Obliterator
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2016 should for sure be up YoY over 2015 imo, but this year may be its peak
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NPD Sales Results for January 2016
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2016 should for sure be up YoY over 2015 imo, but this year may be its peak
I like this phrase!
I think that will depend heavily on the games being released in any given month and if/when they do a redesign or another official price drop.
Still, outlook positive.
Yes.
Games doesn't matter lol. But maybe SF V can help a but.
342,000.
slavesnyder
Member
Firewatch too small and digital to count I guess.
In a gen where PS4 is winning it doesn't seem so anyway...
Just a smidgen too digital, ye
PS4 will not peak in 2015, and nobody expect it to do so that early. It will easily sell more this year, and true peak will happen when it gets entire year [or close to entire year] of $299 price [2017]. IMO, the only way it can peak in 2016 is if there is very large rush of initial VR purchases that quickly evaporates, leaving 2017 sales without any kind of VR HW sales. But even if that early "failed VR" peak happens, PS4 will not be in trouble if non-VR sales remain at normal levels.
PS3 reached its peak in 4th or 5th year, but that was anomaly since launch price was bad and great software arrived way after console launched.
Yep you are right. There was a trade-in deal at Gamestop btw...
Hum... I'd actually expect Feb to closer to flat YoY due to the trade-in deals last year unless I am misremembering the trade-in timelines for PS4 vs when it was for the X1. The growth YoY for peak vs. decline from lack in trade-in incentive should flatten pretty well.
I also don't expect SFV to move the needle much, but Primal may do decently well.
I also don't expect SFV to move the needle much, but Primal may do decently well.
ethomaz
Banned
VR launch year will be peak.
slavesnyder
Member
I don't understand it but i'm afraid to ask.
Can someone pm me a joke explanation? I promise I won't laugh. Thanks.
The Last One
Member
But I think VR launches this year.
slavesnyder
Member
Phil Spencer in negotiations with US government for marketing deal...
Obliterator
Member
So 2016 then
I never said it was definitive and I never said that exclusives don't matter at all. I simply said that most console gamers don't care about games being available on PC since many of them don't play games on PC.
Most console gamers simply want good, popular games to play -- whether exclusive or not.
I wouldn't put exclusives on the same level as friends circle. Current gen sales back up the fact that people simply want to play big name games.
There definitely are people who chose one console over the other due to exclusives this gen but they aren't the majority. With this in mind, I don't see how more games coming to PC (a gaming platform that most console gamers don't care much about) hurts in anyway. If the game is still an exclusive in the console space, then many console gamers will still view it as a (true) exclusive.
The games that are PS4 and PC only wouldn't significantly change PS4 sales if those games turned PS4 only (and vice versa). Same is true with this recent move with Xbox games.
I doubt it considering the fact that third party multiplats are the top selling games on consoles with many of these games being available on PC anyway.
Why would so many people play third party games on a console (with worse quality) if many had acceptable gaming PCs? It just doesn't add up.
Everyone gets an Xbox One instead of their returns.
If you owe, they send you a Windows Phone instead.
small44
Member
I would say GTA6 year is the peak year
Welfare
Member
All welfare recipients get an Xbox One and a free game every month.
slavesnyder
Member
This is pure evil.
joecanada
Member
I'm gonna do a cross-fic between this thread and My Little Pony
Posting to wattpad asap
I wouldn't be too sure of this because SFV should get some Street Fighter fans to go out & get a PS4. it's a fan base that haven't had much of a reason to own a PS4 yet so I expect at least a little bump.
FootballFan
Member
Yeah looking over a small sample of his/her posts it seems like you hit the nail on the head.
Disappointing behavior.
slavesnyder
Member
Allan is okay. Have you seen since when he's on GAF?
It's not easy for XboxOne preferring folks in here, so I'm happy for every single one of them.
Altered Juice
Member
me too. looking forward to the reception as well.
fasten your seatbelts, casual gamers and gaffers who don't go into SFV threads are in for a wild ride come tuesday.
You think 2016 will beat whatever year PS4 get a slim & price drop below $299 or when GTA6 come out?
unless 2016 is the year of one of these major things I don't think 2016 will be it's peak.
FootballFan
Member
Allan being on Gaf for a long period should not be shield for criticism of his positions.
There is nothing wrong with liking Xbox and there is no mass persecution of Xbox fans on neogaf. But being so entrenched in your point of view as to not acknowledge competing evidence and accepting good arguments is wrong and counter productive.
CosmicQueso
Member
Going on post history witch hunts on people who are everyday posters in sales threads and then accusing those posters of bad behavior is unfortunate.
