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PlayStation 4 sales (sold-through) hit 30.2 million worldwide

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GnawtyDog

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Success is great but I doubt we will walk away from the PS4 saying it had a library [of original games] that comes close to the PS2.
 
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Hopefully this means even more support :D. I have already so much to look forward to in 2016 that my wallet is gonna cry.
 
Wow they've stated that half of the install base subscribes? That's pretty damn good.

They didn't say that. Earlier this year when PS4 was at 20 million, they confirmed about 10 million Plus subs, but the 10 million doesn't exclude PS3/Vita era subscribers.

Tldr; MP being gated away by Plus sells more subs than free games ever did.
 
I don't think SF is higher profile than The Order, which was hyped to the moon and back. Sure, there are big games coming out in 2016, but 2015 has been great as well:

http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/metascore/year/ps4/filtered

Or perhaps this is more saying (most discussed): http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/metascore/discussed/ps4/filtered?sort=desc

The upcoming games will get hyped, but it's sometime easy to forget that 2015 was actually a fantastic year for a lot of gamers.

Of course SFV is more hype \bigger than The Order .
One is a new IP that could not even sell 1 million WW .
SFV is going to be the fighting game the pushes the tournaments for the next few years .
With it selling around 4 million last gen .

Success is great but I doubt we will walk away from the PS4 saying it had a library [of original games] that comes close to the PS2.

Give it a few years , for us JRPG fans next year looks better than most of last gen .
 
Xbox One.

US is only region, leveraging strong brand image from last gen with (thus far) very aggressive deals, bundling etc, where MS is taking a decent slice of market and getting decent split of big multi-platform title sales.

Next best is probably Mexico going by what I've read.

Tehn there's UK but sales split show more PS4 owners buying multiplatform games than Xbox.

After those two PS4 is dominant pretty much everywhere else.

So long as MA can hang on to decent US sales PS4 will look weaker there than ROW.
After US, Canada and the UK probably the biggest region for Xbox is Mexico. Microsoft knew how to cater towards us since the OG Xbox by showing they gave a crap from the start.

After two decades of mediocre efforts from Nintendo and still absolutely nothing official from Sony until around 2010, MS grabbed this market by the balls with aggressive marketing and embracing every corner of the map with official presence. By the time Sony reacted midway through the PS3 Mexico was Xbox 360 territory hardcore. Gears and Halo here are colossal. Back when Halo 5 launched I saw ads from newspapers, to tv, and even bus stops. They are relentless.

Oh and never to underestimate the power of dubbing games to spanish (latin american spanish, not hand me down Spaniard spanish we loathe so much here) Microsoft started dubbing their games since Halo 2 in 2004. Sony didn't dub their first game for this market until Killzone 3 in 2011.

Not that I care, I play all my games in english and a few in japanese but for many its important.

Microsoft owns Mexico because they earned it while Sony took forever to give a damn but they've gotten better.
 

Joni

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So the Nintendo 64 will be passed by the end of the year. Curious if it can pass the super Nintendo by end of 2016.
 

TBiddy

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Of course SFV is more hype than The Order .
One is a new IP that could not even sell 1 million WW .
SFV is going to be the fighting game the pushes the tournaments for the next few years .
With it selling around 4 million last gen .

I don't agree. I might be wrong, but in my mind Street Fighter is sorta like Sonic, Turtles and other things from our childhood. SFV will outsell The Order, but that doesn't take much..

My point was that The Order was stupendously hyped before launch and was considered, if memory serves, to be one of the system sellers of the PS4. That didn't happen, but the expectations were enormous, which is why I think it was a high profile game.
 
I don't agree. I might be wrong, but in my mind Street Fighter is sorta like Sonic, Turtles and other things from our childhood. SFV will outsell The Order, but that doesn't take much..

My point was that The Order was stupendously hyped before launch and was considered, if memory serves, to be one of the system sellers of the PS4. That didn't happen, but the expectations were enormous, which is why I think it was a high profile game.

