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Clinton has pneumonia

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Morts

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Hopefully she gets some press about how she was determined to go to the memorial despite being sick in addition to all the "Clinton's health: a real issue" BS floating around now.
 

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MeisaMcCaffrey
It's wrong to do armchair diagnosis because the symptoms for many illness/disorders are the same. Unless you've seen the patient in person and are a medical professional, please stop throwing around things like Parkinson's. I hope she recovers fast.
 
You can tell the people saying she has parkinsons never knew someone with it.

My grandfather, even with his condition very controlled with great medicine, still has unsteady hands. Even when he was put under for surgery, they had issues because he would spasm sometimes. He's had it for a few years now.

Also he used to fall, A LOT. His balance was completely broken. He fell and broke his hip and now he uses a wheelchair to get around.

You can't just hide it! It's not just a matter of smoke and mirrors. Watching Hillary's every move for years now, eventually someone would notice her hands shaking uncontrollably, she'd be falling more, her memory and focus would be "off."
 
Jesus, and i thougt Jeff Rigby's "OG PS4 will be 4k" thread was a bunch of grasping and overanalyzing ... :)
Turns out I was correct on many of the points I was making like the OG PS4 has a HDMI 2.0a port which was confirmed at the PS meeting as ALL PS4s support HDR which requires HDMI 2.0a negotiation. Additionally the 2013 and 2015 PS4s are called UHD capable in the efficientgaming.eu website by everyone including Sony. UHD capable is everything but the drive and Player software. I may be wrong in that Sony decided to not support UHD blu-ray on any console not that the hardware in 2013 couldn't support it.
 
Turns out I was correct on many of the points I was making like the OG PS4 has a HDMI 2.0a port which was confirmed at the PS meeting as ALL PS4s support HDR which requires HDMI 2.0a negotiation. Additionally the 2013 and 2015 PS4s are called UHD capable in the efficientgaming.eu website by everyone including Sony. UHD capable is everything but the drive and Player software. I may be wrong in that Sony decided to not support UHD blu-ray on any console not that the hardware in 2013 couldn't support it.
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Turns out I was correct on many of the points I was making like the OG PS4 has a HDMI 2.0a port which was confirmed at the PS meeting as ALL PS4s support HDR which requires HDMI 2.0a negotiation. Additionally the 2013 and 2015 PS4s are called UHD capable in the efficientgaming.eu website by everyone including Sony. UHD capable is everything but the drive and Player software. I may be wrong in that Sony decided to not support UHD blu-ray on any console not that the hardware in 2013 couldn't support it.

That's all wonderful - so stick to that instead of trying to play doctor.
 

bob_arctor

Tough_Smooth
Primary cause of death for people who have Parkinson's is Pneumonia. Throat muscles can't coordinate when swallowing and saliva goes down the wrong way. This causes coughing fits.

Rather long video with a MD speculating HRC has Parkinson's for between 5-10 years. Hopefully for 10 years as that means a slower progression. Watch and make up your own mind.

10 Points Proving Hillary's Parkinson's Disease:

Incidents tied to Symptoms of Parkinson's


Holy Shit. Has a doctor diagnosed you yet? Can't believe this garbage is in my GAF. Sigh.
 

AlphaDump

Gold Member
Turns out I was correct on many of the points I was making like the OG PS4 has a HDMI 2.0a port which was confirmed at the PS meeting as ALL PS4s support HDR which requires HDMI 2.0a negotiation. Additionally the 2013 and 2015 PS4s are called UHD capable in the efficientgaming.eu website by everyone including Sony. UHD capable is everything but the drive and Player software. I may be wrong in that Sony decided to not support UHD blu-ray on any console not that the hardware in 2013 couldn't support it.

I figured this would be the hill jeff_rigby would die on, but never would I have thought it'd be in a Clinton Off-Topic thread. This is all kinds of crazy.
 

BTA

Member
I saw that gross gif early in this thread this morning and can't force it out of my head now, 12 hours later. Thanks guys.

EDIT: Well, coming back in here got me to see that Rigby post, so...

