You could. I recall somebody previously made a thread complaining about the mere possibility of a console offering graphical and performance options.
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You could. I recall somebody previously made a thread complaining about the mere possibility of a console offering graphical and performance options.
amstradcpc
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Wow.Now imagine ND trying to take U4 to 60 fps.Seriously,Sony fucked it up going with those shitty Jaguars again.
I question whether it will be native 4k.
BlackClouds
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shoudln't be hard to default to a choice on the PS4 Pro depending on the res of your tv, 4k for 4k, and the 1080p@30 all bells and whistles mode if you have 1080p. If you're in the minority that wants 60fps boom or bust (on a console even), then you can change to that choice. Happy Happy for all involved.
Come on, this isn't rocket science. If you have a 4K TV, chose 4K mode. If you want prettiest graphics, choose 30FPS mode. If you want a higher frame rate, chose 60FPS capped mode. It's not that hard, and I bet it will suggest a mode when you first turn on the game.
The 480 has 5.5 tflops. Even a 470 has 4.9 tflops.
In that graph, the 380X is the closest to the PS4P.
pixellated_man
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What's ugh about it though?
Is it the fact that pc's provide people these options and you don't think console owners should have the same, or is it because you dislike everything pc related?
pixellated_man
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As long as the game hold onto 60fps for most of the time and the dips are infrequent and mostly in the 50-60fps area, I really don't mind. Last of Us Remastered had very similar performance and I along with the vast majority here on GAF got along fine with that game - if the OT for the game is worth anything.
Really liking the fact most future games should have great IQ on the Pro on a normal 1080p TV, and of course even the faux 4K, or should that be "Faux K", modes will look great on a respective 4K TV. Seriously the end of shimmering is nigh. I don't see the point in complex graphics that's supposed to look great, when the edges of everything on screen is a shimmering jaggy mess. The Pro finally gives console players some damn good image quality for once.
I hope options like these are widespread, nothing wrong with options! It's still far more controlled than in a random PC setup and devs taking care with it should be able to find the best balance for each mode to deliver in its own way.
Now, Rocket League locked 60 with better IQ... where you at? (Bloodborne too of course but I fear that's a lost cause if they still haven't fixed the frame pacing issues that other games have had but which were fixed within a patch or two after launch...).
I hope options like these are widespread, nothing wrong with options! It's still far more controlled than in a random PC setup and devs taking care with it should be able to find the best balance for each mode to deliver in its own way.
Now, Rocket League locked 60 with better IQ... where you at? (Bloodborne too of course but I fear that's a lost cause if they still haven't fixed the frame pacing issues that other games have had but which were fixed within a patch or two after launch...).
So basically , if you chose to play ROTR on a standard PS4 you're stuck with roughly what the xbox one version could do - that is approximately medium detail PC equivalent settings at 1080p with a 30 fps target that is achieved pretty consistently.
Then, move up to a pro and you can have similar detail settings but the game run at that interpolated 2160p that looks almost as good in stills but perhaps loses a bit when in motion.
Still stuck on a 1080p set ? well now it's locked to 30 fps with equivalent settings to PC Ultra. Want more frames ? settings lowered to High , framerate left unlocked. Having played quite a bit of the PC version there are 2 areas in particular that are VERY hard and demanding to get running at a locked 60 fps , so most of the game will run at 60 or close but those sections ? yeah... expect 40's.
I mean this pretty much all checks out. The Jaguar is just a terrible CPU and no amount of overclocking it will fix that. Hopefully in 3 years when we get a PS5 it uses something MUCH faster.
Then, move up to a pro and you can have similar detail settings but the game run at that interpolated 2160p that looks almost as good in stills but perhaps loses a bit when in motion.
Still stuck on a 1080p set ? well now it's locked to 30 fps with equivalent settings to PC Ultra. Want more frames ? settings lowered to High , framerate left unlocked. Having played quite a bit of the PC version there are 2 areas in particular that are VERY hard and demanding to get running at a locked 60 fps , so most of the game will run at 60 or close but those sections ? yeah... expect 40's.
I mean this pretty much all checks out. The Jaguar is just a terrible CPU and no amount of overclocking it will fix that. Hopefully in 3 years when we get a PS5 it uses something MUCH faster.
OP - I have no idea what you are doing.
First you erroneously state there is a locked 60fps mode. Now you have changed it to ">45fps targeting 60fps" which again, was never said.
All they have said is >45fps. Chances are there will be scenarios where the game goes above 60fps (which won't make a difference on a 60hz display) - such is the nature of an unlocked framerate.
