No, that is not possible.
It would be easier to have the handheld run with half the GPU ALUs (cores) and clockspeed of the console. With 14nm or 16nm, this should be possible while still keeping the console in range of the Xbone.
No, that is not possible.
Charlie isn't the most reliable source, so that rumor is dubious at best.
That the CPU is noticeably better than the PS4's and XboxOne's but still not impressive to her or him.
It seems more grounded in possible technical reality than the confusing non-assertions Emily keeps posting. This most recent post of hers isn't really even coherent. Xbox ps4 ps4 neo industry leading where is it apples and oranges is all I really got out of her post.
Seven sources vs numerous sources, are they the same sources? Numerous sources sounds a lot more like industry speculation than actual sources to me, but 7 sources saying it is not x86 or polaris sounds more concrete. Note that the seven sources don't actually comment on power levels, and everything else just seems like speculation on her part.
And the first part of her post still corroborates WSJ, who I'm far more inclined to believe than any of the other NX rumors that have thus far come out. Industry leading also points to nvidia somewhat, as they certainly are leading the graphics industry in basically every relevant metric.
"Good reason" for polaris being "wacky" points to nvidia a bit imo.
It’s new console time again and SemiAccurate brings you news of Nintendo’s NX silicon. If you recall our past guesses were pretty spot on and this time should be the same. You might also recall we made some pretty surprising calls on the console silicon front too, and this one will probably make most of you pick your jaw off the floor.
No, her "good reason" was the fact that it's not powerful. She doesn't understand that Polaris scales. She might even just be making an assumption on that front. If she's seriously criticizing people for not knowing that Nintendo went with one of the least likely vendors over the most obvious one, that's make her a bit of an asshole.
No, her "good reason" was the fact that it's not powerful. She doesn't understand that Polaris scales. She might even just be making an assumption on that front. If she's seriously criticizing people for not knowing that Nintendo went with one of the least likely vendors over the most obvious one, that's make her a bit of an asshole.
Also, I seriously suggest that you look at Charlie's track record. You'll probably find the truth behind it after a while: it's not even a rumor; it's a guess.
Just like when he guessed that "PSP2" would be Tegra-based and made a good case for it. Also, as far as I can tell, he doesn't tend to lock actual news or rumors behind the paywall. Basically, keep your saltshaker handy at all times.
Considering what Nintendo has been able to do graphically with the WiiU (MK8, SM3DW, ZeldaU), a new Nintendo console slightly above the X1 power wise sounds good to me. If they come up with a good interface method, this could turn out to be great.
If Emily has heard also about Nvidia being on board with NX, that would make the Polaris claims "wacky" indeed. But as she didn't mentioned Nvidia, we can't know for sure.
Also, I don't have an ego. If I'm wrong on anything in the future, then I'll admit it. I'm only human.
Agreed. I also feel like we're in a gaming era where talent and publisher cheques are the limit for how good a game looks more than the host technology itself.
Agreed. I also feel like we're in a gaming era where talent and publisher cheques are the limit for how good a game looks more than the host technology itself.
Wii U's only visual downfall was being a primarily 720p system. The models and textures underneath all those jaggies were really high-quality. I have no doubt in my mind NX will do a better job at letting those assets shine than the Wii U did.
I find this tweet from Emily odd
This certainly isn't completely true. Console games still look a lot better on PC, and you often see people on neogaf bemoaning the fact that game X doesn't run at 1080p and/or 60fps (rendering resolution and framerate has next to no relation on budget).
But I certainly agree with the core point that Nintendo games already look great on the Wii U. Heck, they looked great on the Wii, at least if you disregard all the aliasing.
To be honest, I don't even really mind that. They have some sort of really good upscaler going on. I'm admittedly less sensitive to sub-native rendering than some people are, but I remember correcting a friend a while back that his new copy of Mario Kart 8 was only rendering at 720p, and he was incredulous.
You're right, but I find that the disparity in tech between platforms tends to amount to performance-based improvements rather than those pertaining to assets such as superior models and textures, and less so between consoles.
I'm sure Nintendo's exclusive titles for NX will look very, very impressive indeed.
You're right imo. If you look at a game like Uncharted 4, the asset quality and sheer attention to detail in the environments is rare even for a lot of PC games. That comes down strictly to the talent and the budget that Naughty Dog are afforded.
