NoblesseOblige
Banned
What's a "Metal Gear" game feel like exactly? Because to me each game feels significantly different from the others.
They are (attemping) to using a similar gameplay loop that games like the Supercell games use to keep people playing.
https://lionoftheblogosphere.wordpress.com/2013/01/01/psychological-review-of-clash-of-clans/
If it was a F2P game, I could excuse it, but this is supposed to be a AAA premium product.
I have been playing the game every day since release, probably 50 hours into the game and I have yet to be invaded. I'm on PS4 so maybe PC folks get massacred.
Such an amazing game I think it would be a shame if people got turned away from the fear of losing some GMP.
And frankly I think some of the issues the OP is having isn't even related to any of this.
Such an amazing game I think it would be a shame if people got turned away from the fear of losing some GMP.
And frankly I think some of the issues the OP is having isn't even related to any of this.
It doesn't for me. I only managed to get 4 missions in until I got bored and sold it.
NoblesseOblige
Banned
They're doing a shoddy job of emulating that then. It doesn't feel like a multiplayer game at all to me. Maybe because my base still haven't been invaded (seriously, would someone invade me please).
Rogue Agent
Banned
Because of the painful lag when using the iDroid, at least in my experience.
Better yet, they could have just designed the game to also accommodate those who don't want to mess with all of this stuff so that they can be left alone to enjoy the story and play their own way. You know, like games have been doing since forever?
Most likely the lack of cutscenes and codecs. The gameplay is 110% Metal Gear.
NoblesseOblige
Banned
Would it have made any difference to you? From what I've seen you say, I doubt it.
RevolverRoden
Member
What do online resources do?
Nothing, they are just there for people to steal.
RevolverRoden
Member
This isn't an issue anymore. At least for me on PS4
NoblesseOblige
Banned
They allow you to have more than 200k (I think that's the offline cap). It's actually what got me to start connecting more, because I kept hitting the resource cap on 2 resources. Also my plants kept hitting the 3k cap.
It is still a minor issue on the PS4. At least for me there's a somewhat noticeable lag. Could be my connection though.
The game's slog-fest design pushed me away before the patch, but others enjoy the core game and have a right to be pissed about it being affected by this. Just as I have a right to comment about a game that I bought in a discussion about it.
RevolverRoden
Member
What good is stealing them if they don't do anything other than give you more for others to steal? I'm sure there's something you can do with online resources
so we are looping back to "lol scrubs too scared to do FOB, just join in you get more benefits" again, disregarding people who just don't want to deal with that disgusting free to play mechanics, and feel nothing wrong with Konami enforcing more punishments/ nerfs to people who don't want to be a part of it. sigh.
Rogue Agent
Banned
Sill an issue for me, unfortunately. Hence playing offline. It's a relief that I managed to finish the game once without this issue.
astroturfing
Member
what is going on with this game? i've played it about 10-15 hours (slowly inching my way), and i still don't even understand what an FOB is or what MB coins are. seriously WTF is all this convoluted and confusing online/motherbase crap? i want to know if i even should keep going or not.. can i realistically beat this game without taking part in any of this nonsense? i just want to sneak from mission to mission to see how the story goes.. too much to ask?
should i give up and move on to Witcher 3 finally?
should i give up and move on to Witcher 3 finally?
NoblesseOblige
Banned
I'd say keep going until you're not having fun. I didn't experience most the issues people are presenting here. It could be due to my play-style, or I'm just more apathetic to it, but nobody can really answer whether you should quit now or not but you. I also avoided these threads until progressing to the end of the main story, so I was ignorant to whatever the current zeitgeist surrounding it was.
astroturfing
Member
but will i have the needed equipment etc for the later missions, if i don't play online at all or worry about motherbase or fultoning the right stuff? (seriously fultoning is silly IMO and i don't want to do it).
Solid Raiden
Neo Member
This is rediculous and while it in no way makes Konami's actions justifiable the fear people have of FOB is also unwarranted. I know that it's a scary idea but in over 100 hours of playtime I was only invaded twice, both intruders were stopped and I lost a single recruit. Meanwhile, defending other player' FOBs is fun, you get to feel good because you are helping other players and you get rewarded a crap ton more resources than you'd ever lose to an invaded fob. If you don't want to play FOBs because of another reason, that's fine. But there is no reason to be afraid of playing online and I think everyone who has played online would agree with me.
tryagainlater
Member
Yea, can't believe people are saying this is ok. Even if it doesn't affect you that much, it's still pretty shitty. Glad I finished up this game before a lot of this shit started although the FOB stuff has been bad since day one.
NoblesseOblige
Banned
You can probably clear the game with your starting gun and pistol. I eventually unlocked and customized a tranq. sniper rifle and added it to my usual load-out. Other than that, I think you might only really need a rocket launcher for a couple missions, and that's just if you want to make it easy. Online isn't needed for any of that. As for fultoning, I fulton everything. So I don't know how difficult it is to proceed without doing it.