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[outunderthestars]

Dumb fake survey turned into dumb 900p60 vs 1080p30 thread.

Never change GAF.

I'm more interested in the "Could GFK actually have information about the platform" discussion at this point. I mean dozens of studios have to know the specs of the hardware, so that would mean that hundreds of people know at this point. Key retailers would also know. Any one of them could have leaked some info to GFK

 

[jmizzal]

Wow. Nintendo continues to distance itself from me unfortunately. Hope this works out for the company but nothing I have seen so far seem interesting at all.

Which is nothing, nothing hasnt announced anything about the NX yet

 

[specialK]

900p??

 

[maxcriden]

I can't help it haha. Good thing this are only rumors. I just hope that new Mario game listed there is real. It's time for an epic new 3D Mario game.

True true. Let's just wait till the actual investors meeting on early february. Plenty sure Nintendo will finally reveal details of the platform there. Just two more weeks.

We won't get concrete details there. At least...don't expect it. At best I'd say we'll get info on when the concept reveal is coming. (Like by April.)

If they're going for parity between the console and handheld ie the same graphics output with no difference in visual quality, I'm ok with 900p60fps. I deal with it on my Xbox One so this isn't that big a deal to me.

That said, that may only be the resolution "lock in" for parity between the handheld and console. We have no idea if there will be "home console mode only" graphics options such as 1080p 60fps, 1080 30fps. Since their was speculation/leaks that the system would be Wii U backwards compatible, I find the panic among some premature. It'll have to run at 1080p 30fps/1080p 60fps to properly run Wii U games. Why wouldn't it support new games then at 1080p 60/30fps?

The handheld almost certainly won't be 900p. Expecting a handheld with that resolution from Nintendo is like expecting NX to be a robot that follows you around and serves you mushroom lattes. That is to say: unlikely.

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

I want to know more about the handheld. That's what is going to be traveling around with me.

It has a working distance of 30 feet from the console.

 

[Steejee]

Guys, guys (and gals), I understand the source of the confusion now. That image was from an old page that had a typo. Here's the more recent one:

 

[Tatsumi Oga]

900p @ 60FPS > 1080p @ 30FPS

COME AT ME BRO!

I will come at you, but only to shake your hand because I agree with you.

But only if they can guarantee 60fps for every single game it will get. I will definitely accept 900p then. But that's just not realistic thinking.

 

[SephLuis]

900p seems way too high for a portable unit. 720p is the max I'm expecting, it will probably be similar to Vita at 544p.

Completely forgot the portable resolutions. I was thinking something more close to smartphones (if they actually have those resolutions).

It`s way too high for a portable unit and low for a console.

The 900p would be for a single screen and, for a portable, I doubt Nintendo would abandon the DS format now.

For a console, I doubt the hybrid theory and I don`t think Nintendo would market 900p when the Wii U itself managed 1080p in some games.

 

[Replicant]

900p/60fps are the max combination the console can achieve, one assumes?

If that's the case then there's likelihood that the combination can go lower depending on the developer. 900p/30fps, 720p/60fps,etc

 

[beril]

I'm more interested in the "Could GFK actually have information about the platform" discussion at this point. I mean dozens of studios have to know the specs of the hardware, so that would mean that hundreds of people know at this point. Key retailers would also know. Any one of them could have leaked some info to GFK

Looking at that survey it's fairly obvious that the answer is no

 

[cyba89]

100% agree its stuff like this that hurt WiiU, negative article after negative article before it even was announced and came out

WiiU was not hurt by early rumors. It was hurt by Nintendos first presentation, a high price, a useless innovation, a confusing name, non-existant 3rd party support and no real target audience.

General population does not care about rumors of not yet announced consoles.

Stuff like this even hurt Xbox one early on

No. Microsoft did this themselves with their first presentation.

 

[inner-G]

Sony sold (and probably still sells) the PS4 without an included HDMI cable, just for reference.

You're thinking of fat PS3s from 6 years ago. PS4s all come with an HDMI cable instead of a component/composite-type of cable.

 

[outunderthestars]

We won't get concrete details there. At least...don't expect it. At best I'd say we'll get info on when the concept reveal is coming. (Like by April.)

