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Love Boat [Mafia] |OT| Till Death Do Us Part

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We're cool, xam

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I've kept it together until the last few hours. At least give me credit for that.
 
look here guys, we have a pile on

can someone please explain why they're voting for us?

is there actually an argument there with any substance? or are you just marching to the beat of Flux's drum and playing follow-the-leader with the last minute bandwagon to save your own arses?

Okay. If Town genuinely gives weight to the word of someone who immediately put the game into chaos with a shifty role claim and constantly cites "Woof 2 Woof 2" like it's supposed to mean something to the rest of us, then fine.

Even if the people voting for us aren't scum, they aren't strong Town members whose reasoning I would put much faith in.
 

Warxard

Banned
look here guys, we have a pile on

can someone please explain why they're voting for us?

is there actually an argument there with any substance? or are you just marching to the beat of Flux's drum and playing follow-the-leader with the last minute bandwagon to save your own arses?

Okay. If Town genuinely gives weight to the word of someone who immediately put the game into chaos with a shifty role claim and constantly cites "Woof 2 Woof 2" like it's supposed to mean something to the rest of us, then fine.

Even if the people voting for us aren't scum, they aren't strong Town members whose reasoning I would put much faith in.

Well Tim's vote on me, contradicting his feelings on Hyperkitty being scum doesn't match up especially in the case that we WERE in a straight 7 for 7 tie. If he wanted to get rid of his main suspicions, he would have told you what's up through love chat (I'm making that inference due to both of you jumping between voting decisions through game one) and switched up the votes to get rid of Hyperkitty. Literally a win/win scenario for Tim's agenda and lower's the group count to point out scum more.

Maybe Tim panicked once the pressure went on and gunned for me once I made the mistake of the context-less post.
 
look here guys, we have a pile on

can someone please explain why they're voting for us?

is there actually an argument there with any substance? or are you just marching to the beat of Flux's drum and playing follow-the-leader with the last minute bandwagon to save your own arses?

Okay. If Town genuinely gives weight to the word of someone who immediately put the game into chaos with a shifty role claim and constantly cites "Woof 2 Woof 2" like it's supposed to mean something to the rest of us, then fine.

Even if the people voting for us aren't scum, they aren't strong Town members whose reasoning I would put much faith in.

Because you guys have done barely enough to have a presence in the game. First, the behavior is very much unlike Tim, but the most reasonable explanation for that is that he's been held back by having a partner. He can't play as risky as he normally would. So, to keep himself and his partner alive, he plays cautiously, sticks to the margins of the game. All enough so that people don't look at you twice, because you're contributing the bare minimum. But you're both detached. It's very apparent.
 

FluxWaveZ

Member
Okay. If Town genuinely gives weight to the word of someone who immediately put the game into chaos with a shifty role claim and constantly cites "Woof 2 Woof 2" like it's supposed to mean something to the rest of us, then fine.

I'll have you know that your partner, Kingkitty, Hyperactivity, Timeaisis, batsnacks, cabot, *Splinter and Boo Boo 'n are intimately familiar with Werewolf 2. Besides, WW1 and WW2 are the only main Mafia games I've participated in. Am I not supposed to cite previous experiences as a way to relate them to ongoing events?
 

Warxard

Banned
A question to our trackers: Who do you even plan on keeping an eye on during the night phase anyway? Do you have suspicions? Look into our Cops?
 

Burbeting

Banned
never forever & czartim (7)
karu
coppanuva
fluxwavez
launchpadmcq
blargonaut
launchpadmcq
ultrajay
boo boo'n
tl21xx

ultrajay & boo boo'n (6)
never forever
kyanrute
ultrajay
kingkitty
coppanuva
cabot
*splinter
czartim
never forever
coppanuva
tl21xx
hyperactivity

kingkitty & hyperactivity (5)
hyperactivity
czartim
launchpadmcq
ty4on
launchpadmcq
never forever
kawl_usc
boo boo'n
kyanrute
gorlak
batsnacks

