TheCanisDirus
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I mean i enjoyed my time in NMS for what it was but this video man.... brutal truth. Just goes to show we need to be much more careful as consumers. :/
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New disappointment discovered : No Man's Sky (CrowbCat)
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Raiden1018
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Can someone find that tweet with the Sony exec praising hello games for what was at the center of the galaxy? 😂😂
Bumblebeetuna
Member
Fuck I am in tears.
adamantypants
Member
You know, I didn't expect anything from this game other than flying around different planets looking at stuff. I clicked on those spoiler tags, and just LOL. I don't think I need to play this game anymore.
It's not questionable though.
Features shown in "live demos" and in Sean's own words have been ripped from the game. This is very clear cut, I hope.
Additionally, Sean's claims that you didn't need to constantly be gathering resources were intentionally obtuse.
Factions/trade outposts/ship classes/participating in war/scan to meet up with other players purposefully were used to make players think NMS was bigger than it was. Blatantly or by heavy insinuation.
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Edit: People casually playing the game just hoping to explore without a constant need to mine Carbon/Plutonium, as Sean said, also are going to be disappointed.
GeordieMark
Member
Lionhead games were much better than this half-baked rubbish, except The Journey. Even Fable 3 has more going on for it than this.
TheOfficeMut
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Are you for real?
How is that? It's not like people buying and enjoying the game is preventing other games from meeting their potential. If anything it'll help tone down the over hype that games receive these days.
StereoVsn
Member
Great video and actually talks about the tough points. The video does illustrate all the BS Sean pulled. It worked for him too as the sales are very good.
Just shows that Dev lying before launch plus Hype machine will sell game copies. Now, whether or not it will work on their next game, who knows, will depend if they manage to patch shit up and then will depend on marketing.
Just shows that Dev lying before launch plus Hype machine will sell game copies. Now, whether or not it will work on their next game, who knows, will depend if they manage to patch shit up and then will depend on marketing.
Oh my god I'm dying
Leafhopper
Banned
Oh, yeah I think so. I guess you can't then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO-6XpiLMlE
There will still people that will say people are making this up despite this though.
DodgyGeezerFella
Member
Ouch ...... Valve smh
The bit about TF2 and how things like the silhouettes of players were important ..... what happened .....
money
Mass_Pincup
Banned
They may be right but it's a small team of only 15 people, they don't have the resources of AAA productions. What they accomplished is already impressive enough.
habithipster
Member
Relevant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQfzION3MQk (00:37)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQfzION3MQk (00:37)
Lol like Destiny? Reading this forum around the time Destiny was released you would think the game flopped.
GeordieMark
Member
Price it accordingly then. I don't really care how many people made the game. I care about whether it's any good. Team size is irrelevant.
Absolutely on point. The fact that 3 other dudes who are supposed to be journalists were just looking at him, dumbfounded, is why games press is so bad. They're just low-rent PR for the most part. The press should have been savaging Murray for all his overhyping and vague comments. Letting a dev get away with not revealing features of the game to "avoid spoilers" and shit like that is appalling.
I enjoy No Man's Sky more than any of the Fable games other than the original for sure. Could challenge that one too.
I don't disagree with you. This is a really interesting situation to watch though. How much was misinformation vs how much was our imaginations filling in the blanks with promises the developers never made, but may have vaguely alluded to either intentionally or not.
I really wanted this game to introduce an element that could actually interest me, but instead, it's coming off as precisely as uninvolved as I was feeling it was from day one. Yeah, the scale is cool and crazy. Doesn't seem like there's much of a point to it though. Going from one planet to another very similar planet, to another vaguely similar planet, to another vaguely similar planet doesn't get me all ecstatic...
TemplaerDude
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There's no doubt that Sean Murray promised and underdelivered a lot in this game, he is certainly on record stating a lot of things that just aren't true. The big difference between myself and most people in this thread, however, is I sincerely doubt the guy lied, I sincerely doubt that he was out to steal our money, I lean more towards giving him the benefit of doubt and believe he's just a guy with big dreams who tried really hard and, quite frankly, delivered something we haven't really seen before.
That does not forgive him for his mistakes or his over-promising, I am a fan of the game and plan on continue playing it, but I will still hold him accountable for fixing the glaring issues the game has and hopefully putting in some of the content he promised before, but the idea that he straight up maliciously tried to con everyone into buying this game is incredibly tired bullshit.
