Seven Force
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Sonic Colors is perfectly playable with a controller. It supported the Classic Controller and the Gamecube controller. It'd be fine on a DS4.
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Sonic Mania (8-15-2017, SEGA/Taxman/Headcannon/PagodaWest, PS4/XB1/PC/NX)
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Sonic Colors is perfectly playable with a controller. It supported the Classic Controller and the Gamecube controller. It'd be fine on a DS4.
Super excited. Looks absolutely fantastic.
Well, in the case of Sonic CD, it saves the game. The Sega CD original runs like garbage. Constant slowdown that persists across the entire game. It's just not worth playing on original hardware now due to this issue. The Genesis games, though, are still great on hardware.
Dude, Mania looks better than that. That HD one looks so bland and sterile.
SatoAilDarko
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That's this game have an actual plot?
Ah, that's really sweet of Sega to let the romhackers make a game of their own this way. I'm very dubious of the level design that comes from this type of scene though, as it tends to be tangly and drawn out. I'm dreading some Freedom Planet style tedious unfocused levels that are only fun played as speed runs for certain.
I'm happy for those folk, though. They deserve to make this much more than anyone deserves the high res 2D Sonic game they'd wish for.
Honestly what really excites me about this is the possibility that this might be running on Christian Whitehead's own Retro Engine, which should please physics whiners as they can completely reuse the physics from the old Sonic games instead of trying to replicate them. Stealth being on the team is fantastic too, it was a pity that Taxman got hired for CD but Stealth wasn't despite making stuff like native ports of Sonic 1 to the GBA, Sonic CD to the NDS and some other really cool stuff. Glad they remedied that with Sonic 1+2, and glad they are back on the team alongside with Christian Whitehead.
Here's hoping it too will have workshop support. I'd love to see what the community would make with a new Sonic game.
Here's hoping it too will have workshop support. I'd love to see what the community would make with a new Sonic game.
CrimsonSquall
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This is whack to me. On some megaman 9/10 type shit. Don't get me wrong I loved those, I just hate when theres no innovation...
Even though ig they have failed numerous times, I still feel like there needs to be a new era of freshness or else the brand is being wasted on simplicity
STEALTH EDIT: Shit never saw Project Sonic 2017, I'll take everything I said back and hold this L
Even though ig they have failed numerous times, I still feel like there needs to be a new era of freshness or else the brand is being wasted on simplicity
STEALTH EDIT: Shit never saw Project Sonic 2017, I'll take everything I said back and hold this L
Jonneh3003
Banned
The visuals are a little too busy but I think this is the game we've been waiting for.
Yeah, I love the busy 90s aesthetic of Sonic CD. And it definitely looks like Mania is following in that look.
I'm all for it
This is my first time seeing this, and despite a couple of odd design choices, this is exactly what I expect a modern version of classic-style Sonic to look like.
Tarin02543
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Big fan of Whitehead's work, I've got SonicCD PSN + Steam and Sonic2 Android.
Will definitely buy this
Will definitely buy this
Android18a
Member
<3 This. This is what I want. Just pump it into my veins.
No words for how happy I am to see Christian Whitehead working on a fresh 2D Sonic game. Exactly what I've been asking for since the Sonic 2/CD remakes.
Sonic 4 2D visuals were really...dull and plastic looking. The controls were incredibly stiff, the music didnt sound anything like classic or even modern Sonic expectations, and I could go on...but you get the idea.
http://www.tssznews.com/2016/07/23/sonic-25th-party-heres-more-sonic-mania-studiopolis-gameplay/
Footage from tssz.
By the way, does this mean Sonic Megamix is dead?
Valkyri von Thanatos
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You'll love this.
I think I prefer Sonic 3&K in both categories, but Sonic CD is up there. The style of music definitely seems to live on, which I love, since it isn't a typical "bit-y" sound that one would expect (which I also love but is less unique). The vocal samples of "Lights Camera Action" just seems so right. (See above)
Compare to "Sonic 4", episode 2's music was alright, but episode 1 was embarrassingly bad.
Seven Force
Banned
Yes.
Hilariously enough:
Again, I felt it appropriate to share this information now rather than later, but it's still going to be a while before any of what I have planned surfaces. For now, I'll still be hard at work on the contract project. It's looking like I'll actually be able to reveal (not release) it in the near future, and I feel like many people will be pretty pleased with it if all goes well. Naturally, I'm biased, but I hope you'll agree that it's time well-spent
-Stealth
Seems pretty obvious in hindsight that he was talking about Mania.
AcademicSaucer
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Like the iOS Megaman X?
There are no words
I gotta repost that Gamespot link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ8EedQJk7Y
This soundtrack! The boss theme is on point and Studiopolis...its definitely taking a Sonic CD JP/EU vibe and running with it. Maximum hype.
In that case, I hope they get to use Starry Night Zone in the game, or at least the newest music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ8EedQJk7Y
This soundtrack! The boss theme is on point and Studiopolis...its definitely taking a Sonic CD JP/EU vibe and running with it. Maximum hype.
In that case, I hope they get to use Starry Night Zone in the game, or at least the newest music.