*splinter & cabot (0)
gorlak
launchpadmcq
kingkitty

timeaisis & fluxwavez (1)
launchpadmcq
ultrajay
ty4on
coppanuva
*splinter
*splinter
camjo-z
*splinter

blargonaut & kawl_usc (2)
flame_ac
boo boo'n
karkador
zippedpinhead

el topo & giant panda (0)
cabot
gorlak
*splinter

coppanuva & flame_ac (2)
*splinter
ty4on
*splinter
batsnacks
fluxwavez
hyperactivity
retroid

karkador & zippedpinhead (0)
fluxwavez
fluxwavez
giant panda
coppanuva



magnumboy20xx & batsnacks (0)
flame_ac

tl21xx & camjo-z (0)
coppanuva

kyanrute & retroid (1)
*splinter
*splinter
sophia
flame_ac
batsnacks

sophia & ty4on (0)
launchpadmcq
blargonaut
fluxwavez

rest & karu (0)
fluxwavez
sophia

launchpadmcq & gorlak (2)
fluxwavez
*splinter
blargonaut
giant panda
batsnacks
cabot
sophia

no lynch (0)
retroid


16 Votes Needed for Majority
 

UltraJay

Member
A question to our trackers: Who do you even plan on keeping an eye on during the night phase anyway? Do you have suspicions? Look into our Cops?

Whoa whoa lover. Don't let scum know where to look. Let Blawl track whoever the duck they want and let's not tell Mafia everything we're going to do tonight as town, k?
 
look here guys, we have a pile on

can someone please explain why they're voting for us?

is there actually an argument there with any substance? or are you just marching to the beat of Flux's drum and playing follow-the-leader with the last minute bandwagon to save your own arses?

Okay. If Town genuinely gives weight to the word of someone who immediately put the game into chaos with a shifty role claim and constantly cites "Woof 2 Woof 2" like it's supposed to mean something to the rest of us, then fine.

Even if the people voting for us aren't scum, they aren't strong Town members whose reasoning I would put much faith in.

Splinter said smart players do it

ergo
 

Warxard

Banned
Cabot, names are capitalized alright.

You changed avatars in the hopes that we won't recognize you, hmm?

They shouldn't tell us

How much does the scum team wanna know this so they can react accordingly?

Whoa whoa lover. Don't let scum know where to look. Let Blawl track whoever the duck they want and let's not tell Mafia everything we're going to do tonight as town, k?

Right, they shouldn't. Sorry, the final hour kind of got me on edge.
 

UltraJay

Member
look here guys, we have a pile on

can someone please explain why they're voting for us?

is there actually an argument there with any substance? or are you just marching to the beat of Flux's drum and playing follow-the-leader with the last minute bandwagon to save your own arses?

Okay. If Town genuinely gives weight to the word of someone who immediately put the game into chaos with a shifty role claim and constantly cites "Woof 2 Woof 2" like it's supposed to mean something to the rest of us, then fine.

Even if the people voting for us aren't scum, they aren't strong Town members whose reasoning I would put much faith in.

You guys started a pile-on on us. Don't like it so much now that you've got the ass and balls in YOUR face?
 

*Splinter

Member
UltraJay is the smart vote. Slightly suspicious and already claimed ordinary (or at least "not important"). It's so boring though, the inevitable ordinary town lynch :/

I've been unsure on NeverTim. I expected a lot more from them in D2 (they've both brought up the "it's D1" excuse) and I kind of gave them a pass... Looking back, they've done nothing to deserve it.

VOTE: CzarTim

Literally the only thing giving me pause here is the speed with which they've picked up votes. I assume they are in the lead by now?
 

Gorlak

Banned
Hey

My vote for Hyper was super funny in regards to Launch's post and nothing more. How could you not see this Splinter? It was mostly because I have faith in Launch and trust his opinion. Anyway Hyper stuck out to me because he plays very different to what I've seen him do ever before.

