Ninja Scooter
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Yes, it is just greedy Sony I am sure.
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Sony doesn't allow Fallout 4/Skyrim mods on PS4
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Yes, it is just greedy Sony I am sure.
AcademicSaucer
Member
LyleLanley
Banned
Personally, I'm starting to think this is a good thing. If Sony doesn't want mods on their console then perhaps mods just aren't good for consumers and we'd be better served by paid DLC.
LOL do you really think that any of this has any material impact?
PS4 Pro tepid reception?
It's number one/two on amazon since it was announced.
It's just that some people have been waiting for a loong looong time to get something to talk about negatively, so whatever they get is used like ammo for stupid console wars.
About the mods I hope they can work out a solution, but if these mods don't work well as they are (there's no control on performance, system stability, audio files not working, possible glitches), why should they pass quality control?
Things like max amount of space allowed instead are stupid and can be easily modified.
Well ultimately, you don't announce a feature if you haven't got it working, or announce it as target and tell before sale of your product wether that made it in or not. If Sony did assure they could work around those limitations and then withdrew, that's an enormous shitty thing to do (is there any source for this being the case?) . But it's still on Bethesda to deliver the product they promised, ergo, they shouldn't have announced the feature or sold Fallout with a guarantee it is coming.
To reflect your edit
Functional but gimped.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
You're tripping. Look at how many people still play on PC.
dealer-
Member
Absolutely this, this decision is in our best interests.
Rez Infinite didn't get delayed
This sucks for those looking forward to it. I have been very critical of Bethesda's over reliance on community made mods to support their games but Sony should have been working with them to ensure feature parity with the competition, especially since it was previously announced.
Do people not read the OP or even Bethesda's statement? Sony isn't stopping mod support. They just have restrictions that Bethesda doesn't agree with. So Bethesda is choosing not to have mod support for their games.
This line from Bethesda's statement,
shows that Bethesda could put mods on their games, but they are choosing not to do so.
No other games that have announced mods, Unreal Tournament and Farming Simulator are known to have support, have announced they aren't going to have mods yet.
Leona Lewis
Banned
LyleLanley
Banned
Microsoft looks like a bunch of idiots for allowing that trash on their consoles.
wesleyshark
Banned
Psychoward
Banned
He's being sarcastic.
Darren_z33
Member
It was obviously a joke. He literally just said Paid DLC was the way forward
wesleyshark
Banned
Sorcerer Supreme
Member
no lie detected. we dont even have ps1 support and sony made us rebuy ps2 classics fuck sony
LyleLanley
Banned
I was not joking.
wesleyshark
Banned
....... Ok
between the iPhone 7 threads and this thread you're quickly becoming one of my favorite postersThat's exactly what I'd say if I was joking.
Mmmm Kool-Aid...so refreshing.
Edit: or not.
elcuervo75
Banned
Why I've always preferred the Xbox, made by a SOFTWARE company.
Wow i have no words
Fuck off, sony
Leadership sony best sony right
that almost got me
i'm pretty sure that's sarcasm
That's cute
Leadership sony best sony right
that almost got me
i'm pretty sure that's sarcasm
That's cute
Indeed something didn't work with communication here.
If Bethesda wanted a free pass with quality control to use mods as a selling point for their games even if they work like shit, make the system crash, audio doesn't work and whatever....they should have talked about their intentions clearly before advertising them as a feature.
Sony on the other side must be flexible on things like max space allowed and other aspects unrelated to the quality of the games.
Darren_z33
Member
People not being able to tell joke posts lol.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
What would be the risk of making those proprietary tools public? If any?
Something must be there that could potentially do more harm than good it seems.
I hope so, you just can't tell in this place sometimes
Air Zombie Meat
Member
It's ok guys. They wouldn't have been good value anyway. Sonys got your back.
Ban Puncher
Member
Kabuki Quantum Lover
Member
You'd think Bethesda would announce something they were confident they could deliver. Not saying Sony is in the clear, but Bethesda needs to get kicked in the ass, too.
Not a good look for a developer/publisher.
Also, smarten up Sony.
Not a good look for a developer/publisher.
Also, smarten up Sony.
I'm sorry, but how on earth is a platform holder not providing the correct functionality to provide for a platform function at anyone's fault other than the platform holder?
For Bethesda to of even advertised this it will of been agreed by Sony prior to allow for support. For them to agree, they will of needed to of worked with Sony to provide the correct functionality to allow it and they simply haven't. The same thing will of happened with MS and it did, back in May.
The twist is surreal.
Not necessarily true; Sony would (at least given my experience of any platform publishing agreements, TRCs etc.) always have the option to review the product would it not meet a certain "feature parity" (which may, or may not be well defined) and thus their exit clause could simply be that the mod feature would need to meet the same standards as XBO, which they could obviously make sure could not happen. Platform holder/publisher relations are unfortunately much, much more complicated that people think they are and it's very much a tough relationship rather than always a set terms of agreement.
It's completely ridiculous to even assume that they would not have agreements and long legal talks before announcing said feature. Given the volatility of the industry and the sheer clusterfuck that modding on consoles would be; there's no way it would have been announced with some very, very strong confidence. Nor would they have spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to actually make said feature in the first place (which they now have).
SolarMystic
Member
Should developers not announce games until it's done and on store shelves?
Sony gave them the okay, then didn't commit when Bethesda needed some help.
bobbie424242
Banned
"4 the players but only when we say so"
mrhyderager
Member
I thought the same. The only thing I can think of is forcing Bethesda to go through and manually modify each Mod, converting it into the format that Sony is willing to support. This would require Bethesda to take ownership of whether or not the mod works as it should, which takes away from mods being community driven. Seems like way too much work to expect to occur for free.
Transistor
Banned
But I can't play Bloodborne or Sunset Overdrive on my PC
From the way people said Sony said to Bethesda that everything would be cool
then after the announcement they backed off and didn't help like they said they would
so, yeah, doesn't seem like it's bethesda's fault
An insider said that Sunset is coming
Berserker976
Member
So, what's the best way to let Sony know that this is unacceptable?
Considering how limited the hardware is... Doesn't bother me since it also runs poorly on ps4 and xbone.
Soooo I wasn't expecting much and if mods were added I can bet they would crash the system due to modders not having proper development tools for the consoles such as dev kits and the original development software.
But hey, that's just my opinion
Soooo I wasn't expecting much and if mods were added I can bet they would crash the system due to modders not having proper development tools for the consoles such as dev kits and the original development software.
But hey, that's just my opinion
LyleLanley
Banned
I'll pay for any patch, I don't even care what it does.
Patapwn
Member
Thanks but can someone try to explain why Sony would create these roadblocks in the first place?
1. Why 900 mb? I understand having some limitation, mods can't be 100 gb obviously but this seems notably low for no real reason. Is there some cost with going higher?
2. The proprietary stuff. What could the big deal be in a worst case scenario? Is this an avenue to hack the console or could there be some other explanation?