DonMigs85
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At this point I doubt the PS3 is going smaller than 28nm
They won't invest additional R&D to shrink it further.
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New PS4 model (CUH-1200) announced
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They won't invest additional R&D to shrink it further.
Zero.
Sony makes yearly revisions and for the next one you would need to wait until early fall 2016 at the earliest. So it's better to buy it now if you're interested.
Went against my ultimatum and decided to give it one last go and I think this one's a keeper. The system's fans do not spin up as often so far running in similar situations. The system itself is much quieter ... the sound it makes is a bit different. Can't describe it exactly but not as rough motor sounding in a quiet room. I guess the the best way to describe the other systems were a less intense version of those things you use to blow up an inflatable mattress. Harder motor spinning the fans on all except this newest one.
The only real quibble is that this one has a high pitch noise that emanates from system in rest mode, specifically when the "Keep Application Suspended setting" is enabled. Luckily, doesn't make the noise when I either turn this setting off or keep it on but enable USB charging all the time (latter which I did because I like App suspend feature and the fan noise from the USB charging mode is incredibly quiet and non-intrusive). It's something I'm going to ignore but I totally agree with you that these things are a lottery if you really want one.
Got the 1200 model a while ago and I just started to play shadow fall in multiplayer a little. Was the framerate in this game always this bad? Single player is just fine, but in multiplayer it feels like it sits under 30 a lot of the time. I'm playing warzone with 24 players and I can't remember if it was always like this or not. I played it a bit on both the 10xx and 11xx models ,but that was over a year ago. Point is that I'm getting paranoid over whether or not the new model might fiddle with clock speed throttling leaving us with lower performance.
I would be very surprised if that was the case. That has never happened in a console before.
It's not locked, but it should definitly be higher than 30 fps. I think the fps changes make you think it's lower. MP usually runs between 45-50 fps.
Piku_Ringo
Banned
Will the BOPS III PS4 be a cuh-1200?
IonicSnake
Banned
Most likely.
Yes, it will be.
Got anything else besides the digital foundry video running the forest map to back that up? That video barely has any players in it. I know it's not locked and I'm certain it's not sitting around 40 fps. It may sound bad, but I can feel when a game runs at 40,50 or 60 fps. I really can. Or 30 or lower. I'm used to all ranges from having set my own framerate caps in pc games depending on my needs for years. While using both gamepads and m/k.
Are all the consoles being sold right now the 1200 model?
Amazon is replacing my launch unit with a new one, and I'm curious if I'll get the new model or the old one.
Also, can anyone advise what's the best way to get the data from my old computer to the new one?
Just swapping the HDDs would be enough?
Amazon is replacing my launch unit with a new one, and I'm curious if I'll get the new model or the old one.
Also, can anyone advise what's the best way to get the data from my old computer to the new one?
Just swapping the HDDs would be enough?
There's another video, made more recently, and it makes the framerate look better, running mostly 50+, but that's in the same map and also low player count. Other than that no real "evidence" than my own experience. I don't remember any real issues with the framerate dipping below 30's, but I haven't played it much recently (actaully not at all for atleast a year). But consistently hitting sub 30 seems way off... Though I don't dispute your experience, I think the fluctuating really just makes it feel that way. And in anyway, I don't think it has to do with throthelling on the 1200.
Thing is it doesn't seem to fluctuate very much. Only time I can tell it's hitting ~60fps is in each base spawn area. As soon as I leave that it drops to and stays at what feels like 30-ish . Single player seem to run much smoother. It feels like it. I haven't locked the campaign at 30 I might add. SP is supposed to run at about 40 pretty often I hear.
So unless the campaign is just way more consistent in it's rendering the framerate has gotten worse in multiplayer over the past year.
EDIT: Seems to be down to the amount of players really. 24 player matches runs at what feels like 30 or lower.
Tried a 10 player warzone match just now and it ran between 50-60 all the time. Really wish they'd add an optional 30 fps cap for multiplayer as well.
Thanks.
I dondt know the HDDs are tied to the system, and that if you put them in a new one, they need to be formatted.
AyaisMUsikWhore
Member
Does anyone have this console to talk about the fans and how quiet it is? More than my PS3 ever has, my PS4 literally sounds like a jet flying at 4000 mph seriously
i would also like to know this. my ps4 also sounds like a goddamn jet
I have a CUH-1200 and it is completely silent. Literally the only sounds I ever hear it make are a gentle whir when it reads a disc upon insertion, and the little beep when coming out of rest mode.
i couldn't trouble you for an audio clip could I? We can compare the old with the current. I recorded an audio clip of the current ps4
blame space
Banned
Yeah the disc drive is still a little louder than I'd like but I recently traded my old launch PS4 for the taken king one and it's much quieter. Plus, physical power/eject buttons!
