Sylas is right that we should see how it plays out, but this post reminded me of those "plots that wouldn't work anymore because everyone has cell phones now" lists...except everyone does have cell phones.
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FFXV Hands-On Impressions
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Sylas is right that we should see how it plays out, but this post reminded me of those "plots that wouldn't work anymore because everyone has cell phones now" lists...except everyone does have cell phones.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
It's possible there is some contrivance for why their phone is off.
I've seen that program. It's interesting but only for newcomers. If you're a fan, you won't learn something new but it's quite cool to see some behind the scenes.
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Deleted member 20920
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In the 52 min gameplay video, you can see the party wondering why the comms tower was down. I think that's alluding to sabotage of comms systems by the empire. And with regards to the distance between where the party is at and where Lucis is, the map, as big as it is, is still a scaled representation of how vast the world actually is. I can buy that the party is too far from Lucis to see or hear anything. And that the refugees of Lucis are still not near them. I do agree that they should have more scenes too to show the invasion itself.
Sure. Maybe the Empire could find Noctis by tracing calls to him from people in Insomnia or something. Either way it's not something I particularly care about, just thought it was funny.
artsi
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Some asshole forgot to bring phone chargers...
(Prompto)
But yeah, comm/cell towers down kinda gets rid of the whole, "Well everyone has cell phones" problem.
Altissia.
Good point about TV, Radio or just some NPC commenting on it. About insiders, though, I'd assume that's intentional, since Regis wanted Noctis to be far away from there in order to spare him. Hopefully already in Altissia, but he was still close enough to go back, and Cor was the one to stop him from getting back into Insomnia.
It is a pretty weird scenario, though. I feel like something more believable would be if they were in on the inevitable invasion, and also tasked with keeping the news from Noctis, but none of them getting that information until the newspaper comes out is indeed very unlikely.
That actually makes a lot of sense.
Let's wait for the final and full game to come out.
In the 50 minutes video they cut away most of all cutscenes. These cutscenes are probably pretty crucial to the plot and are explaining a lot of things.
butman
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Yeah, it's been know for a while that the hooded guy is Ravus.
Demoskinos
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That...seems like an normal reaction a person would have in his situation. Like I'd rather him actually have emotions as opposed to having no personality.
Yappadappadu
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I'm fine with that as long as the Neo patch doesn't take several extra months to be released. If that's the case, might as well wait for the PC version.
Thanks, I'll check it out.
For those who can watch it as well, it airs at 22:45 CET.
Thanks, will add to my post.
Whiny angst(and in the context the writer provided) is not the only way to convey personality in a character. As he writes it it also seems forced. Melodramatic.
This series has made it basically a staple for too long. Frustrating to seemingly see it continuing on in another iteration. Maybe it's just a coincidence but history would say otherwise.
Even 12, which I would argue has had the best story in possibly all of the series, was strongly hurt when SE decided they just had to shoe horn in an angsty teen for perceived demographic purposes....A demographic I might add that has aged considerably since 7/8.
I have a feeling this game will end up ok, but for me that is not really enough to sit through what is shaping up to be a mediocre story with questionable characterization and Ho Hum gameplay. Not to mention it's just getting ugly to look at.
LouisaFerre
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Yeah, I think the issue, and the reason a lot of people might be put off by Noctis response, isn't that they want a character who doesn't have feelings, but rather that those feelings fall flat in the player. If the game throws you into an emotional scene like that without setting it up in any real way, it's going to come off as melodramatic to the player. At that point it's not about Noctis being a baby, it's about the game expecting me to be sad without providing any meaningful reason for me to be.
There's a dengeki ffxv event on Aug 28. The ATR is on this day too. And Shuhei Yoshida is also on this list apparently.
https://twitter.com/RedMakuzawa/status/768297555188822016
There will also be a one hour FFXV panel at PAX on September 3rd by Tabata focused on gameplay/combat.
NoctisVsStar
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There's a dengeki ffxv event on Aug 28. The ATR is on this day too. And Shuhei Yoshida is also on this list apparently.
https://twitter.com/RedMakuzawa/status/768297555188822016
XV bundle incoming.
Dark_castle
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Leaving a huge chunk of the lore and the world building out of the game into the movie and anime might have been a grave mistake. I have no doubt that the game will further build upon the elements established in the Kingsglaive (between Regis, Luna, Cor and the relationship with the enemy nation) as well as Brotherhood (mainly the 4 guys, and a bit around others), but there might come a point in time when players who have watched neither the movie or anime just couldn't get invested into the game, for instance, guys like OP.
From his impression, the game seems to imply that player have actually watched Kingsglaive at least, so players could understand the gravitas of the invasion, the betrayal of Niflheim over the treaty, and the sacrifice that king Regis made for his son, so Noctis's outcry and emotional burst would have a deeper impact on player and allow us to sympathise with him. Now instead, we get short glimpse of Regis sending Noctis away, telling him to leave with his entourage, some quick conversations and then having Noctis finds out the invasion away in the background, there is no first hand experience of the situation by players, we don't know how terrible it was, nor do we actually bother to care since Noctis and his relationship with his dad are hazy. Noctis's cries therefore made little sense to player, coming across as whiny than anything.
It's almost like in FFXIII where Hope's mum got killed and the game expects us to feel for Hope and wants revenge on Snow for him. No game, you don't bother to develop Hope's relationship with his mum, why should I feel so bad for a complete stranger's demise?