Nah, still very much not worth it.
 

komplanen

Member
It's kinda like the whole PS4 plays UHD thing: you either are (sick and drying) or you aren't - what some website somewhere says has no impact on it.
 

Beefy

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Primary cause of death for people who have Parkinson's is Pneumonia. Throat muscles can't coordinate when swallowing and saliva goes down the wrong way. This causes coughing fits.

Rather long video with a MD speculating HRC has Parkinson's for between 5-10 years. Hopefully for 10 years as that means a slower progression. Watch and make up your own mind.

10 Points Proving Hillary's Parkinson's Disease:

Incidents tied to Symptoms of Parkinson's

Since when did Clinton have Parkinsons?

Edit: didn't see you got banned.

She's called off her two day campaign in California so that would suggest she at least needs to put her feet up for a week or so.

Yeah I reckon it is a acute case. Still needs her rest and to take it easy though.
 
One year ago this week I had pneumonia. I thought it was bronchitis. Pneumonia actually saved my life. If I hadn't gone back to the Drs for more medication they wouldn't have uncovered my high blood pressure/hypertension. I was admitted to the hospital for a week.

Pneumonia lasted 2 weeks
 

Maxim726X

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Hopefully she gets some press about how she was determined to go to the memorial despite being sick in addition to all the "Clinton's health: a real issue" BS floating around now.

Well, doesn't seem to the be the case already. At least with NPR.

The headlines were 'Clinton's failing health- How serious is it?' followed by 'Clinton walks back comments about Trump supporters last weekend'. Or something to that effect.
 

GaimeGuy

Volunteer Deputy Campaign Director, Obama for America '16
I kinda think that clinton is trying to upbend the negative health news to her advantage here by disclosing her illness.

Pneunomia is serious but its not terminal and nothing that will impact her once she is healed. Also she is showing that she is still working despite her condititon. By that she is demonstrating to the voters "look im a vulnerable human being" with other candidates that would be damage control at best but if you look at clinton people mostly hate her "inhuman", "robotlike" behaviour. This is definately a more personal, private and immediate picture that is bei g shown here. Plus the trump campaign that is pondering on poor health of others is looking bad because it just manifests the image that they are relying on negativity only.

Would be quite a feat to pull this off though
Well,, no one's talking about her fainting, anymore.
 
Do you folks in the states have impartial news? Coming from the UK were lucky. Our TV is fairly impartial when it boils down to it. We even take the corporations to task when the telecoms watchdog thinks a news organisation is being one sided.

Our newspapers however are split when they come to politics.

Would be terrible to think I had to watch TV news workout getting spun into thinking one way.

But surely your public broadcasting has some sort of mandate to be impartial? I won't say the BBC is totally free of bias, but it does have a charter to be free of political and commercial influence, and if it's found to break that charter it gets investigated by an independent watchdog, etc.

There are several sources of impartial news in the U.S., but gradually fewer people as a percentage of the population use those to stay informed, choosing instead to be informed by the flashy graphics and personalities of cable news channels (and later internet sites).

Channels like ABC, CBS, and NBC were and are very good at presenting impartial news and were very popular at one point; however, they wouldn't broadcast news constantly and twenty-four hour news cable news channels became popular. PBS is also a good source.

The FCC requires only a small amount of the information cable news channels broadcast to be news or impartial and this is most heavily abused by Fox. Through clever manipulation, Fox became the sole news channel many conservatives watch.

Besides that, newspapers like the New York Times, Boston Globe, Washington Post, and LA Times are all notable and fairly impartial, but readership has declined.

Lastly, several generations of people have been severely miseducated. It's not so much that Americans have no access to impartial sources, they just choose not to use them or don't trust them.

So, not only Trump's jinxes got Hillary pnemonia, but also jeff_rigby banned.

What an election year!

Is this real life?
 

KingK

Member
This sucks. My mom had pneumonia a couple years ago. I hope she has a fast recovery.

I really hope they just have her take time off to recover until the first debate. I'd vote for her corpse over Trump. But I'd rather get it out of the way now and have her at full health for the final stretch of the campaign as opposed to ignoring it and letting it get worse.
 

