SinCityAssassin
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A lot of game jolt fan games are blatant rips so I can stomach it.
Nintendo is moving more and more towards the Disney approach (or more correctly, moving back to it after abandoning it in the early 90's).
Nintendo wants their name and mascots on everything. Gone are the days where Nintendo makes money off of games, they are back to making money off their IP (yes, there games are also IP, but the distinction is important).
So now that Nintendo is selling the IP, anything that uses their IP illegitimately is now a threat to their business. It threatens to cheapen those IP.
Why spend money to license Nintendo characters if Nintendo is just going to let anyone use them for free without asking? That's why they are doing this.
I think it's also important to note that the ceiling a what a fan can do and the bottom of what Nintendo can do (in some ways) has come closer over the years.
Super Mario Bros. X, was a great level maker that could do things that SMM couldn't.
AMR2, (since it's basically an HD remaster thing) is a more definitive 30th Anniversary Metroid game than Federation Force could hope to be.
Letting things like this slide would eventually just continue to get worse for Nintendo... although it's debatable how big the effect is.
Mother 4 already said that if they are hit with a strike, they'll rebrand and remove or edit the references to the previous games.
We will get it, one way or another.
uhh super mario bros x was never taken down by nintendo, edit: not sure now
Then, they should just do that anyway.
I can't support people stealing assets to make games *shrug*
going by all the decisions ninty has been making as of late, i'd guess iwata did a whole lot more than what he was given credit forCrazy. I wonder what spurred this change in Nintendo?
So Nintendo is going on a fan-game hunt lately? What a shocker.....
I think at this point, its painfully clear that its best to not bother even making Nintendo fan games, as they just don't like the fan community working on Nintendo content.
I can understand AM2R being shut down by Nintendo (its a remake of a game they are selling & they had another Metroid game releasing in that same month) but the recent efforts to curb other fan game productions is just baffling to me.
Going to research into this before providing a stronger opinion on this matter but Nintendo seems to have a clear message to the gaming community; ONLY Nintendo makes games using Nintendo IP, not the fans or other people.
That is fine. Just that people will either start ignoring Nintendo games or rather make Nintendo-inspired games with no ties to any IP.
It's one of those cases where something ridiculous is being normalized because it keeps happening.lol
What about the starfleet badge in your avatar? Did you make that? Did you make the "Only on Nintendo" image that overlays it?
Fangames are harmless. This is like if J.K. Rowling sent copyright takedown notices to 45% of Fanfiction.net over Harry Potter.
There are too many Nintendo cheerleaders in this thread who think fangames are tantamount to piracy and that's a ridiculous stance to take.
Man, it's a good thing the Project M dev team bailed while they could, especially with Nintendo locking down professional Smash tournaments.
They're probably doing it for legal reasons. If you don't take affirmative steps to protect your trademarks, for example, Im pretty sure you can lose them.
It's one of those cases where something ridiculous is being normalized because it keeps happening.
They're probably doing it for legal reasons. If you don't take affirmative steps to protect your trademarks, for example, Im pretty sure you can lose them.
Then, they should just do that anyway.
Is Sega in danger of losing the Sonic franchise?
Companies can protect IPs without acting outright hostile towards fan creators.
This sentence, this exact sentence right here, is why these takedowns make me so sad. That consumers look at fangames and say "man I wish they had been original" because of companies like Nintendo that overstep what can ever be considered reasonable protection of copyright. That I as a game developer have to say "I do not want to waste my time on a fangame that could be taken off the internet at any moment."That talent shouldn't be wasted on a free fan game.
Had slightly hoped they might soften their stance after the AM2R situation, I see they're going all in.
Probably a result of Nintendo deciding to put more emphasis on licensing their properties, cracking down harder on unofficial games and merchandise.
They sure weren't in danger of losing their Streets of Rage IP when they took down that fangame years ago, but they did anyway. Which is fine, because they're in their rights.
I really dislike how Sega suddenly became the good role model, Valve is a good model for employing modders, Sega is really just being opportunistic. Sonic Mania started after that guy was already hired by them after porting Sonic CD and other games.
Mania has nothing to do with this. The Sonic fangame community has been robust and out in the open for well over a decade, if not longer. The largest fansite out there called Sonic Retro, whom Sega has a history of directly communicating to (pretty sure the guys who run the Sonic Twitter right now is from there), is basically the hub for this kind of fan activity.
Don't think I can just waltz in and claim the Sonic The Hedgehog trademark due to this.
Mania has nothing to do with this. The Sonic fangame community has been robust and out in the open for well over a decade, if not longer. The largest fansite out there called Sonic Retro, whom Sega has a history of directly communicating to (pretty sure the guys who run the Sonic Twitter right now is from there), is basically the hub for this kind of fan activity.
Don't think I can just waltz in and claim the Sonic The Hedgehog trademark due to this.
*blinks
Really?
How many times do we have to go over this?
GAF is full of video game Robin Hoods or something.
I would imagine if most people here had a business and people were going around stealing their shit and putting it out as their own, they wouldn't be so thrilled with it
That may be and I'm not saying they're not doing a wonderful job. They really are and these kinds of actions should be celebrated more, but all I'm saying is that I don't think it's 100% goodwill either, they also have a track record of being shitty with these stuff. Also Sonic brand is one that really needs this kind of support given their recent activities
Yet countless businesses dont partake on this kind of douchy ass behaviour. In fact, they know its good for business, not the opposite.GAF is full of video game Robin Hoods or something.
I would imagine if most people here had a business and people were going around stealing their shit and putting it out as their own, they wouldn't be so thrilled with it
GAF is full of video game Robin Hoods or something.
I would imagine if most people here had a business and people were going around stealing their shit and putting it out as their own, they wouldn't be so thrilled with it
These companies aren't monoliths - the Streets of Rage nonsense happened under different management and a current employee has tweeted that that sort of thing doesn't happen anymore.
I'm aware of that, like I'm aware that these fan games have been up forever until they were taken down right now. Again, not saying that's a good thing, just not buying the whole "Sega is a good model" case, they're both big bussiness, they will do what they have to do
Nintendo is moving more and more towards the Disney approach (or more correctly, moving back to it after abandoning it in the early 90's).
Nintendo wants their name and mascots on everything. Gone are the days where Nintendo makes money off of games, they are back to making money off their IP (yes, there games are also IP, but the distinction is important).
So now that Nintendo is selling the IP, anything that uses their IP illegitimately is now a threat to their business. It threatens to cheapen those IP.
Why spend money to license Nintendo characters if Nintendo is just going to let anyone use them for free without asking? That's why they are doing this.
As he is a businessman first and foremost, I would say yes. Iwata was a good guy but his kindness was a weakness in some regards. Kimi don't take shit from no one!
They sure weren't in danger of losing their Streets of Rage IP when they took down that fangame years ago, but they did anyway. Which is fine, because they're in their rights.
I really dislike how Sega suddenly became the good role model, Valve is a good model for employing modders, Sega is really just being opportunistic. Sonic Mania started after that guy was already hired by them after porting Sonic CD and other games.
GAF is full of video game Robin Hoods or something.
I would imagine if most people here had a business and people were going around stealing their shit and putting it out as their own, they wouldn't be so thrilled with it