I can confirm that the CUH-12xx model unlike the previous two is quiet even during heavy scenarios in games that made the first two go insane. I went through four of the first two models and they were all loud as hell in games putting the console under heavy load such as Killzone Shadow Fall, TLOU:R, MGSV Ground Zeroes, Infamous First Light after about 15-20 minutes of gameplay.
The 12xx model in the same scenarios after hours of gameplay remains quiet. It's not inaudible, but compared to the other two it's like a night and day comparison. Annoyingly enough Sony managed to resolve the excessive blowing fan noise and instead create a slight pulsating whining sound (coming from the fan so it's not coil whine.) Mine does this from time to time. It's annoying if I think about it, but really faint enough not to be disturbed while playing. It's slight enough for me not to care considering the trouble I went through with the previous models in any case. As of now the CUH-12xx model is easily the best one you can get.
The 12xx model in the same scenarios after hours of gameplay remains quiet. It's not inaudible, but compared to the other two it's like a night and day comparison. Annoyingly enough Sony managed to resolve the excessive blowing fan noise and instead create a slight pulsating whining sound (coming from the fan so it's not coil whine.) Mine does this from time to time. It's annoying if I think about it, but really faint enough not to be disturbed while playing. It's slight enough for me not to care considering the trouble I went through with the previous models in any case. As of now the CUH-12xx model is easily the best one you can get.
CrashPrime
Member
Yes.
Colonel Nasty
Member
I got an uncharted bundle yesterday for free from buying a new tv at Best Buy. I'm gonna give away my old model is it as simple as swapping HDDs and deactivating the old ps4?
Each HDD is tied to the PS4. You will need to perform a system transfer.
Colonel Nasty
Member
Is that in the settings or do I do that online?
It's in the settings, and you'll essentially need an extra hard drive to do it.
Or if you're confident and don't have an extra, large enough usb hard drive that you can use, you could do this:
1 - take hard drive out of new ps4
2 - put it in a usb enclosure, temporarily
3 - backup from old system to new ps4s hard drive (that you put in the enclosure)
4 - move hard drive from old ps4 to new ps4
5 - restore from new ps4s hard drive to the old ps4s, which is now in the new ps4
I found that the easier / lazier method is to backup all the saves to cloud, then set up profile on the new system and pull the saves down. And finally go to library and redownload all the games I still want on it. It will take forever if you have a lot of games but you can just have it do it overnight. Issue with this method though is you'll lose PT (and any other items that can't be redownloaded, not sure what those are).
Winnie the Pimp
Member
So this new model seems to be pretty good as far as noise and other things are concerned... Maybe time to jump in for me?
Is there any new bundle coming for the holidays/end of the year then? I already played all the Uncharted's so no interest in that one..
Is there any new bundle coming for the holidays/end of the year then? I already played all the Uncharted's so no interest in that one..
My launch unit was never as loud as some peoples but my 1200 is night and day when compared to it. It's kind of crazy.
Is that the new or old model? Old ones sound like hair dryers/space rockets lifting off.
Chronos24
Member
No it should be damn quiet. I'm sorry man but you may have gotten one of the few loud 1200 models out there.
SolarMystic
Member
Even the new Ps4 models will get a little loud in a quiet room under heavy load. As long as it doesn't sound like a jet engine you should be good.
Overall, it should just be moderately more loud than a Ps3 or Xbox One.
I have a couple of these in a server at work. Great drives.
Lynd7
Member
These exact drives? strange to have 2.5" laptop drives in a server isn't it?
swapped out my launch PS4 for an Uncharted bundle one
holy crap, what a difference! my old one would spool up fans in 5 minutes and be super distracting, the new one is dead silent
gonna play a disc-based game tnght just to make sure the disc sounds good, but i'm real happy with the 1200
holy crap, what a difference! my old one would spool up fans in 5 minutes and be super distracting, the new one is dead silent
gonna play a disc-based game tnght just to make sure the disc sounds good, but i'm real happy with the 1200
Deaf Spacker
Memb
Is it only the CUH-1200 model that has the matte HDD cover, the older PS4 models are not being sold with the same matte cover?
Chronos24
Member
My now month old and fairly heavily played Destiny TTK ps4 is I'm happy to say, still nice and quiet. As many consoles as I've been through because of mainly noise or other issues its just nice to finally play without needing headphones or vibrating disc drives or bad hard drives. Sony quality has not been great this gen but its nice to see them updating the model to address main complaints.
I would say no because there will be another new model next year
Norwegian_Imposter
Member
I'm assuming the guy means a more substantial model than this. Of course if your going for that you can wait indefinitely and get the best model by the end of the gen
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