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Star Wars: The Force Awakens takes over Entertainment Weekly

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Beelzebufo said:
It's on the poster and in the trailer. It's not a moon, it's a weaponized planet.

(Expect a funny homage line like "That's not a Death Star. That's a moon.")
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I have to watched the trailer about 50 times and nope didn't see a weaponized planet. And there is something on the poster that looks like a Death Starish thing but it doesn't scream weaponized planet to me. Frankly don't know what it is
 
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Jason Kidd murdered my dog in cold blood!
For those of you new to the internet (welcome!!), if you care about avoiding spoilers for Movie X, then don't go into a thread about Movie X. This has been the case for 20+ years now.
 
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commish said:
For those of you new to the internet (welcome!!), if you care about avoiding spoilers for Movie X, then don't go into a thread about Movie X. This has been the case for 20+ years now.
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Back in the day, those Space Jam spoilers were fucking everywhere.
 
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JB1981 said:
I have to watched the trailer about 50 times and nope didn't see a weaponized planet. And there is something on the poster that looks like a Death Starish thing but it doesn't scream weaponized planet to me. Frankly don't know what it is
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If you want to avoid spoilers, avoid the threads talking about the movie. It isn't that difficult.
 
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ViewtifulJC

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On the Death Star thing, its not called "Death Star 3", but at the end of the day its a giant Imperial superweapon where the climax takes place. Frankly, I'm surprised people didn't think the movie would end with something like that. They're trying to reintroduce Star Wars to the general public, how else would you end your new standalone movie but with a big war in the stars? What else could give your new Star Wars film the sense of finality and closure, and have such a simple concept that any child in the audience can grasp("Giant bad guy weapon, Rebels vs Empire, got it")? People can point to Empire Strikes Back not having one, but its a different context. As a sequel/middle chapter, Empire had the benefit of not having to start small building up its characters; it could assume our empathy and have its biggest battle right in the beginning(same thing with Revenge of the Sith). Also, since it knows you're gonna see the next one anyway, it can end with a non-ending, with our heroes not accomplishing a damn thing and there's no sense of finality whatsoever.

The Force Awakens can't do that. It can build on the past and it can point to the future, but it needs to be a satisfying movie in its own right, with a beginning middle and end, with character arcs that aren't closed but are in a very different place then they were in the beginning, with an ending that provides a cathartic sense of closure but also points the way to further adventures.
 
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Jack The Nipper said:
I would assume they want you to think that but probably isn't true. But would follow the old movies even more if so
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They already showed Kylo Ren sans helmet in the trailers, they're not trying to make you think anything.

JB1981 said:
I have to watched the trailer about 50 times and nope didn't see a weaponized planet. And there is something on the poster that looks like a Death Starish thing but it doesn't scream weaponized planet to me. Frankly don't know what it is
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The planet has been in every trailer, granted it's never obvious what exactly it is. Still, this is officially released info from Lucasfilms so I'm still going with "not a spoiler." There is a reason why some people go on media black out, and it's not just to avoid spoilers.
 
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ClosingADoor said:
If you want to avoid spoilers, avoid the threads talking about the movie. It isn't that difficult.
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I think the spoiler people were joking, but just in case they weren't... get your heads out of your asses morons! You're only spoiling yourself by being stupid. You will have no sympathy from me, only umbrage.

UMBRAGE!!!!!
 
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Bobby Roberts

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Occurred to anyone that "building a better Death Star" is a metaphor for "Making another Star Wars movie?"

Because that's what it actually is.
 
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evi

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If it really is a new Death Star esque superweapon, that is disappointing. Hoping they pull it off.
 
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ViewtifulJC

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Bobby Roberts said:
Occurred to anyone that "building a better Death Star" is a metaphor for "Making another Star Wars movie?"

Because that's what it actually is.
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I'm sure it could mean that, but they did mention we get some details on the actual Starkiller Base

We go light on spoilers, but Abrams does tease a few character details, including background on Lupita Nyong’o’s alien pirate Maz Kanata, what name Princess Leia is known by now, and what we need to know about Starkiller Base, the planet-sized weapon glimpsed in the movie’s poster.
 
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Sephzilla

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I don't get why people are so hung up about another Death Star. The first Death Star was near unstoppable aside from one flaw. Second Death Star was destroyed mostly due to the Emperor's arrogance and underestimating the Rebellion. Why not make a third Death Star that addresses the issues of the first two? From an in-universe perspective it makes sense to try to refine and perfect the design instead of scrapping it.
 
