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Kotaku: Sony is working on a PS4.5; briefing devs on plans for a more powerful PS4
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Chezzymann
Member
If the PS4.5 sells really well, then yeah the priority will be for that instead of the original. Also, there's this thing called time. People only have so much time to optimize things, which is why consoles are a thing in the first place so that developers only have a couple platforms that they can really focus on and get the most out of, while when you get multiple iterations then it's hard to focus on all of them at once. This is really obvious with a lot of last gen ports and I don't see why it wouldn't be true here as well.
If they're actually doing this, I don't think it's a DSi or N3DS stopgap. I think we're looking at the same thing Phil Spencer seems to have alluded to - an end to discrete console generations, and a shift to a more smartphone-like upgrade cycle (although I'd expect more powerful models to only be released every 2-3 years, not annually like with phones).
PS4.5 doesn't make sense to me.
I'm of the opinion that this is the PS5 being reported on.
Sony is possibly cutting this gen short.
aspiegamer
Member
No. Nonononono. Sony, no, don't do this. Don't be dicks. Shouldn't developers be furious with this sort of thing, too, on top of consumers?
No. I'm done with this crap if a "ps4" game ever doesn't just work on my PS4. I'm a big proponent for console gaming but I'd never try to defend anything this ridiculous at anything other than a direct 1:1 exchange promotion for existing users. If we're talking a year+ down the line still? Okay. If Sony were to make all future platforms backwards compatible? Okay. Perhaps eventually just naming the console "Playstation", with more incremental upgrades? Okay. But, again, only with some kind of upgrade path for people who bought in already.
No. I'm done with this crap if a "ps4" game ever doesn't just work on my PS4. I'm a big proponent for console gaming but I'd never try to defend anything this ridiculous at anything other than a direct 1:1 exchange promotion for existing users. If we're talking a year+ down the line still? Okay. If Sony were to make all future platforms backwards compatible? Okay. Perhaps eventually just naming the console "Playstation", with more incremental upgrades? Okay. But, again, only with some kind of upgrade path for people who bought in already.
Alpha Phoenix
Member
Isn't this basically what Phil Spencer said he wanted to do for Xbox One? It wouldn't surprise me if both MS and Sony ended up releasing upgraded hardware.
Art Vandilay
Member
Exactly. MS basically has Sony's hands tied. They have to follow suit to remain competitive long term. Nobody is saying this is happening this year or even next, but I believe it's inevitable.
GhostWriter24
Member
No. 1920 x 2.
have you been reading this thread? there's a lot of complaints
Me too!
I definitely think it's the most likely scenario. The PS5 being the PS4 "but better" and a couple devs calling it the PS4.5 in jest just makes the most sense to me. With the move to X86 it should be exactly that and it shouldn't be a 7-8 year cycle again. There's no reason to reinvent the wheel here and we're far enough into the console cycle that Sony would be talking to developers about it already.
I think the Chicken Little stuff here is a bit out of hand. There's simple and rational explanations for this stuff that fall in line with regular console development.
If the upgraded ps4's where backwards compatible with the PSX, PS2, and PS3 I'd probably be there day one. It would actually soften the blow of an upgraded ps4 immensely for me. Won't happen though.
Killer Queen
Banned
Alright man, you have your opinion, I have mine. If they wanted to be a console powerhouse they should have put in cutting edge tech at the beginning of the cycle. I and others would clearly be pretty upset with this change so I'm not sure why you seem to think there's something wrong with that. Those who want to frequently upgrade could buy a PC if you hate long cycles. If you want to sell an external GPU fine, but an entire new console? Fuck no.
Zombie James
Banned
No doubt they would keep the same architecture.
Hey, so regardless if the PS4K is a rumor or not,
what say some of you expert techies that know the ps4 and have toyed around with it,
is there anything there that be added to expand it's power, where would the "upgrade" even go, through the HDD, the USB ports?
Please do tell
Not possible, there's nowhere near enough bandwidth through SATA 2 or USB 3.0.
You probably won't be left out. You'll most likely just have the worst experience of a game, which you were anyways if the game was on PC.
Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
Member
Yeah, I don't believe this one bit. 4K..... this thing is going to cost 1000 dollars if so. That's absolutely nuts. Taking this with a grain of salt.
SolidSnakex
Member
Why? Klepek was very much one that was pushing the notion that third party publishers were pressuring Sony to have DRM in their system or else they'd drop support.
friskykillface
Banned
4 year gens would be ok if they were $250 or at most $300 with a pack in game
I wish I had money to splurge on stuff but these student loans :/
I wish I had money to splurge on stuff but these student loans :/
Obliterator
Member
The opinion of this thread by and large is extremely negative so...
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Or you read the thread and see theirs two sides like im sure there was for that thread
Finally!
And when PS4 and XB1 were announced, we all speculated that this might be the case, that the move to a more standard architecture would allow quicker updates that retained compatibility with previous models.
Enter the Dragon Punch
Banned
Lol, that isn't how it works.
3840 X 2160 has 4X the amount of pixels as 1920 X 1080
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I am with this post.
Hawk269
Member
What if the information is slightly off?
Sony has always used consoles as a Trojan like horse for DVD and then for Blu Ray, what if the PS4k is just HDMI 2.0 ports and built in 4k Blu Ray player? It is advertised as a PS4k because it in fact does output 4k albeit for movies. Current HDMI ports cannot handle the bandwidth for the demands of the 4k Blu Ray player specs and HDR output. If this device is real, it may just me a redesigned box, HDMI 2.0, 4k Blu Ray playback and that is it. Gaming will be the same, this is just made for those that want the newest in media.
Sony has always used consoles as a Trojan like horse for DVD and then for Blu Ray, what if the PS4k is just HDMI 2.0 ports and built in 4k Blu Ray player? It is advertised as a PS4k because it in fact does output 4k albeit for movies. Current HDMI ports cannot handle the bandwidth for the demands of the 4k Blu Ray player specs and HDR output. If this device is real, it may just me a redesigned box, HDMI 2.0, 4k Blu Ray playback and that is it. Gaming will be the same, this is just made for those that want the newest in media.
dragonzdogma
Member
Thank you, so why did kotaku even made it sound like it?
Wtf?! the majority here are complaining what are you talking about?
Aces&Eights
Member
Day 1. Will even deal with in store maddness if I had to and I'm old.
Why would they do that? They have zero reasons for that. PS4 is destroying everything.
Man... I sure hope this is not true.
Nocturno999
Member
They will be fine if launch consoles can run new games at lower settings.
I'm not seeing that many people cheering at this news.
You've got some weird confirmation bias going on, lol
franknbeans
Member
Didn't Netflix mention last year that sony was planning on releasing a new PS4 that could output 4k video but not 4k for gaming? Also, wasn't Sony quiet at CES regarding UHD blurray players. Hmmm
Art Vandilay
Member
In 2-3 years? No way it costs $1000 US dollars.
Edit: I don't think many games will actually be running at 4K, but I think a system capable of playing at 4K would be cheaper than that.
