At the same time, they found another hospital, which was my other point. "If only those protesters protested on the sidewalks instead of one road out of many..." There's always a backup plan when these things happen.
If you have a critique for the resistance, for our resistance, then you better have an established record of critique of our oppression. If you have no interest in equal rights for black people, then do not make suggestions to those who do. Sit down.
Aren't interstates major arteries for travel? In some areas almost every road is built around them. 5-10 minutes in detouring can mean life or death for a victim in an ambulance. Is that a risk outweighed in the name of protest? I think it's a harder issue to approach than given credit for.
Aren't interstates major arteries for travel? In some areas almost every road is built around them. 5-10 minutes in detouring can mean life or death for a victim in an ambulance. Is that a risk outweighed in the name of protest? I think it's a harder issue to approach than given credit for.
Except the difference is very obvious to everyone who isn't being deliberately ignorant of the dangers. Yes, if no accident happened, it didn't cause an accident, did it? Congratulations with that true statement. But the potential -- hence the choice of the word -- is there, and not everyone takes that lightly.
Are you as outraged by parades as you are by protests?
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Are you as outraged by parades as you are by protests?
I agree. I know it is an unpopular opinion, but I used to work in Minneapolis, and it seems like there was a protest by some group at least once a week, and this was long before BLM. The last thing I want to do is be stuck in traffic for 2 hours after working a 12 hour day. I'm just a working class guy trying to get by, and this just made me frustrated. Oh well, glad I don't work in Minneapolis/St. Paul anymore.
Stay safe protesters.
Poor Nana Ruth. If only those protesters protested on the sidewalks instead of one road out of many, she hypothetically might have been here with us today.
I really can't believe how often this absolutely moronic idea comes up. Read a fucking history book. Or if books aren't your thing, just watch Arrested Development once, where they make an episode long joke out of this idiocy.What about designated areas closed off specifically so the protest can take place that are usually busy thoroughfares for travel? Seems like a good compromise vs potentially blocking emergency vehicles and further agitation between law enforcement and protesters.
I had no idea they'd send a heli out if traffic was blocked. That's pretty damn dedicated.Oddly enough, I have a story like this. My old landlord needed to go from New Bedford to Boston because his liver was failing, they drove an ambulance there, but traffic issues popped up half way there and they had to use one of those medical helicopters to get him to Boston. He didn't make it because of complications in the operating room later on, but he made it in time to live up to that point.
Then here's the million dollar question: does posting in this thread call my intent into doubt by talking about logistics?From Jesse Williams.
If you are so concerned about where people should protest and how they should do it, you are concerned about why they are doing it in the first place..... right? I mean safety of our citizens is important, right?
You've pretty much missed my point entirely. As long as emergency services have some way of operating I don't care what part of a city is closed for protesting.I really can't believe how often this absolutely moronic idea comes up. Read a fucking history book. Or if books aren't your thing, just watch Arrested Development once, where they make an episode long joke out of this idiocy.
Your false equivalences get old quick. Do you really need the explanation of why a predetermined event that closes the entire street and prevents dangers well before the event occurs is different?
I guess drivers in America are so enraged all the time that even viewing a traffic jam from the safety of their own home causes them to lash out.I think the better question are you actually outraged by what the protesters are protesting about because it sounds more like you'd rather make up hypothetical situations where protesting a nation wide, decades long ugly as a sin problem with America and its people is not as big a deal as having an open highway for a short period of time.
I had no idea they'd send a heli out if traffic was blocked. That's pretty damn dedicated.
Then here's the million dollar question: does posting in this thread call my intent into doubt by talking about logistics?
I don't know about Minnesotta but in Baton Rouge it is pretty easy to move around where the protests happened/are happening. Plenty of alternate routes that don't really reduce travel time all that much.Your false equivalences get old quick. Do you really need the explanation of why a predetermined event that closes the entire street and prevents dangers well before the event occurs is different?