I decided to let imy vote stay there, because cabot and Splinter pushed in the direction of UltraBoo. HyKi were in the lead and not long after attention was drawn to Boo. Interesting is Flux not seeing this (don't know if that was intentionally or not). Anyway Czar and Never did pile onto that vote afterwards, that's correct.
Those two are null reads for me, I expected way more activity and productivity from Tim, Never didn't offer much as well. My Lover has stronger feelings for you, which may be why my vote ends up in your direction.

The one team I feel as scum are still Splintbot. As my partner said earlier, we won't get traction in that direction and the vote would be a lost cause today.

Ultra's self-vote and ordinary soft-claim could be tactics, if he truly wanted to help town, he would put up a fight and request a replacement at night.

Meanwhile El Topo gets away with STILL talking about lynching Flux instead of simply putting his vote down and starting to give his opinion on other teams.

Unvote
 
Well Tim's vote on me, contradicting his feelings on Hyperkitty being scum doesn't match up especially in the case that we WERE in a straight 7 for 7 tie. If he wanted to get rid of his main suspicions, he would have told you what's up through love chat (I'm making that inference due to both of you jumping between voting decisions through game one) and switched up the votes to get rid of Hyperkitty. Literally a win/win scenario for Tim's agenda and lower's the group count to point out scum more.

Maybe Tim panicked once the pressure went on and gunned for me once I made the mistake of the context-less post.

I don't understand what you're saying, tbqh, but let me try and interpret

Me and Tim were going back and forth between your pairs for a while, and full of doubts about basically everything, major D1 jitters, but we felt that Hyper's responses to being questioned were genuine so we moved to the players who we felt were scummiest. That's it.

Am I not supposed to cite previous experiences as a way to relate them to ongoing events?

Not to the extent you do it, sweetheart. Me and Tim made up a drinking game about it.

Splinter said smart players do it

ergo

yeah, but that's Splinter

come on dude

Because you guys have done barely enough to have a presence in the game. First, the behavior is very much unlike Tim, but the most reasonable explanation for that is that he's been held back by having a partner. He can't play as risky as he normally would. So, to keep himself and his partner alive, he plays cautiously, sticks to the margins of the game. All enough so that people don't look at you twice, because you're contributing the bare minimum. But you're both detached. It's very apparent.

congratulations, there are multiple couples with a minimal presence in the game

the most reasonable explanation is that we're trying to adjust to a 30 player game where we were incredibly busy for the week, and where the whole thing has been a shitshow from the word go, but that's not making the conclusion fit the evidence, is it?
 

cabot

Member
Hey

My vote for Hyper was super funny in regards to Launch's post and nothing more. How could you not see this Splinter? It was mostly because I have faith in Launch and trust his opinion. Anyway Hyper stuck out to me because he plays very different to what I've seen him do ever before.

I decided to let imy vote stay there, because cabot and Splinter pushed in the direction of UltraBoo. HyKi were in the lead and not long after attention was drawn to Boo. Interesting is Flux not seeing this (don't know if that was intentionally or not). Anyway Czar and Never did pile onto that vote afterwards, that's correct.
Those two are null reads for me, I expected way more activity and productivity from Tim, Never didn't offer much as well. My Lover has stronger feelings for you, which may be why my vote ends up in your direction.

The one team I feel as scum are still Splintbot. As my partner said earlier, we won't get traction in that direction and the vote would be a lost cause today.

Absolutely shameless, show me where we pushed it.

I said I was voting for ultraboo and gave my reasons. I don't remember pushing anyone else to do the same.
 

Ty4on

Member
(Yesterday, 07:13 AM)
Town wise, I'm looking at:

Sophia & [m] Ty4on
Karkador & [m] Zippedpinhead
*Splinter & [m] Cabot
(Yesterday, 12:33 AM)
[...]
thoughts as they come to me:
- Sophia is trying to win Miss Congeniality
- BooB needs to hop off my man's dick, but hopefully having a more active partner will now mean that he can now actually share love with somebody else without trying to get all up in my relationship
- Kark is very belligerent and attention-whoring, probs town
- I don't approve of people giving the Splinter/cabot pair brownie points just because they're posting a lot
- lmao @ the idea of a 'second phase' to Flux's claim, as if it was well thought out enough to actually have anything substantial to it beyond trying to stimulate discussion (if town) / cause chaos (if scum)
- I like batsnacks's attempts to contribute with these plans of his, the only issue is that they all fall apart as they rely on too many people telling the truth and staying alive in a game of liars and death
- LMQ is deflecting discussion, him and G seem to be going through the motions and are being far too elliptic, even by the standards of this game
- Hyperactivity is too busy screwing around *somewhere else*, him and Kitty just seem generally off and at a remove from proceedings
[...]

