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New disappointment discovered : No Man's Sky (CrowbCat)
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Spieler Eins
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Depends on whether Sony wants to put marketing behind it again.
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Raiden1018
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Sales don't mean shit in this case because the quality of the game itself is pretty bad.
So whoever hyped themselves up based on whatever Sean said was played
like a damn fiddle
They "damage" each other.
Sometimes creatures don't even have an animation or anything.
They just stand there and you get damage for being somewhere in their vicinity.
I imagine it has to deal with the procedural generation.
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As far as playing without gathering resources, virtually no.
You can run around a planet, but that honestly isn't fun nor allows you to experience the full game.
You need to gather resources/craft etc. to use your ship, trade with NPCs, get better gear etc.
DAMN THAT GT LIVE GUY!
He was so on point. It is hard to ask questions about a game that has a very strong defense force.
As soon as the video started i busted out laughing. I already knew what time it was.
He was so on point. It is hard to ask questions about a game that has a very strong defense force.
As soon as the video started i busted out laughing. I already knew what time it was.
PapaEmeritus
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Boggled where hype came from- they made Joe Danger.
That'd be like the creators of Excitebike making Majoras Mask
I mean a team can create great things but this got way out of hand
That'd be like the creators of Excitebike making Majoras Mask
I mean a team can create great things but this got way out of hand
Garmonbozia
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Sweet Jesus, that was brutal.
How far has Sean Murray fallen on the public eye. From indie dev darling to being accused of being a liar of almost pathological levels.
How far has Sean Murray fallen on the public eye. From indie dev darling to being accused of being a liar of almost pathological levels.
Not my intent. Just pointing out that, at the end of the day, Sean is set for life and all the complaining in the world isn't going to 'teach him a lesson.'
Napalm_Frank
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So somebody spoilertag for me, what is at the center of the universe lol?
deltacanuckian
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What's even more childish are the outbursts of legitimate anger and hatred in the aftermath. It's painful to read, especially as someone who is actually enjoying themselves with the game. Sure, I had hopes it would be grander than it was. I also knew it was a team of like... 10 people working on this thing and that I should temper my expectations a bit.
NinjaCoachZ
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All I'm going to say is the hyperbolic levels of pre-release anticipation for games, to the level of giving awards to games that aren't even out yet... That shouldn't happen. By giving yourself unrealistic expectations of what a game should be
I haven't been following this game too closely but there always was the impression of what the game is being somewhat wishy-washy, from how it was presented, described by the devs, etc. I think everyone in the community just got waaaayy too carried away with things.
People need to stop doing this to themselves and press sites, publishers, etc. need to stop encouraging that.
Of course, the sheer levels of rage and accusing the devs of being Total Scumbags is no less childish. There's backlash and then there's people seemingly revelling in their misfortunes. Everything about this game is just testament to the fact that the game industry still has a lot of growing up to do.
Then again, it feels like this happens with every major AAA release, so who knows when things will change.
I haven't been following this game too closely but there always was the impression of what the game is being somewhat wishy-washy, from how it was presented, described by the devs, etc. I think everyone in the community just got waaaayy too carried away with things.
People need to stop doing this to themselves and press sites, publishers, etc. need to stop encouraging that.
Of course, the sheer levels of rage and accusing the devs of being Total Scumbags is no less childish. There's backlash and then there's people seemingly revelling in their misfortunes. Everything about this game is just testament to the fact that the game industry still has a lot of growing up to do.
Then again, it feels like this happens with every major AAA release, so who knows when things will change.
Raiden1018
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Absolutely nothing. Lol. That ending song actually plays when you warp to the center. Its just a brown dirt planet with toxic air or something. Lmao
Because everyone shares your opinion of the game.
I don't know what's going on, but that's hilarious.
Didn't people continue to buy Lionhead games while Molineux was there?
You literally cannot leave the first planet without playing the 'collect resource' game.
TheOfficeMut
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Yes, people have unrealistic expectations sometimes, but to watch that video and the things he's said over the past two years and not attribute any blame to his ambiguous ass is quite something.
I think the Trump campaign - however much of one exists - would appreciate your rationale.