So this doesn't give third parties incentives at all just like the Wii U. if this is true.
Her information is vague. If it is some custom chip based on Polaris - but not actually Polaris, would she be right? This is why rumors without solid information - meaning names of the chip providers, are useless. She says the NX may not be as powerful as X1 in raw power but doesn't give a reason why. Surely the sources would have said "The GPU is weaker" or something like that.
Not saying she is wrong, but she didn't provide any real information.
So this doesn't give third parties incentives at all just like the Wii U. if this is true.
Uh huh.So this doesn't give third parties incentives at all just like the Wii U. if this is true.
It seems more grounded in possible technical reality than the confusing non-assertions Emily keeps posting. This most recent post of hers isn't really even coherent. Xbox ps4 ps4 neo industry leading where is it apples and oranges is all I really got out of her post.
Seven sources vs numerous sources, are they the same sources? Numerous sources sounds a lot more like industry speculation than actual sources to me, but 7 sources saying it is not x86 or polaris sounds more concrete. Note that the seven sources don't actually comment on power levels, and everything else just seems like speculation on her part.
And the first part of her post still corroborates WSJ, who I'm far more inclined to believe than any of the other NX rumors that have thus far come out. Industry leading also points to nvidia somewhat, as they certainly are leading the graphics industry in basically every relevant metric.
"Good reason" for polaris being "wacky" points to nvidia a bit imo.
She did provide at least that it's not a X86 and that it's not Polaris. You can chose to believe it or not, but that's a clear info. Also, it's kind of the best info we have from someone who was proven right before and didn't make any outrageous claims.
What you (and others) want is more explanations because this info hit your expectations. Which I can understand too, but it's not really Emily to blame for that.
Why?Talking about "raw power" and not about "performance", using vague statements about "closer to XBO than PS4"... which to my logical brain means in between both. .
ARM is a far more prolific architecture than PPC. It will negatively impact nothing.
She did provide at least that it's not a X86 and that it's not Polaris. You can chose to believe it or not, but that's a clear info. Also, it's kind of the best info we have from someone who was proven right before and didn't make any outrageous claims.
What you (and others) want is more explanations because this info hit your expectations. Which I can understand too, but it's not really Emily to blame for that.
Why?
Why?
Why would devs work on a console that is around the same level at the ones we currently have instead of building onto the current ones (and the 4k versions coming up?)
Ports don't mean anything either, Wii U had good porting abilities.
It's as if people keep not reading the thread...So this doesn't give third parties incentives at all just like the Wii U. if this is true.
It's as if people keep not reading the thread...
No, she's posting vague statements fuelling off the wall speculation even further. "Raw power closer to XBO than PS4 and even that's pushing it"... WTF does that mean? "You can't compare apples to orranges..." THEN DON'T!!!!
Nobody cares about "raw power", we care about performance. That's what we (and 3rd parties) will want to know. How Nintendo gets there, is of little importance.
No, it's not that. It's that she's being intentionally vague and clearly withholding information for later, such as why Polaris is "wacky" (though I still think that she's basing that entirely on the performance level and therefore could still be very wrong). I just get the feeling that she's doing this partially for attention, and that kinda pisses me off.
I just get the feeling that she's doing this partially for attention, and that kinda pisses me off.
You could also, you know, not give her attention if you believe that she does something out of bad intentions or something. And yet here you are bad mouthing her again and again. Without any actual proof against her other than the complain that she's vague with her info. Yet you refuse to accept any info. What would more precise info change for you. It's not like you would accept it or like her anyhow.
You could also, you know, not give her attention if you believe that she does something out of bad intentions or something. And yet here you are bad mouthing her again and again. Without any actual proof against her other than the complain that she's vague with her info. Yet you refuse to accept any info. What would more precise info change for you. It's not like you would accept it or like her anyhow.
Emily's really the last leaker who would do something for attention. She deleted her previous twitter specifically because she was getting too much. Out of all the leakers I've seen she's been the most modest (and accurate). She's also never earned a cent of money from any of her leaks. She doesn't have a YouTube or an ad-filled blog that earns her money from her info, unlike Trev and that Unseen64 guy. She's as genuine as it gets.
I'm really curious why you have an axe to grind with her. What did she honestly do to you?