First you erroneously state there is a locked 60fps mode. Now you have changed it to ">45fps targeting 60fps" which again, was never said.
All they have said is >45fps. Chances are there will be scenarios where the game goes above 60fps (which won't make a difference on a 60hz display) - such is the nature of an unlocked framerate.
Yup. Consoles should have had these options forever.
the only reason this is possible with NEO is because of its iterative nature. Consoles would never have had these options before regardless because of the fixed hardware aspect
dr_rus
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It's not the Jaguars which is the problem. The GPU just isn't powerful enough.
Unknown Soldier
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Both are a problem. The Jaguars are slower than equivalent-clocked ARM cores, which is highly absurd in a home console. The GPU however was already barely adequate for 1080p and now they are going to tell it to render 4 times more pixels which is what 4K is with only twice the overall GPU power. Yeah, no. That's not happening.
potatohead
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Older consoles could've had it, they just virtually never do. Can always have multiple settings on consoles e.g. like TLOU had 2 modes for different FPS, and one has higher resolution shadows for example on PS4.
Even going back to PS1 era there were games like G-Police where you could modify draw distance to have a better or worse framerate I think.
It's very uncommon, but nothing prevents it really from happening even on single iteration generations. Most people just wouldn't even care either anyway.
AstroNut325
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I really really hope devs are tracking which modes are used and how much.
Official 4K PS4 Pro trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOg9eiQsEBM
If you feel the trailer deserves its own thread...I can do it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOg9eiQsEBM
If you feel the trailer deserves its own thread...I can do it
ArkhamFantasy
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They needed to spend less time on 4k/HDR and more time on 1080 benefits, absolutely. No question about that.
Do you remember that TLOU was a remaster of a game on PS3? The overhead of processing power on PS4 gave them the ability to do that.
On PS3, it would not have been possible because they were squeezing all the power out of the unit at 30fps.
mckmas8808
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Official 4K PS4 Pro trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOg9eiQsEBM
If you feel the trailer deserves its own thread...I can do it
So they will have a 1080p 60 fps version.
Yeah seems like the same frame rate situation of the TR Definitive Edition on PS4.
Personally I'll take the 4K and HDR option
TrynUrLuck
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how much extra work is this for developers? I'm kinda worried a lot of games won't bother except for the 4k bump.
pixelation
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Co-signed.
Gamersyde has a couple brief 4k videos of it up.
The 4k mode looks excellent. I take back my earlier worries about switching modes. I'll almost definitely be sticking with that.
http://www.gamersyde.com/news_psm_tomb_raider_shines_in_4k-18345_en.html
The 4k mode looks excellent. I take back my earlier worries about switching modes. I'll almost definitely be sticking with that.
http://www.gamersyde.com/news_psm_tomb_raider_shines_in_4k-18345_en.html
Revolutionary
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I'm not planning on upgrading to a 4KTV anytime in the next 10 years so reading about these high framerate/high fidelity modes for 1080 TV's is very encouraging. I just might pick up a Pro after all.
CPU only got a small boost.
Official 4K PS4 Pro trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOg9eiQsEBM
If you feel the trailer deserves its own thread...I can do it
Sounds great. I'm not planning on getting a 4K TV any time soon so upgraded specs at 1080p is all I need.
DangerMouse
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Barely adequate for 1080p? Like 95% of PS4 games run at 1080p.
I think both Sony and MS wanted to get on x86.
omnislayer
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Well this is good since I probably won't have a 4k TV for a while and I'm probably getting a PS4 Pro at launch.
Neuromancer
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This is sounding better and better for the 1080peasants (including me.) My interest in the Playstation 4 Pro, not unlike the titular heroine, is Rising.
Sword Of Doom
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Yeah I hope so. A 60fps option for all
Games would be great
Yes at 60fps but at 30fps games on the ps4 look fine at 1080p.
GhostOfSparta305
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No thx. Locked resolution/unlocked 60 is the best tradeoff.
Games are only noticeably choppy once they go under 24 fps; they don't go anywhere near that low when they target 60.
matrix-cat
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What do I want with a choppy unlocked 45FPS? Surely this thing has the power to lock the game at 60 with whatever settings the normal PS4 version will use. That's pretty much all I wanted from the Neo in the first place; something that would play PS4 exclusives at 60.
Official 4K PS4 Pro trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOg9eiQsEBM
If you feel the trailer deserves its own thread...I can do it
That feel when the industry abused bullshots, target renders and pumped up PC versions to sell their games, and now will struggle to show what's so cool about dolled up PRO versions.
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