SaganIsGOAT
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Cool, thanks for this. These threads are a nightmare to follow so when I saw updates in the op I figured it was up to date lol
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A polite discourse amongst friends on the importance of MP-elements in No Man's Sky
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Cool, thanks for this. These threads are a nightmare to follow so when I saw updates in the op I figured it was up to date lol
MassiveNights
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RichiRamjag
Member
Not at all. Don't be a goofball about it.
Over the course of development, I saw the guy give mixed answers in both directions. I've seen him say that it's not a multiplayer game multiple times and go back on that multiple times. I could care less about his appearance (seriously?), his messaging never gave me any clarity. Burn him at the stake for being ambiguous, but if you 100% thought multiplayer was going to be in, then I'm not the one who was being willfully ignorant. I'm not the one who loses my shit when iffy information ends up not being in my favor.
A GAF thread and the NMS Subreddit explode*
Sakura
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500 million planets per player and yet people are already finding planets that have been discovered by other players. The majority of people are going to ignore the vast majority of planets and just follow the path to the centre. Naturally those paths will probably intersect.
Zomba13
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And he's also explicitly said you have the ability to see and meet and interact to some degree with other players if you happen to be on the same planet at the same time.
How is this so hard to understand?
But he's also, in at least one interview, mentioned how he doesn't see Dark Souls or Journey as multiplayer, in the same way No Man's Sky was talked about as not being "multiplayer". The meeting players and stuff was always talked about in a vauge, mystery way but always distanced from something like CoD or Destiny where you explicitally join people through menu options and always likened to something like Journey or Dark Souls (with the shades) where it's done without your input to random people.
Seriously, I don't think anyone expected this to be a game where you hop into a PSN party, click "join game", get matchmade with your party into a Team Death Match and then go build a sand castle out of Minecraft blocks on your private server. People did however expect, on the rare chance it ever happened, that when two people were on the same planet at the same time that they would be able to see each other and interact to some degree (see the interviews where he mentions "a little bit" to a question on griefing and "you can't see yourself but can see other players and it's th eonly way you'll know what you look like").
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Ya can't even find strangers, but he absolutely said you could all go to the same planet and after some time searching you can go find each other. He lied or changed plans without telling people honestly.
Watched this for the first time. There's nothing in that video that tells me anything other than I might see someone else at random (maybe) or that "griefing" is anything other than leaving a message, or a trap, or just talking trash while on the same planet...LOL.
I guess it's as vague as everything else.
I'm still on the wait and see train. Can't decide if I'm buying the game soon or not.
Saint of Killers
Member
They have been for me, both last night and this morning. The icon on the pause screen keeps flitting between off and online. It's my biggest bugbear with the game as I assume uploads to Atlas are pointless when the game isn't connecting to servers.
TheKastorian
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Basically it comes down to this: Want to enjoy a game? Stay away from NeoGAF until you've finished it. Such negativity over something no one will even remember in a couple of months.
ClosingADoor
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Then why did the developer say on multiple occasion that certain multiplayer features would be there, while they aren't? And why can't that be confirmed or denied AFTER the game has launched now.
Durrzerker
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Lol damn Gog.com throwing some subtle shade here:
IMACOMPUTA
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The topic of this thread is about not seeing other players. Your post is off-topic. Go have fun with the game yourself.
I don't think the feature not currently being implemented is causing the backlash.
It's more down to the way the message has been given to consumers. It's not clear, that's all people are asking for at this stage. No one likes to be left guessing.
Simply stating that it's something that will be in the game but currently not implemented would have drastically cut down on the reactions.
Obviously you'll still get a few people complaining, but it's the internet and people love to find anything to complain about.
AcademicSaucer
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No one would've exploded if anyone from Hello Games just came out before release and said definitively "Yeah this got cut, sorry. Shit happens. We might try to bring it back later."
Instead it's been radio silence, which is unacceptable even for a team as small as them. All it took was one tweet to prevent any of this. A simple Yes or No answer.
MMaRsu
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I don't have a horse in this race, but claiming that online multiplayer/interactivity is a minor feature is ludicrous.
But then...why would they say that the only way you could see what you look like is through another player?
Why would they say that the chances of finding another player are incredibly slim?
Why would you ignore the entire thread when this has been shown through videos over and over?
Let's hear your excuse, because there has yet to be an apologist here that has convinced everyone.
MassiveNights
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Yeah I haven't connected stable yet and I am worried someone comes along and renames all my shit.
Depends on the context of the game. It was never billed as a big part of NMS.
SaganIsGOAT
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I honestly thought we would have Journey esque moments in this game 😕
RichiRamjag
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He was definitely wrong in the way he provided the information, no doubt about that. I'm just saying that with all his mixed messaging, i don't get why folks thought they'd be meeting up and flying with their buds. I'm just a pessimist though.