Like i already explained in the past, i have no issues with her personally. Unlike Muchomalo i don't necessarilly think she does it to get attention, or out of arrogance. But it does annoy the hell out of me, when she "intends" to set the record straight, yet makes the situation worse due to herself not fully understanding (i think) what the implications of her posts are. I can ignore her posts, but i can't ignore the countless topics and posts that spring from her statements here on gaf. The best examples that spring to mind are her "raw power" comparisson with the XBO/PS4 which still has people unclear whether she meant below XBO or between XBO and PS4, and the way she chose to debunk the AMD mixup myth... giving many people the impression that the chip would be 28nm as a result.
Sunk cost fallacy on Nintendo's part. They must have paid IBM a mint for Gekko so they milked that investment for generations until it bit them in the ass. They're also strapped for software so generational transitions can kill them if the new hardware takes long to learn because it's too different. It doesn't mean Nintendo likes weak hardware.XBone levels performance at best. That's what I've been saying since the start. I don't know why Nintendo fans choose to ignore the 15 years of history and evidence.
Purple lunchbox? Must be weak.You mean 10 years. What is with this revisionist history concerning GameCube?
XBone levels performance at best. That's what I've been saying since the start. I don't know why Nintendo fans choose to ignore the 15 years of history and evidence.
I find this tweet from Emily odd
I mean, sure, that's a noble quality. But it comes across more as doubt to me. Why even entertain the notion she's wrong unless she's not confident in her information?Perhaps paradoxically, the fact she mentioned she had "7 sources" makes me less inclined to believe what they're telling her. I find it hard to believe that she has 7 sources of note that are willing to tell insider secrets all on the same thing
Maybe I'm off-base, I just find this entire situation weird and offputting
But a completely different source reported on the Nvidia thing, not Emily.Cause even a few months out specs can change either in small amounts or sku completely as it happened with Wii.
Nvidia being involved should make people wonder.
Cause even a few months out specs can change either in small amounts or sku completely as it happened with Wii.
The same could be said of Trev. He heard about the NX Platform launching this year, now it got pushed back to March 2017.Sure, but that has nothing to do with her being wrong or "human" as she says. She's reporting the facts as she hears them; if it's true now, that's all she needs to be concerned about
I'm also of the opinion that if you're going to be leaking things in such a public way, you should be extremely clear about things like Shinobi, Verendus, Kotaku etc.
The moment you start speaking in riddles, stupidly vague comments and the like is when you start to piss me off, personally. It just screams of attention seeking, and adds absolutely nothing to the discussion, often even derailing it as we've seen in here (sorry for earlier, guys).
Be specific with your information or don't share it at all. Shit is annoying.
She is literally the epitome of "I know something you don't know." Any time I hear someone talk about "my sources" it just reeks of self-importance. The melodrama about being on Twitter and not being on Twitter, being public or private or public or private, starting and deleting blogs, announcements of hiatuses and whatnot... it all just reeks of attention seeking.I'm also of the opinion that if you're going to be leaking things in such a public way, you should be extremely clear about things like Shinobi, Verendus, Kotaku etc.
The moment you start speaking in riddles, stupidly vague comments and the like is when you start to piss me off, personally. It just screams of attention seeking, and adds absolutely nothing to the discussion, often even derailing it as we've seen in here (sorry for earlier, guys).
Be specific with your information or don't share it at all. Shit is annoying.
The heat in this thread is interesting.
I like Emily and while she may have a lot to learn like someone from kotaku or any other outlet and it's understandable why she is being vague as these things change or maybe the source isn't being clear on the chips in question.
The drama surrounding it is silly and I do feel a bit sorry for her.
Be vague enough and you don't say anything really. If you don't say anything, then you can't be wrong about anything.
She is literally the epitome of "I know something you don't know." Any time I hear someone talk about "my sources" it just reeks of self-importance. The melodrama about being on Twitter and not being on Twitter, being public or private or public or private, starting and deleting blogs, announcements of hiatuses and whatnot... it all just reeks of attention seeking.
I do genuinely believe now she has found herself in a position of knowledge. Why she doesn't use that position to make a living rather than sit at a laptop tweeting vague hints is beyond me. It's just frustrating how she approaches all of this, like it's a game to her.
The heat in this thread is interesting.
I like Emily and while she may have a lot to learn like someone from kotaku or any other outlet and it's understandable why she is being vague as these things change or maybe the source isn't being clear on the chips in question.
The drama surrounding it is silly and I do feel a bit sorry for her.