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Digital Foundry: Star Wars Battlefront Face Off
- Thread starter Javin98
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Well you answered yourself there.
It should be set to whatever is neutral, so no added blurring or ringing. This is usually at 0 or 50. If you set it to 0 and it's really smeary, set it to 50.
Also check for other edge enhancement settings and whatnot and make sure that stuff is off.
Also it could just be that you woke up today in an aliasing-sensitive mood. Sometimes I can handle 360 Halo 3 no problem, other days I cut my eyes on the jaggies.
Green Yoshi
Member
So they can stay on PC if they have higher standard. That's not that complicated. Console will never offer the same standard of the PC. Time to accept this thing.
AgentP
Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
Turn the sharpness and contrast down, 100 is bad.
I'm planning to keep testing the PS4 and XO versions for frame-rate issues. With a variable multiplayer game like this, it's hard to really make a final call on performance without a larger sample size. If I run into any additional issues, I'll try to capture and get the info out for those interested.
Game looks glorious on PC, but the players aren't there
This is exactly why I bought it on PS4. New MP shooters seem to vanish after a while.
I'm pretty sure you both are talking about the exact same thing, just that he got hung up on your use of the words "scaled down".
Since it is rendered below native, it then gets scaled up to fit the image. And if it was at 110% it would then be scaled down, aka downsampled.
Unless I'm missing something here. ¯\_(ツ
_/¯Game looks glorious on PC, but the players aren't there
Tons of players playing on PC so not sure what you're talking about.
cyberheater
PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 PS4 Xbone PS4 PS4
I play it on a 100 inch projector screen. It looks great. You must have the sharpness turned up.
You mean if you don't have a PC? This is one of the best optimized PC games I've ever played.
Giriath_89
Member
I think there should have been a full screen comparison between XB1 and PS4 so people can see the difference in resolution. Side-by-side isn't nearly as effective at illustrating that difference.
That said, you've done some great coverage on Battlefront, Dark!
That said, you've done some great coverage on Battlefront, Dark!
When is that ever not the case?
The only noticeable framerate drops I've encountered are at the end of the AT-ST training mission, which is odd because it's after the action is done, and in 40 player Walker Assault matches on Endor when most players are on screen shooting the AT-AT with Orbital Strikes coming in and lots of trees falling and even then it stays mid 50s. The performance in this game is truly remarkable.
One other bit of training mission weirdness, it seems that LoD transitions are way worse on those than in an MP match. Beggar's Canyon and the Tattooine Fighter Sqaudron map look almost identical with the latter having more players and more AI but more subtle pop in.
Assassin's Creed Unity and maybe The Witcher 3? I'm not sure.
Thanks!
Also, you should be able to open each image in its own tab. I agree that flipping between them works well.
Batman: Arkham Knight, for one.
One thing I also need to commend DICE for is how they've maintained many of the effects that are lost when games target 60fps. There are good levels of AF and camera/object motion blur are full effect. Those are usually some of the first things to go when a dev aims for 60.
Dictator93
Member
WHAT
I mean, unless your PC has a 2GB Graphics card, the PC version actually still offers better 30fps experience than consoles. But that does not mean of course that the game is at all up to snuff on PC. I consider it shit-tier still.
Yeah, exactly.
I am curious, what does it look like at rest on PS4 and xb1 in endor forest? How does the FXAA hold up while the wind blows through the vegetation if the player stays still, do you see lots of shifting and popping pixels? That would be another usual suspect case for FXAA.
Yeah, that is pretty awesome. Also, the game seems to use POM decals for the AT-ST foot prints in snow. That is pretty cool.
Saucycarpdog
Member
Justifying choice of platform? Where did I try to justify a choice a platform in my post? The guy I quoted was trying to justify his platform of choice with an argument that makes no sense in a technical analysis thread.
Did you even read my post before responding?
You can see some aliasing on more distant vegetation but it looks quite clean up close to the player. Much more prominent in first person than third and when the map is in bright, direct sunlight to increase high contrast edges.
Primethius
Banned
Does it now? I still own the game and wouldn't mind replaying it if I can get a good locked 30 FPS. At launch, it was awful all around for me.
All I said is that I'm preferring playing on my xbox with my friends on there. Whats with the amount of butt hurt you've gotten from my post?
Maintenance
Member
Witcher 3? What? You mean the 20fps mess on the swamps was the best way to play the game?
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Depends on the TV, sometimes yes. Some manufacturers make it so the no sharpening happens at 50 (half way) or for some it's at 10. There's no hard rule. My suggestion is to check where the sharpness is set on your tv when you switch it to a Cinema preset. That's most likely a number you want in other presets too.
Your color/contrast setting could be too high too.
Batman seemed pretty much locked 30 on PS4 for as long as I played it (about an hour). Also by the time the performance patch came out, most people were done with game.
Clarkus Darkus
Member
In my case it's PS4 > PC as my gaming laptop( GT640M,i5,4GBRAM) would run it worse than the console.
Everyone has different PC's so the PC > console doesnt always apply.
Mind blown.
There has been a patch that drastically improved performance on my system at least. 30fps lock is totally achievable, like consoles but 60fps locked is not.