You remember wrong .
The order was getting rip to pieces every where at least a year before it launch .
From websites to message boards etc etc .
Also the order being seen as a system seller is the same for many games SFV being one also .
 

RibMan

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After US, Canada and the UK probably the biggest region for Xbox is Mexico. Microsoft knew how to cater towards us since the OG Xbox by showing they gave a crap from the start.

After two decades of mediocre efforts from Nintendo and still absolutely nothing official from Sony until around 2010, MS grabbed this market by the balls with aggressive marketing and embracing every corner of the map with official presence. By the time Sony reacted midway through the PS3 Mexico was Xbox 360 territory hardcore. Gears and Halo here are colossal. Back when Halo 5 launched I saw ads from newspapers, to tv, and even bus stops. They are relentless.

Oh and never to underestimate the power of dubbing games to spanish (latin american spanish, not hand me down Spaniard spanish we loathe so much here) Microsoft started dubbing their games since Halo 2 in 2004. Sony didn't dub their first game for this market until Killzone 3 in 2011.

Not that I care, I play all my games in english and a few in japanese but for many its important.

Microsoft owns Mexico because they earned it while Sony took forever to give a damn but they've gotten better.

I may have missed a post, but did we get actual sales numbers that show the Xbox brand is bigger in Mexico than the PlayStation brand?
 

RexNovis

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My point was that The Order was stupendously hyped before launch

HAH! What? Where the hell were you prior to release. That game was shit in constantly for months. You couldn't have a single thread about it without it turning into a hate fest. The vast majority had a major hate boner for the game for damn near a year leading up to release. What the hell planet were you on?
 

Fredrik

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Congrats! Really amazing figures with so few AAA 1st party games out, shows how important multiplats are, it basically got these figures from being the best at multiplats.
 

ryushe

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Success is great but I doubt we will walk away from the PS4 saying it had a library [of original games] that comes close to the PS2.
This. I'm happy with my PS4 and all and super happy it's doing well, but as a PC gamer as well as an XB1 owner who's a huge fan of their first-party output thus far, I'm struggling to understand how the PS4 is doing so well, especially considering the only thing it has going for it (for me) is Destiny and Bloodborne.
 

TBiddy

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HAH! What? Where the hell were you prior to release. That game was shit in constantly for months. You couldn't have a single thread about it without it turning into a hate fest. What the hell planet were you on?

If we disregard the usual hyperbole and angry language from you, there was a lot of hype for The Order, especially because of the way it looked, even here on Neogaf. Might not have been the most hyped game, but nonetheless.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=967454
 

Vegito

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Damn impressive. Sony was just on point from the word go. From the initial announcement, to the first e3 conference. Pricing. No bullshit policies. Amazing pr. They were upfront about everything and they deserve all the success.
 

RexNovis

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If we disregard the usual hyperbole and angry language from you, there was a lot of hype for The Order, especially because of the way it looked, even here on Neogaf. Might not have been the most hyped game, but nonetheless.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=967454

You are completely disregarding the massive hate train that started the second the revealed gameplay and continued until release. This was shortly after the initial reveal. You are basically referencing the only period of time in which the community did not loathe the game with the burning fire if a thousand suns. Go look at any of the threads referencing the order in the 6 months leading up to its release and then we'll talk.
 

FATALITY

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Congrats! Really amazing figures with so few AAA 1st party games out, shows how important multiplats are, it basically got these figures from being the best at multiplats.

There are currently 822 games on this list (56 of which have been confirmed as free-to-play)

Exclusive = 91
Sony exclusive = 98
Console exclusive = 170
Timed = 21
Multiplatform = 442
Total = 822

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_4_games

im tired of these shitty comments
 

Yeoman

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Really impressive, I'm glad Sony have had so much success with the PS4. I think they really checked all the right boxes with it.
 
This. I'm happy with my PS4 and all and super happy it's doing well, but as a PC gamer as well as an XB1 owner who's a huge fan of their first-party output thus far, I'm struggling to understand how the PS4 is doing so well, especially considering the only thing it has going for it (for me) is Destiny and Bloodborne.