Jonneh3003
Banned
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiB2fA6F1iI
Three tracks from GameXplain, not sure if its been posted
Edit: Yep beaten
Three tracks from GameXplain, not sure if its been posted
Edit: Yep beaten
Yeah, Sonic 4's visuals were really bad, even back when it was first released. It really gave of an impression of a cheap NSMB, at least to me.
How many Sega CD's are alive and kicking nowadays, anyways? It can't be that many, as a lot of those old CD drives kick the bucket pretty easily. The only other way to play it outside of the recent release is the Sonic Gems Collection AFAIK.
Mr.Fletcher
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The music is killer.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1122548
A little solder and you're good to go
Maybe I need to sit down with the original Sonic CD again, because I dont remember much slowdown.
Holy shit, that music is great. It's like a sequel to Sonic CD!
Ha, oh yeah, hadn't thought of that. I have two working Sega CD systems here so I still do play Sega CD games here and there. The flip-top units seem pretty reliable but those original tray units aren't great, from what I understand.
The Gems Collection version of Sonic CD isn't great either, though, as it's based on the PC port. It has some odd things that I don't like (such as the loading screens between every transition). For me, the PS360PC release of Sonic CD is easily the best of the best.
Dude, it is BAAAADDDD. The frame-rate cuts in half regularly which results in slow motion gameplay.http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1122548
A little solder and you're good to go
Maybe I need to sit down with the original Sonic CD again, because I dont remember much slowdown.
You can tell that Naka and crew had moved onto Sonic 2 since it feels like the Sonic CD team just took the Sonic 1 engine and squeezed too much into it without making improvements.
ArchedThunder
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My only problem with the game so far is that the first zone is Green Hill.
That shit is so played out at this point, I would rather something new.
That shit is so played out at this point, I would rather something new.
Thanks for the link. I've been waiting for someone to post Sonic Mania music on YouTube.
It's early days yet but Studiopolis Zone looks amazing. I can easily see it becoming one of my zones in any sonic game.
Shadow Hog
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Tee Lopes, apparently.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1122548
A little solder and you're good to go
Maybe I need to sit down with the original Sonic CD again, because I dont remember much slowdown.
I remember the Bonus Stages running a lot slower than the re-release, but that's about it. Game ruining? I don't believe so.
Azure Phoenix
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I have to admit, the trailer didn't wow me since I've seen countless Sonic fangames over the years that look basically like this, but the Studiopolis music absolutely nails the JP/EU Sonic CD style so I'm definitely on board the hype train now.
Azure Dream
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He even does a little variation of the removed "Uppercut" end-stage celebration from Sonic 1.
I've grown to *HATE* the word innovation. Screw innovation.
We need more hyper-polished games that build on existing ideas. Use that experience to perfect something rather than trying to make something different just for the sake of it.
Honestly, when I read the word "innovation" in regards to games, it's actually a huge turn-off. You need to reach perfection before moving onto innovation.
Heh, yeah, on the flip-side, I'm disappointed to see that. I'd be more OK with it if they turn that level on its head part way through - which wouldn't be innovation, by the way, just good design.
You remember wrong. Sonic CD constantly jumps between 30 and 60fps during normal 2D gameplay. Anytime the screen is filled with sprites, the game speed cuts in half. It happens. A lot. The bonus stages do run at like 15fps on Sega CD, but that's not what I'm referring to. The whole game runs dramatically slower than the Genesis games.
...which makes me think I need to do a DF Retro episode on Sonic CD in the future with frame-rate analysis to demonstrate what I'm talking about.
Valkyri von Thanatos
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Thanks for the footage. Looks great! I think I saw a spinning ring if silver rings near the end? And yeah, Sonic 4's (especially episode 1's) visuals were weird and indeed, "platic-y". Like they just had no idea how to properly translate the checkerboard look into a proper HD aesthetic. Mania looks 100x better.
I hope they can bring over Megamix work that they feel would fit, but I bet that they'd want what they do on Mania to be fresh, because I think polishing older material can sometimes be more difficult and less effective than simply taking what one has learned and applying it onto a new project completely.
I posted it just a bit earlier. It sounds perfect right? Very Sonic CD!
HOLY SHIT
They should get the guy who did the music in this video to work on Sonic Mania
Awesome! Who's doing the music?
nah, i wish they got the guys from those sonic before/after the sequel fangames ;(
User 479360
Banned
This makes me wish that I enjoyed Sonic. I did as a kid -- when I'd play it at a friend's from time to time -- but don't find much enjoyment in the games anymore.
Seven Force
Banned
I just noticed the lamp posts in that TSSZ video are re-purposed Marble Zone UFOs from the Sonic 1 beta.
This game, man
This game, man
Jonneh3003
Banned
I've got 3 working ones, never had any issues.
I wouldn't call many games nowadays "innovative" anyway, at least not in ways most people can see and understand. So at that end it's pretty pointless other than marketing.
Megamix just isn't that good to begin with. The level design is way too busy.
That's always a problem I have with attempts to make new levels in classic engines - people try to make something that is far more complex than the original game. I see it with Doom wads as well. Those levels which try to present designs more closely in line with the original games tend to be a lot more fun.
Quite true and, honestly, I don't care.
As I said, I wish developers would focus more on refining great ideas rather than searching for something new and different.
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