ISee
Member
And I took what you've said and added a bit of sarcasm to it, not butthurt. I even explained in my post why I did it. So just reread the 2nd part.
I think the terminology needs some clarification?
On PS4, the final output is 1080p, the hud and menu elements would be rendered at the native resolution while the 3D elements would be rendered at 900p and scaled up to 1080p.
Don't have an idea what the PC resolution scale means though.
I'd like to know how you came to that conclusion. I'm not done with it that's for sure, and by all the pics in the PC screen thread it seems others aren't either.
Wowfunhappy
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Why is there any pop-in on PC when using the highest settings? This drives me nuts!
I hate pop in. Pop in is the REASON I decided to build a PC. I'll turn down other settings if I have to, including resolution, but I need to have the option!
I don't care about this game specifically, but I hope this isn't a problem in Mirror's Edge Catalyst.
I hate pop in. Pop in is the REASON I decided to build a PC. I'll turn down other settings if I have to, including resolution, but I need to have the option!
I don't care about this game specifically, but I hope this isn't a problem in Mirror's Edge Catalyst.
The percentage bar basically controls the internal resolution. So if you're outputting at 1080p and set it to 83%, it's roughly 1600x900 internally. Since the internal scaling capability of Frostbite exceeds that of most LCD panels, you get a better image.
It's just duplicating what we see on consoles. Monitor receives a native resolution, but 3D is rendered internally at a lower resolution and upscaled to 1080p. If you go OVER 100% on the slider, though, it starts rendering at a HIGHER resolution which means everything is DOWNSCALED to 1080p. If you do 200% on the bar it should double the horizontal and vertical values which would actually be 4 times the resolution.
I don't think it'll be an issue there since MEC will be focusing on urban environments with lots of flat, glassy surfaces.
What are you talking about?
NullPointer
Member
So that's what that is.
Its a pretty trippy effect when you do notice it, though its rare to do so in the middle of the action. Almost like when Neo flexes in the end of the Matrix and the world flexes too - you'll run up some craggy hillside and see the ground almost warp-rolling as you move.
I don't care about the actual numbers here as the game looks nothing short of phenomenal, with the forest moon having IQ that makes many of my 30fps games blush, all without any noticeable slowdowns in the action. DICE has woven some magic here to pull off these huge spaces filled with players and effects so smoothly on the consoles.
Maybe try reading the article?
My post was a joke in case anyone takes it seriously (hinted by the exclamation point). It's a slight thing that favor's the XB1 but not enough for anyone to choose it over PS4.
nelsonroyale
Member
They mention that there is some additional vegetation, but don't really exemplify it in the video, nor ellaborate much in the article. To what extent is this and why I wonder? Considering performance is marginally better on PS4.
It's a pretty rare thing that I only noticed in that one specific map. Not really sure what's up with that, to be honest.
Well now TW3 runs better on PS4 and looks better obviously, but even at launch some would prefer higher res over more stable fps (and I personally didn't find TW3's performance to be too bad at launch on PS4, only bothered me at certain areas, I would much rather get full HD) so I wouldn't say it was necessarily a win for either, depens on your preference, today obviously it's a clear win for PS4.
Unity is really the outliner here, don't know what happened there, though they did manage to improve the PS4 version and the two are very close, but yea, Ubi messed up.
FranXico
Member
My comment was not directed to you, and was posted in agreement.
Hence why I referred to "people" in general.
For clarity, "twice as nonsensical" was intended to imply that if it already is silly to defend a platform choice when a game fails to run adequately on said platform, it is doubly so when a game runs equally well across the board.
Sorry if my intent was not clear.
Journey
Banned
jellies_two
Member
One of the most uninteresting df articles for a while saying basically this: every platform is very good, everyone gets a good experience.
.. and yet the replies are more than averagely unfriendly argumentative and generally nasty.
.. and yet the replies are more than averagely unfriendly argumentative and generally nasty.
DOWN
Banned
Consoles have limited resources kiddo. If you have a certain standard of graphical fidelity in mind, you compromise somewhere. You can get any game to 1080p60, but that can cost the game's visual identity. It isn't a magical unlimited resource box.
thelastword
Banned
They did the very same thing for Fallout 4, they said there was more detail on the XB1 version in one area, they never showed where that extra detail was, up to this day. Like here, more vegetation on Endor, where is it exactly? Funny, they can always pinpoint extra detail on an xbox version of a game, better AO in rivals, better detail in a section of fallout 4, better vegetation in endor, but could not see the extra foliage in GTA5 till it was pointed out.....
Also, I saw this 750ti video that leadbetter did, and I would not say that the combo can't keep up with it. Some of the settings are higher than the settings on PS4 and who knows how taxing these higher effects are. Funny that leadbetter said the 750ti can't keep up whilst the video was showing a solid 60fps as he mentioned it. From what I'm seeing, the PS4 dropped much more frames towards the end of the video, but I guess this is how DF evaluates things on their end.
Because people would then say that game is unoptimized piece of shit, because they cant run it on Ultra with 980 ...
But i agree that there should be option to tweak it via console.