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[TheGreatMightyPoo]

At least it can handle ports.

The CPU is immense this time but the games look like crap.

 

[XenodudeX]

Christ, if it's not a handheld I'm going to be so goddamned mad. What are they doing?

Then again, it's not like I believe this anyway so carry on.

I thought it was obvious that the console wwas coming out first?

 

[Lonely1]

Can someone explain why x86 is a big deal? I'm not in the know with this hip lingo :<

Well, it would be a confirmation that Nintendo is done with further iterations of the GC's CPU. However, most people in here apparently believe that non-x86 implies low performance (and the converse), which isn't true.

 

[Vena]

Not that I disagree, but as I recall he simply heard during the beta that a port was happening, not that dev kits were out there. Maybe I'm misremembering.

Frankly though I'm pretty sure we've had an insider here say that dev kits were out there, so it seems a little hard to believe that they aren't...although you have to wonder what is out there when we heavy details and confirmations on the PS4k, meanwhile we basically have nothing on the NX.

You wouldn't be discussing a port if you didn't know what you were porting to or if it were feasible.

 

[Pokemaniac]

Can someone explain why x86 is a big deal? I'm not in the know with this hip lingo :<

It is relevant in terms of potential implications for shared library.

It is not relevant with respect to power or portability.

 

[Alebrije]

We do not have leaks becuase developers are in black as us. This means NX hardly will be released this year and 2017 seems more accurate.

Zelda WiUU could be released second half 2016 so NX for 2107 has sense , this way NX won't hurt Wiiu s Zelda sales and one year later a NX release with Zelda port and games for 3rd p developers would be announced

 

[bloodforge]

I'm still expecting them to use ARM.

Not going to believe anything unless it comes directly from Nintendo at this point.

 

[killatopak]

how do they achieve backwards compatibility? Isn't the Wii U a PowerPC? Isn't it the same situation as why the PS4 can't emulate the PS3? Sorry if I'm wrong. Not that much of a techie.

 

[Griss]

they already have a handheld, though

it's the console sitch that needs fixing

It's other way around. The 3DS has been keeping their entire business afloat and is about to crater. Sales are slowing, almost all of its major games (bar Sun/Moon) have been released, the hardware is ancient - it needs to be replaced. Judging both by history and the present market, it has a better chance of having a successful successor than the Wii U.

The Wii U, on the other hand, well they are currently surviving and eking out profits on a base of 10-11 mil. Because of the 3DS. What happens when the 3DS craters if the Wii U's successor sells N64/GC/Wii U numbers again? Nothing good. The 3DS is the device they must replace immediately, NOT the Wii U.

I thought it was obvious that the console wwas coming out first?

Not to me, but I have a bad memory. What has implied this?

 

[TunaLover]

Seems like you'll believe any rumor.

That sound pretty plausible though since Nintendo don't give two craps about 3rd parties

 

[BY2K]

So the guy in the one thread saying he was playing a beta for a game that will be developed is lying? Even though Bish verified him?

Why is "Bish Verified" regarded as a 100%, unbreakable, certain verification?

We don't know how the process goes. People lie, people can be good at convincing other people that their lie is legit.

 

[Kouriozan]

I thought it was obvious that the console wwas coming out first?

Yeah, verified rumors state that Zelda NX will launch this year.
We're getting major conflicting reports, now I'll just wait for official info from Nintendo, it's getting scary.

 

[Mysterious]

Where does he mention BC at all?

 

[AngryMoth]

As someone only casually following NX rumours I still have genuinely no clue what to expect

 

[IceDoesntHelp]

x86 doesn't necessarily mean power. As far as I know (as a layman) it's just different architecture/instruction set. A better comparison would be that PowerPC is Latin and x86 is English (I think)

I still dont understand it really. What makes it better than others?

 

[Parapraxis]

Yeah, verified rumors state that Zelda NX will launch this year.
We're getting major conflicting reports, now I'll just wait for official info from Nintendo, it's getting scary.

