killatopak
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Rise of the Tomb Raider will have 3 modes on PS4Pro
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The Nioh demo on the PS4 lets you also chose between 1080p, 30fps and 720p, 60fps.
And it can look pretty bad as a result. Hopefully it turns out better when it's finally released, but that's just a few months away if they're sticking to the 2016 release date.
Megawarrior
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I've been wanting this since ps3 era. Wow.
Alpha Phoenix
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This is really how it should be done.
TerryLee81
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I'm still confused. In this case, is 4k mode native 4k?
4k*.
i'm legitimately surprised
ResidentDante
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I really doubt it, running ROTTR on high end PC's at 4K is even taxing.
as i've told you before a million times, they calculated this specifically because of their game design. lowered the rendering load requirements for the graphical assets, yet had only a few enemies on screen at a time for CPU leverage, which allowed for them to optimize for both modes to prioritize maximum GPU or CPU rendering resources.
That is not the case for a billion other developers who are going to be pushing the hardware in completely different ways, where they cant just take some GPU rendering off and get significant amount of frames back.
AbandonedTrolley
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Gonna unlock those flops when Scorpio launches right?
City of Dis
Member
God no
I have posted several times in the past that I hoped Neo, now PS4Pro, would provide decent benefits for 1080p TV owners, because I have no intentions of replacing my TV with a 4K TV for several years.
So this makes me very happy and I hope it becomes standard on PS4Pro that devs tune their games for both 1080p and 4K TVs.
When it comes to the question of choosing between a 1080p30 mode with maxed graphics and a 1080p45-60 with lesser graphics I will prefer that devs focus on the maxed graphics mode over the variable framerate mode.
So this makes me very happy and I hope it becomes standard on PS4Pro that devs tune their games for both 1080p and 4K TVs.
When it comes to the question of choosing between a 1080p30 mode with maxed graphics and a 1080p45-60 with lesser graphics I will prefer that devs focus on the maxed graphics mode over the variable framerate mode.
Unknown Soldier
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Why only have 3 modes? Just go full-on PC gaming and have a bunch of sliders like the PC version!
RealityCheque
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So now it really is a (moderately powered) PC.
Nope. It's upscaled. Also, your confusion isn't uncommon. That press conference really did a bang-up job of asking ten times more questions than it answered.
Nope. It's upscaled. Also, your confusion isn't uncommon. That press conference really did a bang-up job of asking ten times more questions than it answered.
eewwww options
PLASTICA-MAN
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So it means we can run PureHair to the max? I hope so.
Dredd97
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it's weird, that all the shit MS got (quite rightly) for moneyhatting that years exclusivity of this game, it's actually worked out for sony as in the long run this alone is going to convince peeps the PS4pro is a good investment (and the Tomb Raider game is a title to show the system off)...
Primethius
Banned
Yea, it's pretty funny.
And hell, I was on the same train, trying to think of ways SE could sell the game a year later. But I have to admit, 3 different options targeting the Pro crowd is pretty damn smart.
dr_rus
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The CPU is hardly even used for rendering these days so the Jaguars should be enough for 1080p/60 - in fact, we know that they are as we have many PS4 games running at 60 fps - the problem is the GPU as these games tend to lower the resolution to 900p or even 720p to achieve this framerate. The resolution being lowered to achieve the target framerate is a clear sign of a GPU bottleneck.
TechnicPuppet
Nothing! I said nothing!
I haven't read through the whole thread so I am assuming its true. If so its a great idea. Just give people the choice, it should be standard for PS4 Pro and Scorpio.
NeoRaider
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Doesn't look like a native 4K to me:
I am also not sure about the settings it looks like Medium to me.
Unless you were playing in 4K yourself (or a resolution close to it) or were using SSAA or sth you almost definitely had more aliasing on those trees. I spotted very little of that in this video and it was a constant annoyance in the game at 1080p.
I feel like a special snowflake here, but I don't like this. I hope they keep it to PS Pro only, so I don't have to deal with it. The constant hemming and hawing over which option will impact which part of the experience annoyed the crap out of me during my PC days. I just want to have one designer vision and play and appraise that. That's part of what attracts me to console gaming over PC gaming.
its not native 4k its upscaled
It's funny that many of the smarty-pants around here were so sure that this is exactly the type of thing developers would be uninterested/unable to do... And here's a dev doing it for launch.
I hope devs take a similar approach with the Scorpio when it drops. for either system, I'd hate to see all that power wasted on 4K, when so many users won't be able to fully appreciate it.
I hope devs take a similar approach with the Scorpio when it drops. for either system, I'd hate to see all that power wasted on 4K, when so many users won't be able to fully appreciate it.
Opus Angelorum
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To be fair I think most people who said that assumed developers wouldn't offer these options, not that they couldn't.
And this is not "bait" because...?
At launch, Sony has an incentive to encourage devs to launch games with Pro-utilizing modes...
How many games will feature this, and how long will devs bother?
The implication that devs "couldn't" wasn't to say that it was technically impossible, but that development costs would Prevent it from happening.
The determining factors going forward, will be a mix of market response, and dev tools, of course.
It seems that Sony is incentivizing a Neo mode. But including multiple options seems to be purely out of CDs desire.
Bluekaveli
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This is cool.
Kssio_Aug
Member
Besides I do agree thats a good thing to have (options), it feels to me that's one more step (a big one) leading to the each day more nebulous route that distinguishes consoles and PC nowadays.
I mean, day after day it seems consoles are trying to add what PC offers since long ago, but also sacrificing what made them appealing one day other than exclusives, while PC has been successfully adding features that once were strong console points (such as easy controller setup).
I mean, day after day it seems consoles are trying to add what PC offers since long ago, but also sacrificing what made them appealing one day other than exclusives, while PC has been successfully adding features that once were strong console points (such as easy controller setup).
Wrong. Consoles could have always (3D I'm talking) offered better framerate for less graphical fidelity and vice-versa. Just as PC's always have.
ubersticky
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Wait how does the game run on PS4 at the moment?
With the PS4 Pro, why on earth can't it hit 1080p with 60fps? What...?
With the PS4 Pro, why on earth can't it hit 1080p with 60fps? What...?
If you want to double the framerate you need twice cpu power, cpu on ps4 isn't even 50% more powerful.
ubersticky
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I guess I completely missed the point of the PS4 Pro then.... Thought it could actually do a solid 1080/60fps performance. It's mainly to get games to a 4K resolution basically?
4k (if the game allows it) or 1080p with some graphic refinements (better textures, folliage, etc).
For many or most games it will be mainly about prettier/cleaner frames rather than more frames, yes. Some games should see smoother performance. Some games may see framerate bumps up to the next watermark (be it 60fps or perhaps in VR, 90fps or 120fps depending on the original base framerate).
But it's very game dependent. It's misleading to say you need double the CPU power to do this in every case. A doubling of CPU clock would make 30hz-60hz improvements more common, but such improvements aren't impossible without that depending on the game.
TR has a middle-road option that will target 1080p/60, but doesn't guarantee a min 60.