Melchiah
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Yeah, sure. It's coming to PS5, and a year from that to XBO.
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Sony announces partnership w/ KojiPro, New IP, 1st game "console exclusive to PS4"/PC
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Yeah, sure. It's coming to PS5, and a year from that to XBO.
I expect it to be on PS5. 3 years is the earliest this will release and there's every chance it will be longer than that, which puts it extremely close to a generational transition. So even if it is a PS4 project, there will be a PS5 version.
Ryan's really predictable. Immediately after that tweet I posted that the next episode would be primarily about this.
The way he runs Podcast Unlocked is really sort of strange. A lot of the episodes actually focus so much on Sony and the PS4 and how MS has to respond and blah blah blah. It's really weird how he can't just focus on Xbox itself.
There's so much good and interesting about the Xbox One that it doesn't need to rely on what Playstation is doing to have discussion, but apparently Ryan is incapable of discussing it independent of Sony/PS.
LegendofDragoonLives
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So he's your typical gamefaqs user then ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
GreyOcelot
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i don't think 2018 is an unrealistic expectation for a game from this studio. the only time kojima has taken an inordinate amount of time with a game is when he was developing new engine tech along with the game (mgs4, mgsv). none of the other games he's worked on has had any development time issues. so assuming he'll go with an existing engine like UE4, i don't expect an mgs4/mgsv length of development
He also said that he wants the first project to be smaller in scale than V. While I'm not expecting 2018, I think it's possible.
DriftingSpirit
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I would avoid speaking in absolutes on this situation. We have no clue if there will be a PS5 version or not.
LifEndz
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So it's foolish Sony for paying "all that money," but dude pledged to personally ask Phil the next time he sees him if he even tried to make this happen. "Did you even try, Phil? Why didn't you open up the Windows coffers and build Kojima a money bin! Aren't the dump trucks we delivered SE's money back yet?"
shortsFortallPeople
Banned
With kojima, there really isn't much of a difference.
mejin
Member
cause he's just a fanboy.
RealityPales
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I'm not even going to dignify that shite with a listen.
blue_phazon
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I'm really glad things are looking up for Kojima again. I bought the MGS Legacy collection for PS3 when it came out. It was my first time playing through the series and had a complete blast.
Hopefully this new game comes out this gen since I plan on getting a PS4 next year.
I mean he did take like...what, 5 years making MGSV.
EDIT:
Actually you may be right. Didn't think about the whole engine thing. Hopefully it can make a 2017 release
Hopefully this new game comes out this gen since I plan on getting a PS4 next year.
I mean he did take like...what, 5 years making MGSV.
EDIT:
Actually you may be right. Didn't think about the whole engine thing. Hopefully it can make a 2017 release
DarthWalden
Banned
He is setting up a brand new studio, that in itself is a huge amount of work. He likely hasn't even decided on what type of game they are making, and it's not like the studio has been around long enough to have some old ideas sitting around. unless it's going to be a small scale title 2018 is really pushing it unless we get a GZ type prequel. This is not like creating a sequel, unless he is making a sequal/reboot to something he is going to have to create new characters, new assets, develop a new story and new world and then try to incorporate that into a fun experience. These things take years, RAD starated putting together ideas for the order almost 5 years ago and they could only manage to put together a 7 hour linear single player only experience.
In addition to that Kojima hasn't exactly been known for abiding to a schedule or a budget with his time at Konami. This is a big risk for Sony no doubt, it would have been an even bigger risk for MS given that most xbox players probably don't even know who Kojima is.
Brad Grenz
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I'm not a fan of Goldfarb. He may be a perfectly affable fellow, but he's one of the most perpetually misinformed people I've ever listened to on a podcast. I continue to be astonished by the fact that he was not only hired at IGN in the first place, but that they hired him back to be in charge of news.
Yep. Its a notch in the belt. Just like FF13 was for MS. It wasn't even about supporting JRPG's, it was about taking away that big exclusive from the other guy.
That would not be a problem if they didn't just leave all the Japanese developers that were promised investment and support high and dry right after that. Mistwalker man...its a shame.
Fallout-with-swords
Banned
You think the generation is only going to be 5 years long?
Thats like thinking inFamous 2 was going to be on the PS4.
Not sure if anyone has seen this, but the New Yorker has a profile on Kojima: http://www.newyorker.com/tech/elements/hideo-kojimas-mission-unlocked?mbid=social_twitter
Isn't it common belief that MS will lost all those games as exclusives when their sequels are announced/released?
AmuroChan
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Yea, and with Mistwalker, MS was really just using Sakaguchi's name to market the games. Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon were really developed by Artoon and Feelplus, respectively. Mistwalker proper is a very small studio. I think they're less than a dozen people. None of the console games they worked on were developed internally by them. Their core business is mobile gaming.
Titanfall and TR for sure. Not sure if Sunset Overdrive is going to get a sequel. Anecdotally it doesn't sound like SO sold that well. That fact that Microsoft never gloated about its sales (even with PR spin) is kinda telling.
Nightengale
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The whole exclusivity nonsense discussed during Podcast Beyond this week was SMH.
Just because MS wants to pretend ROTR isn't a timed exclusive mean that Sony is also pretending. Unlike FFVII which is "First on PS4", " Console Exclusive" is a different meaning.