Seems like many gaffers will never understand that exclusives don't really sell hardware anymore except for Nintendo games.

FYI stuff like Infamous, BB, Helldivers, Driveclub and Until Dawn alone are good reasons to buy the system.

But none of that matters, because it's all subjective at the end of the day :)
 

Atwa

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I am amazed it sells so well, considering that Sony isn't doing anything. Their first party output for the console is frankly embarrassing.

Which makes these sales kind of worrying. Sony doesn't even need to try, and I fear they will become complacent.
 

Fat4all

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This. I'm happy with my PS4 and all and super happy it's doing well, but as a PC gamer as well as an XB1 owner who's a huge fan of their first-party output thus far, I'm struggling to understand how the PS4 is doing so well, especially considering the only thing it has going for it (for me) is Destiny and Bloodborne.

It must be the Illuminati.
 
Incredible great numbers for a great console, congratulations Sony this is my first PlayStation console ever and the first console that I was able to buy with my hard work :)
 
I am amazed it sells so well, considering that Sony isn't doing anything. Their first party output for the console is frankly embarrassing.

Which makes these sales kind of worrying. Sony doesn't even need to try, and I fear they will become complacent.

Sony is bringing games just like everyone else.
Yes there big IPs have not hit yet and most of there new IPs really have not taken off.
Still you can't say they are not bringing out games.
 

Rymuth

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If we disregard the usual hyperbole and angry language from you, there was a lot of hype for The Order, especially because of the way it looked, even here on Neogaf. Might not have been the most hyped game, but nonetheless.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=967454
Disregarding your thinly veiled comments of passive-aggressivness in every thread I see you in, you're changing the narrative. First it was stupidly hyped and now it's not?

Also, you're using one thread from GAF as proof of your point? What's next? Using one post to perhaps suggest The Order was more hyped than Destiny and Titanfall combined?

Stop Bashing the Order it's getting Old

Ready at Dawn founder talks about negative The Order: 1886 previews
 

Javin98

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I am amazed it sells so well, considering that Sony isn't doing anything. Their first party output for the console is frankly embarrassing.

Which makes these sales kind of worrying. Sony doesn't even need to try, and I fear they will become complacent.
Oh, there we go. The "Sony is getting arrogant" and "PS4 has no games" comments in one post. Where is our bingo sheet again?
 

TBiddy

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You are completely disregarding the massive hate train that started the second the revealed gameplay and continued until release. This was shortly after the initial reveal. You are basically referencing the only period of time in which the community did not loathe the game with the burning fire if a thousand suns. Go look at any of the threads referencing the order in the 6 months leading up to its release and then we'll talk.

The Order 1886 was released February 20th 2015.

The voting for 'Most anticipated game of 2015' started on December 10th 2014 and The Order 1886 came 10th.

Quick math tells me, that the timespan between December 2014 and February 2015 is around 2 months.
 
I may have missed a post, but did we get actual sales numbers that show the Xbox brand is bigger in Mexico than the PlayStation brand?
No I didn't gave out any. Trust me when I tell you Xbox was bigger than PlayStation in Mexico during the PS360 days. It wasn't even a contest. Not unlike in the US during that timeframe. I did read these numbers somewhere but latinamerican sales data are always harder to come by than Americans data so you'll have to take my word for it.

Right now during this cycle I don't know who's winning, if I had to guess I'd say PS4 but by a very small margin. This is just anecdotal evidence and I have no source other than I know the Xbox brand is big here. Maybe not big enough to beat the hottest console of the moment (PS4) but certainly bigger than whatever Microsoft can pull off in Japan and many European countries.
 

Javin98

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PS4 to sell over 2.53 million in the US in Nov+Dec... Yup, i'm here.
I think to win, but who know. :p
Even if I do lose the bet, the PS4 may still have a chance of reaching 36 million sold through worldwide. :p I don't know, almost feels as if the US is really contributing a third of the PS4's sales now and seems like it's going even lower. Anyway, nice to know you still remember the bet!