We need a spreadsheet to track and compare rumours lol

 

[Sadist]

 

[Lonely1]

how do they achieve backwards compatibility? Isn't the Wii U a PowerPC? Isn't it the same situation as why the PS4 can't emulate the PS3? Sorry if I'm wrong. Not that much of a techie.

I think it is much harder to emulate the Cell than the Espresso.

 

[Pokemaniac]

Basically it makes porting games to the console a lot easier, which will make it more enticing to third parties. x86 is the architecture the PS4, Xbone and PC use.

This is a myth. The only people hugely affected are ones that write a large amount of assembly, which is uncommon nowadays.

Why is "Bish Verified" regarded as a 100%, unbreakable, certain verification?

We don't know how the process goes. People lie, people can be good at convincing other people that their lie is legit.

It's not 100%, but it's way better than reddit verification.

 

[IceDoesntHelp]

x86 is an architecture like ARM is architecture. Something like i7-6700k or Atom X 5 z8550 is a CPU implemented on that architecture. Power goes between a small mobile device like a cellphone to a huge server chip with up to 24 cores.

Oh boy, this is flying over my head..i kind of get it but at the same time i dont.

 

[Gamer @ Heart]

I still dont understand it really. What makes it better than others?

Because it's what the other 2 consoles and most PCs use.

Meanwhile, almost every major mobile device is based on ARM.

 

[BY2K]

It's not 100%, but it's way better than reddit verification.

Why?

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Why?

Because he likes gaf better.

 

[goomba]

team fake.

theres no way its using inefficient and old x64/x86 CISC CPU architecture, especially the handheld.

 

[Pokemaniac]

I still dont understand it really. What makes it better than others?

It's not better. x86 is put up on a pedestal mostly because of inaccurate public perception.

 

[cyress8]

Why?

I think since Bish is a dev and can probably get in contact them a tad easier than others or even personally know them . My take on it anyway.

 

[Anondreas]

This seems patently wrong based on what we've been told, or from even just the WSJ article from last year.

I agree, I too believe there was WSJ article or another reputable pub that indicated they were sending out SDKs last October. So I think the nofusion poster on Reddit is incorrect.

 

[SirPenguin]

Have we considered that the "user" here is just a 3D printed model posing as human?

 

[Already Torn]

Support for second screen sounds like smartglass.

I think that may be worse than another GamePad. Did anyone ever enjoy Smartglass?

 

[GustyGardens]

We need a spreadsheet to track and compare rumours lol

Reddit's got you covered. It's organized by date, and has links to the original post and the name of the poster.

NX Rumor Spreadsheet

 

[Pokemaniac]

Why?

Because some really obvious fake stuff has gotten past the reddit verification. Like that thing people keep linking in this thread where someone made a fake leak for a class.

 

[Peterc]

I've worked with unity in the past. It's easy to compile a game for a specific device. So I'm wondering why it couldn't be done for nx console/handheld

 

[ShadowFox08]

though the question is if 3rd party devs want to go through the trouble

Yeah, watch it be a PS4 with better GPU and slightly more RAM, but weaker CPU at $399

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Not that I disagree, but as I recall he simply heard during the beta that a port was happening, not that dev kits were out there. Maybe I'm misremembering.

Frankly though I'm pretty sure we've had an insider here say that dev kits were out there, so it seems a little hard to believe that they aren't...although you have to wonder what is out there when we heavy details and confirmations on the PS4k, meanwhile we basically have nothing on the NX.

So they gon be developing a game for a console that they have no idea what the specs are? No way

 

[Wace]

I have a stupid question: Sony is releasing RemotePlay to the Mac/PC soon. Is it possilbe (in a patent/legal sense) for Nintendo to add RP software to their WiiU-esque NX controller/handheld (assuming there'll be one)?

 

[Regiruler]

Makes sense to me. Wii U BC has always been considered unlikely since PPC is archaic.

x86 is older by at least a decade.

 

[OnionPowder]

I still dont understand it really. What makes it better than others?