Were these disagreements brought up in your chat?
 

Gorlak

Banned
Absolutely shameless, show me where we pushed it.

I said I was voting for ultraboo and gave my reasons. I don't remember pushing anyone else to do the same.

I was going to bring that up tomorrow, but Flux started a bandwaggon on CzarNever with his reasoning. I'll do my best in the time that is left.
 

FluxWaveZ

Member
Not to the extent you do it, sweetheart. Me and Tim made up a drinking game about it.

Hm... noted. Personally, I like to refer to the past a lot when it comes to how I inform my decisions in the present. The thing is that, due to my lack of experience, I also can't use the examples of the past as a general rule, so I'll openly state something was from a certain specific example as a reference. I guess I'll try to drop that a bit and take what's happening in the now in isolation more.

Which brings me to me still voting for you.
 
Were these disagreements brought up in your chat?

no, last night was the first time me and Tim were properly able to chat

before that it's been a bit of him, bit of me, because we've been busy and kept missing each other, and I didn't always record all my thoughts
 

FluxWaveZ

Member
Oh boy...

Time, where the heck are you? Place a vote on Never Forever, please. You can lay low, but at least vote near the deadlines.
 

Warxard

Banned
I don't understand what you're saying, tbqh, but let me try and interpret

Me and Tim were going back and forth between your pairs for a while, and full of doubts about basically everything, major D1 jitters, but we felt that Hyper's responses to being questioned were genuine so we moved to the players who we felt were scummiest. That's it.

Look let's start from the beginning:

I was getting scummy vibes from coppa and flame at first too, but I cooled on them a bit. Like my one true love said, they aren't being self-conscious in the way scum is usually...

Who is being self-conscious is Launch. And Gor's posts feel like he's compensating for scum guilt with his over-the-top posting. Would vote.

As for whoever asked about kitty, I'd say scum kitty is often a bit more devoid of passion when giving his opinions. As if he is going through the motions.

Vote: Kingkitty

Kark is being very obtuse and it'd be hilarious if it hadn't taken up a whole page. Not sure if there is scum there though.

There's no guarantee we have an alignment cop if we have millers. Stop setup specing on day one, it's embarrassing.

This post here, to which I agreed with the Hyperkitty assumption by looking into Hyperactivity's posts with was the start for Tim's weird shift in opinion for the team. Then he goes on later in the thread to post this:

I have not seen a good reason to move my vote off hypitty. I am willing to switch to avoid a tie, but other than that I'm good.

Which, up until my fumble with the context-less vote, he immediately latches onto voting for me once he saw pressure from Hyperactivity he let up and went directly for MY neck. Seen here:

I was hoping to get some reads from hyper before I go, but his responses to me earlier felt genuine. Won't be around for deadline.

Vote: Boo Boo'n


Like wtf? you couldn't get any reads from the dude you've been talking to for the past couple of posts? Why go for me, because I fucked up?
 
Tim's told me not to spill the details, because it's useless if scum know about it beyond the fact that we have it

but Tim's not here, so I'm in a bit of a quandary
 

Ty4on

Member
Tim's told me not to spill the details, because it's useless if scum know about it beyond the fact that we have it

but Tim's not here, so I'm in a bit of a quandary
Role claims are boring.
no, last night was the first time me and Tim were properly able to chat

before that it's been a bit of him, bit of me, because we've been busy and kept missing each other, and I didn't always record all my thoughts
I'm more interested in this. If you were to boil down to the essence of you chat's suspicions, what would they be?
 
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