My money is on an April reveal of hardware with a short sizzle reel of games. E3 will have hands on as well as pricing and a limited launch lineup. Preorders open that day with an October early November release date.

No way in hell does Nintendo go into the next holiday season with the Wii U and 3DS as their lead platforms.

 

[kuroneko0509]

I know he said he cropped the page to preserve anonimity, but I need to know if he cropped it to the point to edit out what another user said, i.e. this being about most heard Internet rumours on NX. I've yet to see confirmation on the matter.

>protect anonimity in a survey
there's a name on that survey screen or what?

 

[Little Mons†er]

If the WiiU supports 1080p what logical reason is there to believe Nintendo will downgrade to 900p? Depending on the CPU and GPU, I doubt Nintendo will be that silly.

Also, all of y'all better calm down since we know next to nothing about this NX Nintendo Xperience.

 

[Nudull]

The idea of a console/handheld hybrid is pretty appealing. If anyone can make a Vita-like device work and sell well, it's Nintendo.

It's funny that people here freak out on the sensor bar, like you don't want Wii BC potentially?

Superstition before logic!

 

[maxcriden]

Completely forgot the portable resolutions. I was thinking something more close to smartphones (if they actually have those resolutions).

It`s way too high for a portable unit and low for a console.

The 900p would be for a single screen and, for a portable, I doubt Nintendo would abandon the DS format now.

For a console, I doubt the hybrid theory and I don`t think Nintendo would market 900p when the Wii U itself managed 1080p in some games.

The one system hybrid has long since been debunked by Nintendo. Those expecting a single handheld/console device may as well expect NX to be a self-driving car that sings Mario-theme show tunes.

 

[Alex_Mexico]

This is the same company that sells their current console with an included HDMI cable.

Sony sold (and probably still sells) the PS4 without an included HDMI cable, just for reference.

You got that wrong, buddy. I think you're confusing the PS3 which indeed sold with RCA cables only making you have to buy an HDMI cable separately (thankfully it requires a generic HDMI cable only). The PS4 not only sells with an HDMI cable included since day one, but the thing won't even work with anything but HDMI. It doesn't have a Multi-Out thing to accomodate Composite or Component outputs. So what you were saying was bullshit.

I do wonder if PS3s being sold in 2016 continue to lack HDMI cables, though. It made sense back in, say, 2007 but now not so much.

 

[HyperCubed4]

I want to know more about the handheld. That's what is going to be traveling around with me.

It's probably going to be the 3DS, or a more compact Gamepad.

 

[co1onel]

900p and sensor bar are two things I don't want to see on that list

It's funny that people here freak out on the sensor bar, like you don't want Wii BC potentially?

Nintendo needs one controller, and to stick to that one controller, and that controller should have nothing to do with a sensor bar. Don't care about the BC myself. This is the best time to start fresh.

 

[bennywhatever]

For a console, I doubt the hybrid theory and I don`t think Nintendo would market 900p when the Wii U itself managed 1080p in some games.

Time to start a petition for Linkin Park for their marketing campaign.

 

[iMax]

Eurogamer has contacted GfK for comment.

 

[Oersted]

Oersted, you sound mad with the 'fucking.' If I irked you, my apologies. I was just intending on a spirited debate.

You're absolutely right that we don't know what their plans are. But the thread about "what we know about NX with sources" does not indicate at all that NX will be some mega-powerful machine. Nor would that be wise or likely for Nintendo to do, in most scenarios I can think of.

QoL is still coming as far as we know. NX will change in development of course but there are reasonable conclusions we can draw.

You can tell don't expect NX to be more powerful than PS4.

You can tell don't expect NX to be less powerful than PS4.

You could also tell the truth: I don't know. And this leak isn't telling us any specs.

 

[maxcriden]

My money is on an April reveal of hardware with a short sizzle reel of games. E3 will have hands on as well as pricing and a limited launch lineup. Preorders open that day with an October early November release date.

No way in hell does Nintendo go into the next holiday season with the Wii U and 3DS as their lead platforms.