Just because MS wants to pretend ROTR isn't a timed exclusive mean that Sony is also pretending. Unlike FFVII which is "First on PS4", " Console Exclusive" is a different meaning.
Omnistalgic
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yup, beyond is no bueno without the stars.
Jack The Nipper
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So what kind of money would Kojima realistically need?
He obviously was over spending on mgs5.
He doesn't need a bigger budget to make a game though. As to me it's the worst entry in the series.
I think a horror game would be most easy to develope while making it big and grand.
He obviously was over spending on mgs5.
He doesn't need a bigger budget to make a game though. As to me it's the worst entry in the series.
I think a horror game would be most easy to develope while making it big and grand.
Nightengale
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I like the current Beyond, but it'd be nice if some simple mistakes don't happen.
I also didn't like this week's XOXO because Colin's anti-FFVII perspective is flawed IMO in a lot of ways.
Neuromancer
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Good old Mccaffrey. Remember when he begged Microsoft to let him host their E3 conference?
That's an unbelievable Twitter exchange. What on earth would possess someone to do that?Good old Mccaffrey. Remember when he begged Microsoft to let him host their E3 conference?
funkystudent
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These dudes are hilariously dumb but if I was a betting man I would probably bet PS5 as well.
Not "LOL Kojima takes so long" but because we are 2 years into the generation and in 3 to 4 years we will be near the end of the cycle. At least I hope we will be near the end.
And 3 years would be real hopeful. New KP is literally starting from scratch. Will be fun to see in a few months how many people they have hired, if they will have a presence at GDC to recruit people and what not.
Jack The Nipper
Banned
Why not? He asked
Isn't a big deal.
Like the other guy was saying, begging. No he wasn't begging. Is that begging? Please, come on.. Please. Let me do it Phil.
killertofu
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Kojima's logos are so badass. Gotdam
Good old Mccaffrey. Remember when he begged Microsoft to let him host their E3 conference?
Is this guy for real?
Of course. It doesn't take much to be a game journalist, so the standards are really quite low. So these folks aren't even very good at hiding their clear preferences and fanboy desires. At least real journalists can sometimes hide that shit behind a good facade.
To be fair he does a better job than Arthur Gies.
Somebody just posted this on facebook. I did a google search and found posts of it all over the place online.
Wow is this some pathetic levels of delusion. Why can't we all just be happy that Kojima has escaped the clutches of an extremely oppressive publisher and celebrate in the future fruits of his newfound creative freedom? Attacks like these are juvenile and petty yet seem to account for the majority of discussion surrounding this online. Even going so far as to be retweeted by "journalists" only for them to then either recant or go back and delete their messages after people call them out on it.
Wow is this some pathetic levels of delusion. Why can't we all just be happy that Kojima has escaped the clutches of an extremely oppressive publisher and celebrate in the future fruits of his newfound creative freedom? Attacks like these are juvenile and petty yet seem to account for the majority of discussion surrounding this online. Even going so far as to be retweeted by "journalists" only for them to then either recant or go back and delete their messages after people call them out on it.
Neuromancer
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Because of the fable about the fox and the sour grapes.
The New Yorker suggests that Konami leaked the news to Nikkei in order to preempt Kojima's announcement.
http://www.newyorker.com/tech/elements/hideo-kojimas-mission-unlocked?mbid=social_twitter
http://www.newyorker.com/tech/elements/hideo-kojimas-mission-unlocked?mbid=social_twitter
Pinko Marx
Banned
Why are you getting trolled by Facebook posts?
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Pathetic Konami being pathetic. Seriously.
SolidSnakex
Member
To be honest, it wouldn't be surprising. First prevent him from getting a stand ovation when the announcement is made at PSX, then leak the announcement before he or Sony are contractually able to do it.
Wow Konami. Had to stoop even lower, I wasn't sure if that was possible but hey, there it is. Leave the man alone already.
HomerSimpson-Man
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^^^^^^^^^^^^
EDIT: Ah, Konami with the salty pettiness again.
Man, that Sony with the quickness. The moment the rumors came out Hideo was leaving, you just know they were all perked up with what Kojima will do next, just counting down when it was official, and bam!
EDIT: Ah, Konami with the salty pettiness again.
Man, that Sony with the quickness. The moment the rumors came out Hideo was leaving, you just know they were all perked up with what Kojima will do next, just counting down when it was official, and bam!
Chaos2Frozen
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Are they going to be sabotaging Kojima's attempt at happiness every step of the way from now on? I mean sure this one in particular isn't anything truly damaging but it does set the tone for what might happen.
Imagine if every time Kojima announces a new game, Konami comes out with a new metal gear as well.
xaosslug
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HomerSimpson-Man
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Reading about how he essentially wanted to go away for good while to a random island, in The New Yorker article, paints a soul crushing experience he had the pass year.
Thank goodness for that "Hollywood" friend to push Kojima forward and not give up.
wow this is amazing. i wish i had a twitter so i could press them with questions on their comments there
PoweredByHentai
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Hmm, I just thought of something. Since Kojima made Zone of the Enders, what are the odds that he'll be making something like that again or something in the vein of Omega Boost?
B_Spooky13
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I am so glad Kojima is away from Konami. I think Sony realizes his actual potential where Konami didn't. I think they are going to give him free range in a sense like they so with Naughty Dog (I mean MGS was a Sony exclusive for a while). They know what he can do and they trust him
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