I think the main benefit is availability of parts

 

[Lonely1]

Yeah, watch it be a PS4 with better GPU and slightly more RAM, but weaker CPU at $399

I actually think the other way is more likely this time! (Stronger CPU, weaker GPU, slightly less RAM)

I think that may be worse than another GamePad. Did anyone ever enjoy Smartglass?

I like the Gamepad.

 

[BY2K]

Because some really obvious fake stuff has gotten past the reddit verification. Like that thing people keep linking in this thread where someone made a fake leak for a class.

Okay.

Now can I get a list of things people verified by Bish said that turned out true?

 

[TheSlySoul]

I agree, I too believe there was WSJ article or another reputable pub that indicated they were sending out SDKs last October. So I think the nofusion poster on Reddit is incorrect.

Could it be possible that they have the dev kits and do not know the specs?
I know that happened with N64.

 

[protomouse]

I have a stupid question: Sony is releasing RemotePlay to the Mac/PC soon. Is it possilbe (in a patent/legal sense) for Nintendo to add RP software to their WiiU-esque NX controller/handheld (assuming there'll be one)?

I don't think Sony have any legal ground to stand on, so yeah.

 

[ViciousDS]

haven't we had plenty of "verified" reddit sources scamming info recently for projects for school?

 

[cw_sasuke]

Yeah, watch it be a PS4 with better GPU and slightly more RAM, but weaker CPU at $399

You are crazy if you think Nintendo will launch a 400 dollar console.

 

[Kenzodielocke]

Friendly reminder that someone once got "verified" at reddit for posting this:

(it was a fake leak that a college student did for an assignment) http://kotaku.com/the-fake-video-game-rumor-someone-spread-for-homewor-1699726881

Yeah, maybe. But nothing sounds too crazy here.

 

[TheSlySoul]

haven't we had plenty of "verified" reddit sources scamming info recently for projects for school?

I remember reading a project about reddit verification in which he detailed how he could fake it.
So yeah, the only reliable source will be Nintendo themselves.

Edit: Oh yeah, it was B-K and Conker. Now I remember.

 

[Instro]

So they gon be developing a game for a console that they have no idea what the specs are? No way

Knowing specs and having a dev kit are two different things though. They may be planning a port based on the information provided. That wouldn't be much different from what happened with the WiiU except Nintendo ended up delivering a dev kit that did not match the specs they originally provided.

 

[UnemployedVillain]

Makes sense to me. Wii U BC has always been considered unlikely since PPC is archaic.

People need to stop repeating this. It's similar to the nonsense about resistive touch screens being older than capacitive. They've different. The major differences aren't nonsense like which is older/new and more by which is more widely adopted and being iterated on. PPC isn't really used anymore, while x86 continues to be. THAT is the most significant and relevant difference

 

[blu]

I think the main benefit is availability of parts

The irony in this statement ; )

 

[Pancake Mix]

x86 is older by at least a decade.

Maybe he meant the PowerPC 750 processor family?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC_7xx

 

[Aroll]

Yeah, verified rumors state that Zelda NX will launch this year.
We're getting major conflicting reports, now I'll just wait for official info from Nintendo, it's getting scary.

Not really. This new verified user never said anything that conflicts directly with the other verified rumors. He simply said his contacts were not aware if the NX was coming out this year or not, they do not have actual dev units, just SDKs, and because of that their games would likely release early 2017.

All he really could tell us that we weren't sure of before is that it's x86, which makes for a lot easier porting, and that Nintendo is going to store data and saves off console (universal account, cloud system, My Nintendo, yada yada). that and that if Dev Units are out there, they are EXTREMELY rare and we wouldn't probably hear about them at all until post reveal.

Oh, and that it's certainly powerful enough for current gen ports. Exact specs unknown because they are working off SDKs and not true hardware, but that SDK's give youy the ballpark for hardware - so we know it's at least Xbone/PS4 level minimum.

I see absolutely nothing conflicting here. Just that the release date isn't known by 3rd party devs yet, but for them internally it's highly unlikely they release games for it in 2016. It would have to be magically smooth I assume in the very first hardware test of a port for it to make this year and that's obviously something they will doubt until the hardware is on hand.