I totally agree on the second point. I hope you're right about the first point but IIRC it seemed like the latest rumors were pointing to a concept reveal in April with a games/price/etc. big blowout at E3. We'll see though. Either way I'll be delighted to get concrete details, just don't wanna be disappointed if the games aren't revealed till E3 and I expected otherwise.

You can tell don't expect NX to be more powerful than PS4.

You can tell don't expect NX to be less powerful than PS4.

You could also tell the truth: I don't know. And this leak isn't telling us any specs.

I don't understand what you mean. Have you seen the thread about "what we know about the NX with sources?" That's the sum total of what we know. Yes, NX could be more powerful than the PS4. That seems based on everything I've ever read about NX and Nintendo to be unlikely. You know? I'm not trying to give you a hard time. This leak is murky and it's unclear to me the extent to which it's a leak vs. any grain of truth. Do you think there is a possibility NX as a console will be more powerful than PS4? I just don't want people to expect that and then anti-hype or spread FUD when that turns out not to be true.

 

[Little Mons†er]

The 4K streaming is weird... What if on the NX handheld you stream it to the console NX but it up scales it to 4K video playback?

I don't know if that's possible, don't know much but the 4K thing is intriguing.

 

[Flying Toaster]

It has a working distance of 30 feet from the console.

Damn...

 

[Anth0ny]

The PS4 and Xbox One barely have any 1080p games to begin with...

PS4 does. Again, those are 2013 consoles. This is a 2016 console. On par with PS4 isn't enough, and if this 900p nonsense is true, that's certainly not enough.

C'mon, you know full well that no console would realistically have a fixed resolution/fps output. That's absurd.

Of course not, but why even mention 900p? It seems strange and it does suggest an underpowered console. 1080p should be ALL OVER the marketing of this thing.

 

[TM94]

Secret sauces?

I've already said too much.

And all I got for it was flagrant abuse, scandalous.

 

[-Horizon-]

Eurogamer has contacted GfK for comment.

I fully expect

GFK: no comment

lol

 

[Bjoern the Smexy]

900p just shot themselves in the 900p.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about 900p (I'm an expert), but 900p and 900p are huge parts of 900p. It's not like it is in 900p where you can become successful by being 900p. If you screw someone over in 900p, you bring 900p to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that 900p is 900p.

What this means is the 900p 900p, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase 900p for either 900p, nor will they purchase any of 900p's 900p. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but 900p has alienated an entire 900p with this 900p.

900p, publicly apologize and cancel 900p for 900p or you can kiss your 900p goodbye.

Perfect post. Thank you.

 

[Vena]

Of course not, but why even mention 900p? It seems strange and it does suggest an underpowered console. 1080p should be ALL OVER the marketing of this thing.

Read. This isn't marketing and isn't even from Nintendo.

 

[iMax]

Of course not, but why even mention 900p? It seems strange and it does suggest an underpowered console. 1080p should be ALL OVER the marketing of this thing.

Because this survey is not from Nintendo. 11 pages and I still haven't seen a drop of evidence that Nintendo commissioned this survey.

 

[Jorok Goldblade]

I don't know why GAF think Nintendo will match power with PS4 and Xbox One on CPU and pixels.

The PS4 and X-Box One were considered disappointingly under-powered at launch, and they'll be three years old by the absolute earliest the NX could come out. I don't get why there's such a strong narrative that Nintendo can't even match that relatively low bar.

 

[maxcriden]

Read. This isn't marketing and isn't even from Nintendo.

Is there a summary somewhere of who exactly this is from, how we know if it's in affiliation with or on behalf of Nintendo, and what else the survey says?

 

[Bjoern the Smexy]

You're thinking of fat PS3s from 6 years ago. PS4s all come with an HDMI cable instead of a component/composite-type of cable.

You got that wrong, buddy. I think you're confusing the PS3 which indeed sold with RCA cables only making you have to buy an HDMI cable separately (thankfully it requires a generic HDMI cable only). The PS4 not only sells with an HDMI cable included since day one, but the thing won't even work with anything but HDMI. It doesn't have a Multi-Out thing to accomodate Composite or Component outputs. So what you were saying was bullshit.