I don't know why you guys operate with the assumption that most protests wouldn't be human enough to let a fucking ambulance through.You've pretty much missed my point entirely. As long as emergency services have some way of operating I don't care what part of a city is closed for protesting.
Open carry laws.How is there a protestor in the op carrying a shotgun?
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1. Another good story. Black in America launches in 2008. It's a big deal. The network has put lots of money into promoting it.
2. We are to announce at a big conference called TCA-the television critics association. Basically presenting our upcoming doc to tv critics
3. After my presentation, I'm asked several questions: how long did we shoot for? How did we find our 'characters'?
4. One reporter asks me my biggest takeaway. I tell him that our reporting on policing in the black community was most interesting.
5. I tell him that regardless of socioeconomic status, black people have the same, almost verbatim, conversation with their sons at age 13
6. Rich black people. Poor black people. Solidly middle class black people --all tell their 12, 13 year old sons the same thing:
7. "If you are stopped by the police, do not make any sudden movements. Do as he tells you. Don't say anything"
8. I tell the reporter that these parents are trying to save their sons lives, hence the strict instructions. (@RealDLHughley was interv'd)
9. I tell him that this is something the black community has known for a long time--but I think is interesting in this doc.
10. After my panel, my boss (really my boss' boss' boss) takes me aside. He says that story is not true. That white parents tell their sons
11. ..the same thing. To be respectful to the police. I say this is not the same. I have spent almost two years reporting this doc.
12. I tell him black parents are teaching their children how to survive an interaction w the police. It's actually quite different.
13. I am instructed to stop telling that story. (Because it clearly doesn't match the narrative he is comfortable with). So I do.
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protest where ever you want. it should be disruptive. At least the people aren't dragging people's out of their houses and mounting heads on pikes like they used to.
If you leave at least one lane open for an ambulance then it wouldn't even have the possibility of being an issue. Of course now that I've learned hospitals will send out helicopters if they need to that becomes less of a thing.I don't know why you guys operate with the assumption that most protests wouldn't be human enough to let a fucking ambulance through.
Where would you even find a pike these days? Amazon?
But me being Hispanic American and just as likely to have similar experiences as my African brethren I wonder if there is room for latino's to march along and protest with the BLM movement since Hispanics come in many shades of melanin.
Of course. They're doing it all over the country. There are hundreds, maybe thousands, of allied Latino groups, and people of color from all backgrounds are in BLM.But me being Hispanic American and just as likely to have similar experiences as my African brethren I wonder if there is room for latino's to march along and protest with the BLM movement since Hispanics come in many shades of melanin.
I guess the Spanish media hasn't caught on yet then.Of course. They're doing it all over the country. There are hundreds, maybe thousands, of allied Latino groups, and people of color from all backgrounds are in BLM.
This is an "everyone" issue. Nobody should be okay with how the police treat those better or worse because of skin color. Everyone should be pissed no matter your advantage or disadvantage law enforcement bestows you with.But me being Hispanic American and just as likely to have similar experiences as my African brethren I wonder if there is room for latino's to march along and protest with the BLM movement since Hispanics come in many shades of melanin.
But me being Hispanic American and just as likely to have similar experiences as my African brethren I wonder if there is room for latino's to march along and protest with the BLM movement since Hispanics come in many shades of melanin.
People could be peacefully protesting in a public park and the ignorant will still have a problem with it.
More relevant would be blocking a jogger on his morning run.But what if they're blocking the ant-bulance and it can't get to the ant hill in time?
But me being Hispanic American and just as likely to have similar experiences as my African brethren I wonder if there is room for latino's to march along and protest with the BLM movement since Hispanics come in many shades of melanin.
More relevant would be blocking a jogger on his morning run.
Sure. We can go that route if that's your intent.A jogger is not in a pressing need to get anywhere. What if you killed Flik? How could you explain that to the children of the world? You couldn't, you monster.