This game has developed a pretty passionate hate group, though, and I really don't feel like doing the "defend the developers" wank on here, so you all can have your little circle jerk.
That does not forgive him for his mistakes or his over-promising, I am a fan of the game and plan on continue playing it, but I will still hold him accountable for fixing the glaring issues the game has and hopefully putting in some of the content he promised before, but the idea that he straight up maliciously tried to con everyone into buying this game is incredibly tired bullshit.
This game has developed a pretty passionate hate group, though, and I really don't feel like doing the "defend the developers" wank on here, so you all can have your little circle jerk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opr_XFCF0lA&feature=youtu.be&t=7700 - Mini-rant about EA right after their E3 conference, of course in this case, everyone else was with him (it's done once they start talking about bets)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP861atZOzg&feature=youtu.be&t=5368 - His reaction to the same battlefield 1 trailer making a 3rd appearance at the MS conference is pretty damn funny too
hobblygobbly
Member
There is no "ending". Once you get 10 atlas stones and sent to the centre of the galaxy the game simply goes into essentially "new game plus". You wake up on a random planet again like you did when you first started. That's it. I think there are some hints with the priest Nada that mentions "simulation" in passing, so some people think the ending the way it is holds that the whole game's universe is a simulation (in the same way there's the simulation theory of our universe).
Personally I knew what the game would play like based on the genre its in. The problem I have and some other people probably have is that they were selling things like planets having an eco system, huge creatures, huge structures, huge space battles, and the idea that in their vast galaxy there is a chance you might run into someone else. Instead we don't get any kind of multi and the game does not look like the trailers or game play demos that have been done.
I feel like Hello Games bullshitted me.
GeordieMark
Member
The first two Fable games piss on this from a tremendous height. How far in are you?
vpance
Member
Many top AAA games can be boiled down to a few simple repeated actions, especially once you take into account how stupid VG storylines and cutscenes can be. It all depends on how much you buy into the game world.
I don't particularly mind the technical problems -- I'm very sympathetic to that when it's a small studio.
I can also forgive some little white lies or embellishments or features having to be cut ...
Ultimately the problem is that the game is shallow and limited. I don't feel like I even got close to $60 worth. I'd feel okay with it for having witnessed the tech and dinked around a little at the $15 price point.
I can also forgive some little white lies or embellishments or features having to be cut ...
Ultimately the problem is that the game is shallow and limited. I don't feel like I even got close to $60 worth. I'd feel okay with it for having witnessed the tech and dinked around a little at the $15 price point.
TheOfficeMut
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Oooooooooooooohhhhhh that was what was happening at the end of the video from the OP.
God damn.
Totalbiscuit also had a good sum up about how the game was presented and how it ended up with such a big hype
https://youtu.be/JCG9YLeIB98
https://youtu.be/JCG9YLeIB98
Ninja Scooter
Member
I agree with you, "questionable" was a generous take on my part. But I'm speaking more to the core gameplay loop. I went in expecting a resource gathering game and that's what I got, it's just not as good of one as I was expecting. That's not at all to excuse the lack of delivering on other promised features, don't get me wrong.
I herby award him the title... Sean Murrayneux.
streetsahead123
Banned
This game is gonna have awful legs. Tons of hype pre-release and mostly lukewarm word of mouth almost immediately after.
FleetingFlowAir
Member
I remember when people, mostly here at GAF, were mocking those who were asking "What do you do in this game". Now all of that vagueness has led to the game being overall a disappointment.
rip Spoole & Joel
Also when playing the game if you can't look around the space ship cockpit with the right stick, it means your in a loading screen such as jumping to a new system. Even the whole travel anywhere is lies.
I honestly expect Sean Murray to push out a few free patches and paid expansions with a NMS2 with the tag line,"Everything NMS should have been."
I honestly expect Sean Murray to push out a few free patches and paid expansions with a NMS2 with the tag line,"Everything NMS should have been."
Crimsonclaw111
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PdotMichael
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Looking how defensive people on GAF reacted to anything that didn't look like a hype post a negative preview or feature would be like giving Zelda 8/10.
Holy shit, this is amazing. It took all of my willpower not to crack up immediately.
MaximusPayne
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I've had fun with the game, but this video was hilarious. It does make me a little sad that I paid full price for it, though.
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