You can disagree with someone without the nonsense happening here.
Talk about shameful.
What the hell is this.
You can disagree with someone without the nonsense happening here.
Talk about shameful.
What the hell is this.
Obliterator
Member
Yeah gotta say the post history witch hunt thing I'm not a big fan of myself. Especially for a regular sales GAF member like allan-bh. We have a nice core group of us in sales GAF and I like to think we're above that kind of thing.
freefornow
Member
Looking at some of the previous pages discussing Blu Ray fees payable to Sony, wouldnt those fees be split between Panasonic, Phillips and Sony?
How certain are posters in their information of a $9.50 licencing fee per xbox sold? Dont the manufacturer (Lite On) of the BD Drive pay a lump sum $100000 5 year licencing fee to the Bluray Licencing office? I realise this licencing fee would be built into the cost of the drives, but when you are producing X millions of drives (that cost MS $34) that fee portion is tiny.
So Lite On (or any other Blu Ray drive manufacturer), not MS pays fees to the BR Licencing office which would then distribute these fees to Panasonic/Philips/Sony???
How certain are posters in their information of a $9.50 licencing fee per xbox sold? Dont the manufacturer (Lite On) of the BD Drive pay a lump sum $100000 5 year licencing fee to the Bluray Licencing office? I realise this licencing fee would be built into the cost of the drives, but when you are producing X millions of drives (that cost MS $34) that fee portion is tiny.
So Lite On (or any other Blu Ray drive manufacturer), not MS pays fees to the BR Licencing office which would then distribute these fees to Panasonic/Philips/Sony???
Yeah the personal attacks on bias isn't really needed, especially when just regular debate already got allan-bh to step down from his original statement. He already admitted he was wrong about Sony's success being the doing of MS, and not Sony, when he should have said that it was the doing of both MS and Sony.
The second statement is of course true, always has been and always will be. No console is released in a vacuum. But a console maker's actions are just as important as the inaction or mistakes of other console makers. Of course you have to make a compelling product; nobody just wins by default. There are way too many options for entertainment these days. If nobody makes a compelling console there's always PC and mobile to turn to.
The second statement is of course true, always has been and always will be. No console is released in a vacuum. But a console maker's actions are just as important as the inaction or mistakes of other console makers. Of course you have to make a compelling product; nobody just wins by default. There are way too many options for entertainment these days. If nobody makes a compelling console there's always PC and mobile to turn to.
Imo, GTA VI launch is gonna be insane, i believe it could be bigger than GTA V ( only launch, not in the long term ).
But i don't think it Will sell many console... I expect GTA VI to release, Like GTA C, by end of the generation, when At that Point PS4 and XB1 have saturated the market.
I mean, look At GTA V. It sold over 35 million on PS3 and 360, but it didn't increased the sales. I expect a similar situation for GTA VI.
About price and Slim model, well, i don't see an official $250 pricedrop this year, but i believe PS4 Will be At that price duting Black Friday of this year.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Are we really back to 'the PS4 is only successful because MS messed up'?
No, the person who initially claimed that already corrected himself.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Between allan taking away from sony, post history witch hunts, long debates on why this console is successful...i gotta say you disappointed me sales gaf!!! I looked up tp you guys like a kid does a super hero, this was the one thread where it always made sense, where we could unite and talk about Maus, Na's bad taste in games every time an rpg bombs and so on. Disappointed.
Sincerely-Disappointed Blackleg
Sincerely-Disappointed Blackleg
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Oh, good. It's probably my fault because I just skimmed through.
FootballFan
Member
I am sorry, but a poster indicated that Allan has certain biases. How else is someone to confirm biases without reading past posts of said user. Using witch hunt in this context is inaccurate. I did not bring his previous posts into this thread nor do I want anything to happen to his account. I mentioned that it is disappointing behavior because it, in my opinion, is just that.
But lets please bring it back on topic.
PS4 is a beast.
And February has potential for an increase in sales with SFV making its debut.
Anybody want to make a predicition on SFV software numbers for the month.
FootballFan
Member
Sorry for the double post.
Any hint of Cream making an appearance tonight?
We need a savior for this thread...
The one we need but do not deserve ...
Any hint of Cream making an appearance tonight?
Obliterator
Member
Allan isn't even entirely wrong. MS complete mis calculation of the market played a significant role in the PS4's position in the NA market. Thats not even up for debate. Its not entirely that, Sony may have won the gen even if the Xbox One came out all cylinders firing but their mistakes had a noteworthy impact.