Ninja Scooter
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Where do I say anything resembling this? My initial post in this thread was directed at someone still claiming that nobody knew "what you do" in this game. The core gameplay loop was known, and it is what they said it would be. The features around that are absolutely questionable in terms of whether they delivered or not.
You say "surprise surprise it's staged" but why is that some magical hand-waving statement that absolves Hello Games of not having features or experience as the game is going to include, while also mentioning that this is just a random planet anyone can get to?
Uncharted 4, Assassin's Creed etc. demos aren't nearly as egregious.
Why is it that we should just assume that NMS's multiple "'real demos'/trailers/dev comments" are in no way indicative of the game?
You should feel bad for people that bought the game expecting that all the features that he lied about.
If you actually watched the video the amount of lies he told was disgusting.
Salty Hippo
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It honestly illustrates everything that's wrong with the bullshit hypetrain that those guys ride on. Jones is one of the very few exceptions, so I'm not surprised he was gangbanged by that bunch of idiots for expressing obvious concerns.
Thank fucking god for sites like Giant Bomb.
Cob32
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I would assume that Hello Games has profit sharing, and if so then all 15 of those employees should be millionaires.
pretty done
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They got hit real bad with Steam refunds though. Everyone I know refunded it including myself and the concurrent number dropped off huge after day 1. Poor PS4 folk who can't refund
Leafhopper
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You warp to the center, and it does this dramatic zoom out of all the other planets you can go to and it says "New galaxy discovered" and you start over, like a NG+
Coolade
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I recommend you check out just a sample of his other masterpieces
Ubisoft downgrades
Watch Dogs : my "true next-gen experience"
CSGO hysteria and forgotten TF2 design
Are you shitting me?!? LOL!
Complicated
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A ridiculous yet thorough look at all the bullshit that was peddled. Sean Murray probably should never do press for a game again.
Pretty sure I won too, because I am enjoying the game immensely.
Crimsonclaw111
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"from the creators of No Man's Sky" will definitely turn a lot of people away.
As for my own opinion, game is boring as hell but not the worst ever. So if you wanted it flat out, there you go.
Despite their broken promises those also reviewed well up until about the time that franchise crapped itself.
VeryGooster
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The last like 45 seconds of that killed me lol
Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule
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This video had to be done.
People buying this kind of game are hurting the industry
People buying this kind of game are hurting the industry
No doubt.
sono
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I dont know if that is representative or not, but it is hilarious
They got hit real bad with Steam refunds though. Everyone I know refunded it including myself and the concurrent number dropped off huge after day 1. Poor PS4 folk who can't refund
Steamspy takes into account refunds and it's just sitting shy of 700k, so I'm not sure where you're getting that from. Your anecdote doesn't add up to the numbers.
Arkham Knight, which was in a much worse place than this, had around a 10% refund rate, so I can't see it exceeding that.
Cob32
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Lol I'm still expecting the scooby doo gang to run in during his next appearance and rip his mask off to reveal Peter molyneux.
ebullientprism
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You can tell when someone doesnt even bother checking out what the thread is about.
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
WIll do thanks
Omega Kirby
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Good god, Sean's reputation is in the trash now
Ninja Scooter
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Here comes that reasonable discourse I was talking about.
He was asking the questions that mattered.
It takes a real special breed of game to make emergent gameplay compelling. I agree with ArsTechnica that NMS has a technically remarkable engine, but it is unfortunately backed by unremarkable gameplay mechanics/infrastructure. It's certainly does not provide the player with enough tools to craft their own gameplay loop or narrative.
I completely agree with the parts where you mention Murray was easy to market, but I still think he was shown to the press before he really had all of the answers to the hard questions. Namely the multiplayer issue, and just what it is you do in the game, aside from reaching the center of the galaxy. He knows how to evade certain questions, but I think he needs more media training in order to know how to dodge questions in a way that won't hurt him or his game.
Don't you need resources for your life support systems i.e. just to walk around? I don't own the game btw, that's what I've seen in some streams.
All you need to know is the ending was the most disingenuous thing a developer can do to the fans/players. I was wtfing for a long time when I finished watching it.
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