From his impression, the game seems to imply that player have actually watched Kingsglaive at least, so players could understand the gravitas of the invasion, the betrayal of Niflheim over the treaty, and the sacrifice that king Regis made for his son, so Noctis's outcry and emotional burst would have a deeper impact on player and allow us to sympathise with him. Now instead, we get short glimpse of Regis sending Noctis away, telling him to leave with his entourage, some quick conversations and then having Noctis finds out the invasion away in the background, there is no first hand experience of the situation by players, we don't know how terrible it was, nor do we actually bother to care since Noctis and his relationship with his dad are hazy. Noctis's cries therefore made little sense to player, coming across as whiny than anything.
It's almost like in FFXIII where Hope's mum got killed and the game expects us to feel for Hope and wants revenge on Snow for him. No game, you don't bother to develop Hope's relationship with his mum, why should I feel so bad for a complete stranger's demise?
Let's wait for the final and full game to come out.
Sure, it's just fun to speculate.
Kingsglaive is a bit more complicated because it's the remains of Versus made into a movie, but Brotherhood, yeah, absolutely. I never expected to get this amount of backstory at all, it was never hinted at, so it's definitely just an extra. Awesome that we have it, but it's not something that needed to be in the game for people who won't watch it.
Neither Vaan nor Penelo are angsty though.
For what it's worth, I also found this to be a big problem in the Witcher 3 and loved the game anyway.
Cindi Mayweather
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I have to say that the intro to this game gives real mystique. The promise of them growing older really makes you feel like you're in for a ride and really makes me anticipate how they get to that point. I think making that the opening was a really good move. Might be one of my favorite FF intros, actually. I don't think they should have shown it off, though. Should have kept it for the game release. It feels like they're showing too much of this game to convince people to buy it, and spoiling the intro like that kind of ruins the surprise. In general, I think spoiling the intro to an FF game as sacrilege though because my brain is still in that "FF must be savored, it is the greatest game experience you can create" from back in the day, so I'm very weird with FF spoilers and today's game culture of showing everything pre-release.
That doesn't change how it was my fault for watching it though, I guess.
That doesn't change how it was my fault for watching it though, I guess.
Some more Gamescom off-screen gameplay:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UT5w2y8rCpk
Seems like the image gets sharper when you don't move or when a message box shows up, but might be the camera not keeping track too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UT5w2y8rCpk
Seems like the image gets sharper when you don't move or when a message box shows up, but might be the camera not keeping track too.
Vaan was just a complete waste of a character shoe horned in for demographic purposes.
SE seems to have some sort of unhealthy obsession with late teen, poorly developed characters. Many of which are angsty and/or whiny but almost always annoying.
Mediking
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Yeah, it's Prompto's fault lol.
"Why are there nude pics of people on your phone, Prompto?!"
Prompto suddenly drops the phone.
James Scott
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How FFXV looked at the reveal, the duscae build, and the final release
jk, I like the picture
I recal that being the case in the other demos. At least the platinum demo
Dr. Benton Quest
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The Emperor
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Yeah, it's Prompto's fault lol.
lol he's so cute.
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Graphics worry me the most of the OP's comments.
One of those screens is giving me Lightning Returns wildlands PTSD. Not because graphics are the same but it has a similar rushed unoptimized unpolished feel to it :/
Damn it if they do confirm a Neo patch I'll be buying one just for this game.
Everything else actually sounds amazing. I want the car to be on rails, prefer that to driving it anywhere...my OCD would get out of hand.
Cindi Mayweather
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I need more Prompto. The Brotherhood episode made me fall in love with him, and I love him in every video I've seen. As a Yuffie/Rikku/Selphie lover, he's up my alley.
DarkConfidant
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Once again, when someone actually plays the game, rather than watch a trailer/look at screens/get bored and speculate, they tend to have a good time.
Hopefully the delay fixes some of the performance flaws.
Thanks for the write-up!
Hopefully the delay fixes some of the performance flaws.
Thanks for the write-up!
I never noticed until now that he had the weird arm thing in the E3 2013 trailer too.
I wonder if they dropped the hood outfit altogether? Haven't seen any footage or screenshots of him wearing it since that trailer.
NoctisVsStar
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I'm so dead I'm Stella dead
Tabata/Square Enix said that they cut no narrative from the game to put it in the movie (or the anime). The movie tells it's very own complete story. And so does the game. What needs to be explained in the game will be explained.
Anything else would be extremely dumb, because they very well know only a fraction of the players of the game will also watch the movie (or anime) and the game will be held accountable if it's story is incomprehensible. And it is all about the game. The movie and the anime are simply promo.
DPtheGod
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Yeah I knew it was a kingsglaive thing, I just never noticed it was there all the way back in 2013
PSY・S;214808658 said:
*Because we wanted to sell you this movie.*
No lies detected. What's the problem?
Psycho_Mantis
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PSY・S;214808658 said:
Stella > Luna confirmed
It seems like Luna's role is not nearly as significant but we shall see.
WickedLaharl
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Yeah, it's Prompto's fault lol.
where are the other three cellphones?
The Emperor
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Prompto ate them. He thought they were steak.
Napalm_Frank
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I hope we get another FF character popularity poll in Japan so I can see where Prompto ranks.