I do wonder if PS3s being sold in 2016 continue to lack HDMI cables, though. It made sense back in, say, 2007 but now not so much.

Finally some nice people who actually correct me instead of calling me dumb.
Thank you very much for clearing up my confusion about the matter.

 

[Neoxon]

Does the source have any legitimacy? I haven't been following this thread considering that I just woke up.

 

[Rodin]

PS4 does. Again, those are 2013 consoles. This is a 2016 console. On par with PS4 isn't enough, and if this 900p nonsense is true, that's certainly not enough.



Of course not, but why even mention 900p? It seems strange and it does suggest an underpowered console. 1080p should be ALL OVER the marketing of this thing.

You're going to be so horribly disappointed when the NX is finally revealed.

Does the source have any legitimacy? I haven't been following this thread considering that I just woke up.

The survey is real, but it's not commissioned by Nintendo.

 

[Lutherian]

This looks like the worst fake "survey paper" I've ever read.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReLT8MCbCs0

Edit :
Nevermind.

 

[Vena]

Is there a summary somewhere of who exactly this is from, how we know if it's in affiliation with or on behalf of Nintendo, and what else the survey says?

Like this:

It's like NPD putting out a survey.

They don't have access to the console because they're not a developer or a Nintendo partner.

They're just a market research company.

GfK wouldn't know this info.

This is a fake.

 

[Rösti]

Eurogamer has contacted GfK for comment.

I contacted them too, via e-mail.

 

[SephLuis]

The one system hybrid has long since been debunked by Nintendo. Those expecting a single handheld/console device may as well expect NX to be a self-driving car that sings Mario-theme show tunes.

I haven`t read almost any news regarding NX, but I still see some comments from people hoping for a hybrid lol

Thought, if it were a self-driving car that sings Mario-theme show tunes it would explain a lot about the Mercedes DLC in Mario Kart =P

Time to start a petition for Linkin Park for their marketing campaign.

Haven`t heard LP since Meteora, but I would have no issues if they went back to hybrid theory.

 

[MR ARCADE FOREVER]

If the WiiU supports 1080p what logical reason is there to believe Nintendo will downgrade to 900p? Depending on the CPU and GPU, I doubt Nintendo will be that silly.

Also, all of y'all better calm down since we know next to nothing about this NX Nintendo Xperience.

Supporting 1080p doesn't mean that all games will be running at 1080p

 

[maxcriden]

Like this:

Oh. This is exactly what I was looking for. I was asking NDP_M to post in here when I saw his post in the other thread. That's great. Thanks so much. That needs to go in the OP!! Someone contact the OP....

 

[AdanVC]

We won't get concrete details there. At least...don't expect it. At best I'd say we'll get info on when the concept reveal is coming. (Like by April.)



The handheld almost certainly won't be 900p. Expecting a handheld with that resolution from Nintendo is like expecting NX to be a robot that follows you around and serves you mushroom lattes. That is to say: unlikely.

Yup. An April or early May reveal could totally happen. Maybe even after Star Fox Zero is out wich is technically the last game left to launch on Wii U that has an exact release date. We will have Twilight Princess HD, Pokkén and SF0 to keep us busy.

 

[x-Lundz-x]

If this is true, and 900p is the limit for the console, that is a fucking joke and Nintendo might as well give up and I finally go third party like they should.

If the handheld is 900p / 60 thats something totally different.

Guess we will see by the summer.

 

[-Horizon-]

Like this:

Well there it is dot gif

 

[Oersted]

Supporting 1080p doesn't mean that all games will be running at 1080p

It also doesn't mean that every single game will be 900p/60fps

 

[Rodin]

If this is true, and 900p is the limit for the console, that is a fucking joke and Nintendo might as well give up and I finally go third party like they should.

If the handheld is 900p / 60 thats something totally different.

Guess we will see by the summer.

So the Wii U can output at 1080p but its successor can't.

 

[oti]

WaraWara 2.0

yes/no

?

 

[DragonSworne]

It also doesn't mean that every single game will be 900p/60fps

Yep, the underpowered games will be 1080p. Don't expect third parties games running 1080p on PS4 to run 1080p on Wii U2 if this rumor is true.