Perfect! Now we can cross out several, but that still leaves us with Sakujou, Y2Kev and Aquamarine returning. I highly doubt we'll be getting Zhuge's graphs, though. :(
 

TBiddy

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You are completely disregarding the massive hate train that started the second the revealed gameplay and continued until release. This was shortly after the initial reveal. You are basically referencing the only period of time in which the community did not loathe the game with the burning fire if a thousand suns. Go look at any of the threads referencing the order in the 6 months leading up to its release and then we'll talk.

The Order 1886 was released February 20th 2015.
The voting for 'Most anticipated game of 2015' started on December 10th 2014 and The Order 1886 came 10th.
Quick math tells me, that the timespan between December 2014 and February 2015 is around 2 months.

You said it was stupendously hyped, which one is it?


Also your natural inclination towards xbox makes me wonder what your point is?

It was stupendously hyped, from what I remember. My point? Nothing, really. It started as a friendly discussion about whether SFV was higher profile than The Order.

Disregarding your thinly veiled comments of passive-aggressivness in every thread I see you in, you're changing the narrative. First it was stupidly hyped and now it's not?

Also, you're using one thread from GAF as proof of your point? What's next? Using one post to perhaps suggest The Order was more hyped than Destiny and Titanfall combined?

I don't know which passive-aggressiveness you're talking about. Disagreeing isn't being aggressive.
 

bishbosh

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I am amazed it sells so well, considering that Sony isn't doing anything. Their first party output for the console is frankly embarrassing.

Which makes these sales kind of worrying. Sony doesn't even need to try, and I fear they will become complacent.

I kinda of agree with you here it's amazing how well it sells, but contradicting myself I have a PS4 waiting for me for xmas day, im keen to see how it compares to my XB1
 

RexNovis

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The Order 1886 was released February 20th 2015.

The voting for 'Most anticipated game of 2015' started on December 10th 2014 and The Order 1886 came 10th.

Quick math tells me, that the timespan between December 2014 and February 2015 is around 2 months.

I thought that was the 2014 list. Even still look at the competition in the list. It was exactly rife with hyped titles for 2015. You're also still disregarding the insane amount of hate the game garnered CONSTANTLY up until release. I have never seen a game get so much hate from so many people so often prior to release. It was literally inescapable.
 
The Order 1886 was released February 20th 2015.
The voting for 'Most anticipated game of 2015' started on December 10th 2014 and The Order 1886 came 10th.
Quick math tells me, that the timespan between December 2014 and February 2015 is around 2 months.



It was stupendously hyped, from what I remember. My point? Nothing, really. It started as a friendly discussion about whether SFV was higher profile than The Order.



I don't know which passive-aggressiveness you're talking about. Disagreeing isn't being aggressive.

I have noticed the same aggressive tone in some other threads I have been in as well as your self.

I recognise you because of this.
 

TBiddy

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I thought that was the 2014 list. Even still look at the competition in the list. It was exactly rife with hyped titles for 2015. You're also still disregarding the insane amount of hate the game garnered CONSTANTLY up until release. I have never seen a game get so much hate from so many people so often prior to release. It was literally inescapable.

I agree - there was also an insane amount of hate. But I think a large amount of that was concern trolling (I think the term is?) from people that had no intention of playing the game anyways. I guess one could argue, also, that the more hyped a game is, the more hate it will attract as well.

I have noticed the same aggressive tone in some other threads I have been in as well as your self.

I recognise you because of this.

As written above - disagreeing with someone isn't aggressive.
 

RexNovis

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It was stupendously hyped, from what I remember. My point? Nothing, really. It started as a friendly discussion about whether SFV was higher profile than The Order

Which was and continues to be absurd. Yes Street fighter one of the list recognizable, storied and popular brands in gaming is obviously going to be higher profile than a new IP with gameplay mechanics and design decisions that the vast majority of core gamers vehemently objected to. It's baffling anyone would even make this comparison.
 
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