It doesn't matter what you value more in a game. That's beside the point. This is about the principle of the matter. Unless there's a technical issue or the feature is on the way in a near-future patch, Sean Murray lied on Stephen Colbert's show and a bunch of other places. This is not something to debate, this is a fact.
I understand that a lot of people here are very much in love with the game and desire it to be the greatest thing ever, but this is a problem whether you go all-out with the mental gymnastics or not.
MMaRsu
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It really wouldnt. Yall would find some other shit to bitch over.
This game has been getting critisicm from people who seem to stupid to read a single english sentence, and yes these are the " what do you do though???" people.
Now they dont have the game and are on a crusade to turn thus into a forced multiplayer thing.
When someone asks you "Will you be able to play with your friends?" and you say "Yes", that's kind of the idea people are going to get.
ClosingADoor
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He said it could happen. But it can't because you can't see each other. Which of the two is it? The feature is there or not. If it is, then why didn't it work?
If it is not, then why did the developer say on multiple occasions it was there and why are they refusing to say anything about it now.
It's just strange and confusing.
I think you are more upset about this then about 99% of people in this thread judging by the tone.
Chezzymann
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He never straight up said before the past week that it was not possible, just very unlikely. Combined with the handful of quotes where he did say you could see other players, and I could think you could see how others felt mislead.
He said on Stephen Colbert something along the lines of "The only way you will know what you look like is when someone else sees you"
Pop
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The moment the PC version is properly out = OOOOOPS my bad guys here is an update
No need. Explanation is right here
https://youtu.be/1ORFgfhj_hM
2:40 and 4:00
Alright, pack it up!
Edit: Video is from March
MMaRsu
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He lied? Maybe the feature was there and didnt make it. You know like a million other games have shit that doesnt make it.
Remember when Bioshock Infinite showed gameplay trailers that looked like very cool encounters but in the full game all you got were waves of enemies? Mechanics that were just gone?
Where was the outrage for that? Oh right there wasnt. I didnt see people calling for Ken Levines head on a pike then.
RichiRamjag
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When someone gives another 10 interviews and refutes that, I start to wonder what the fuck is going on rather than act surprised and shocked when they end up being full of crap. You act like he's never said the opposite multiple times.
Saint of Killers
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People really need to stop this, or should I accuse you of being wilfully blind to how the game works just to push your agenda? Anyway, you point out what Murray says as though the only way essential cooperation can exist between players is if both players are in the same location at the same time. Also your quote (if that's what he actually said) doesn't really help because unless he gave specifics, which I'm gonna guess he didn't xD, means his statement on what constitutes essential cooperation is open to interoperation. That' s a fact. Not me spinning anything.
edit: can't watch the video right now.
You act like he didn't say the opposite of your opposite multiple times.
MMaRsu
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Right, which doesnt actually mean that its possible for that to happen though.
yall made a good little forced narrative here and a fun little wich hunt. good luck
Knowing what we know now and rewatching these videos you get the feeling a lot of Mr Murray's quirkiness was actually him wrestling with digging himself deeper and deeper into a hole he knew he'd never climb out of.
That being said i'm honestly having fun with the game. Bought it because the hype bit me watching the leaks and i'm pleased with what it is but actual MP elements would have given the game crazy long legs and break up the monotony.
That being said i'm honestly having fun with the game. Bought it because the hype bit me watching the leaks and i'm pleased with what it is but actual MP elements would have given the game crazy long legs and break up the monotony.
Kssio_Aug
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I wasnt aware of that. But they probably took that down because of the "optional" word? I mean, doesn't the game requires to be online so it can procedurally generate new planets and species?
IMACOMPUTA
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The irony of a grammatical error while calling out other people's reading skills aside -- forced multiplayer? The fucking dev claimed it was possible. The "could" was based on the small likelihood that you'd actually be in the same place at the same time.
ClosingADoor
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So when a developer says "You know what you look like when someone sees you" that does not indicate someone can see you?
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Sources are all over this thread. He said the only way to know what your character looks like is to ask another player you encounter. He has also mentioned killing other players you run into. He has said if 100 players landed on a planet, they'd eventually be able to run into each other despite the giant planet sizes. He has said you can find and play with your friends.
RichiRamjag
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I actually don't, I've said that he was ambiguous multiple times. When someone gives conflicting information over a feature, I can no longer get hyped over that feature, that's common sense. Many chose to ignore that and purchased it anyhow.
He just meant that you and your friends can play in the same room and pass the controller.
They've also said explicitly on multiple occasions that this is a multiplayer game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE0nuW-mQ8A
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