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Bobby Roberts

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ViewtifulJC said:
I'm sure it could mean that
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It does mean that. That's exactly what it means. That it can also refer to Starkiller Base is a nice bit of business, but Starkiller Base isn't a Death Star. "Building a better Death Star" is just a cutesy way to describe JJ Abrams in charge of a project intended to blow up huge.

But nobody even considered the possibility because they were too eager to fistfight over whether a spoiler got posted or not.

It's no moon. its a metaphor.
 
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Sou Da

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Bobby Roberts said:
It does mean that. That's exactly what it means. That it can also refer to Starkiller Base is a nice bit of business, but Starkiller Base isn't a Death Star. "Building a better Death Star" is just a cutesy way to describe JJ Abrams in charge of a project intended to blow up huge.

But nobody even considered the possibility because they were too eager to fistfight over whether a spoiler got posted or not.

It's no moon. its a metaphor.
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Fascinating lore behind this project.
 
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Scientist Supreme!

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ViewtifulJC said:
On the Death Star thing, its not called "Death Star 3", but at the end of the day its a giant Imperial superweapon where the climax takes place. Frankly, I'm surprised people didn't think the movie would end with something like that. They're trying to reintroduce Star Wars to the general public, how else would you end your new standalone movie but with a big war in the stars? What else could give your new Star Wars film the sense of finality and closure, and have such a simple concept that any child in the audience can grasp("Giant bad guy weapon, Rebels vs Empire, got it")? People can point to Empire Strikes Back not having one, but its a different context. As a sequel/middle chapter, Empire had the benefit of not having to start small building up its characters; it could assume our empathy and have its biggest battle right in the beginning(same thing with Revenge of the Sith). Also, since it knows you're gonna see the next one anyway, it can end with a non-ending, with our heroes not accomplishing a damn thing and there's no sense of finality whatsoever.

The Force Awakens can't do that. It can build on the past and it can point to the future, but it needs to be a satisfying movie in its own right, with a beginning middle and end, with character arcs that aren't closed but are in a very different place then they were in the beginning, with an ending that provides a cathartic sense of closure but also points the way to further adventures.
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I just find this completely disappointing.
 
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ViewtifulJC

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Scientist Supreme! said:
I just find this completely disappointing.
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Good. Now you can go in expecting a Star Wars movie instead of whatever you imagined in your head. Realistic expectations and all that.
 
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Oersted

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ViewtifulJC said:
On the Death Star thing, its not called "Death Star 3", but at the end of the day its a giant Imperial superweapon where the climax takes place. Frankly, I'm surprised people didn't think the movie would end with something like that. They're trying to reintroduce Star Wars to the general public, how else would you end your new standalone movie but with a big war in the stars? What else could give your new Star Wars film the sense of finality and closure, and have such a simple concept that any child in the audience can grasp("Giant bad guy weapon, Rebels vs Empire, got it")? People can point to Empire Strikes Back not having one, but its a different context. As a sequel/middle chapter, Empire had the benefit of not having to start small building up its characters; it could assume our empathy and have its biggest battle right in the beginning(same thing with Revenge of the Sith). Also, since it knows you're gonna see the next one anyway, it can end with a non-ending, with our heroes not accomplishing a damn thing and there's no sense of finality whatsoever.

The Force Awakens can't do that. It can build on the past and it can point to the future, but it needs to be a satisfying movie in its own right, with a beginning middle and end, with character arcs that aren't closed but are in a very different place then they were in the beginning, with an ending that provides a cathartic sense of closure but also points the way to further adventures.
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What else would you bring the closure like third times the Death Star? Dunno.....
 
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JJ being the auteur he is knows that a good film is built upon people seeing things they've already liked before.
 
Tathanen

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Does anyone else feel like Harrison Ford is cosplaying as his younger self in this movie? The vest, any time he holds that gun, it just feels really hammed up to me.
 
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Bobby Roberts

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Sou Da said:
Depends. How much longer you got on GAF?
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Nobody gives that much of a shit about either this particular discussion branch or that specific question, dude.

Scientist Supreme! said:
I guess. I just expected a little more risk or something along those lines.
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Look at it this way, maybe: How many big adventure movies (be they sci-fi adventure, action-adventure, spy movies, etc.) don't feature the hero (or heroes) infiltrating or invading the bad guy's secret base/lair/ship?

Not a lot, really. Not to say it NEEDS to be done, but there is something to there being an identifiable location/goal at which the final confrontation will happen.

Starkiller Base isn't a Death Star. It's Death Star-ish, I guess. But so are a lot of "secret lairs" in film and storytelling.
 
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