KingK

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There are several sources of impartial news in the U.S., but gradually fewer people as a percentage of the population use those to stay informed, choosing instead to be informed by the flashy graphics and personalities of cable news channels (and later internet sites).

Channels like ABC, CBS, and NBC were and are very good at presenting impartial news and were very popular at one point; however, they wouldn't broadcast news constantly and twenty-four hour news cable news channels became popular. PBS is also a good source.

The FCC requires only a small amount of the information cable news channels broadcast to be news or impartial and this is most heavily abused by Fox. Through clever manipulation, Fox became the sole news channel many conservatives watch.

Besides that, newspapers like the New York Times, Boston Globe, Washington Post, and LA Times are all notable and fairly impartial, but readership has declined.

Lastly, several generations of people have been severely miseducated. It's not so much that Americans have no access to impartial sources, they just choose not to use them or don't trust them.



Is this real life?
Yeah I mostly listen to NPR for my news, it's really good. Like you said, PBS, ABC, plenty of newspapers, etc. really are great sources it's just that nobody uses them or sees them as untrustworthy.
 

NeoXChaos

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This sucks. My mom had pneumonia a couple years ago. I hope she has a fast recovery.

I really hope they just have her take time off to recover until the first debate. I'd vote for her corpse over Trump. But I'd rather get it out of the way now and have her at full health for the final stretch of the campaign as opposed to ignoring it and letting it get worse.

What is Bayh doing out there? Please tell me he's gonna pull it out.
 

Nivash

Member
Is this real life?

No, it's just fantasy. We're all caught in one of Trumps daydreams about winning in a landslide. It's his escape from reality.

And as for Jeff Rigby, he may tell us to open our eyes and look and see the sky, but he's just a poor boy. He doesn't even deserve our sympathy for getting himself banned. Easy come, easy go I guess. First you're a little high, then you're a little low.

That's just how the winds blow.
 

Maxim726X

Member
Damn, I guess the truth does come out at times.

It's better for her to come out ahead of this anyway, dispels any lingering controversy there would have otherwise been.

Although, you'd never know that by looking at the headlines of most major media publications. Shit, even NBC is in on the game: 'There's still a lot we don't know- 9 unanswered questions about Hillary Clinton's Health scare'.

It's like people forgot that sensationalist headlines get eyes or something.
 

Jetman

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Seeing a lot of completely shameless FB posts show up from the conservative right on this. Shit like "The medical van should have waited 13 hours before picking her up" and "what is Hillarys favorite pizza? Little Seizures".

There really is no low bar for the extreme right wing is there? Even someone damn near potentially dying. Shit just pisses me off, pretty close to deleting the lot of them.
 

rjinaz

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Seeing a lot of completely shameless FB posts show up from the conservative right on this. Shit like "The medical van should have waited 13 hours before picking her up" and "what is Hillarys favorite pizza? Little Seizures".

There really is no low bar for the extreme right wing is there? Even someone damn near potentially dying. Shit just pisses me off, pretty close to deleting the lot of them.

But I was told the other day by a gaf poster that it is the LEFT that is actually the hateful ones and he visits the_donald multiple times a day! I'm still dumbfounded at the work his mind must have put into that one to believe it.
 

KHlover

Banned
But I was told the other day by a gaf poster that it is the LEFT that is actually the hateful ones and he visits the_donald multiple times a day! I'm still dumbfounded at the work his mind must have put into that one to believe it.
One visit to /r/sandersforpresident should have sufficed for that.
 

rjinaz

Member
One visit to /r/sandersforpresident should have sufficed for that.

yeah I don't believe they are actually "the Left" at all. They are "independents" I guess you would say, people that don't like labels that can swing either way but tend to lean Right. The real Sander's supporters like myself have long since moved on and are backing Clinton.
 

chefbags

Member
No, it's just fantasy. We're all caught in one of Trumps daydreams about winning in a landslide. It's his escape from reality.

And as for Jeff Rigby, he may tell us to open our eyes and look and see the sky, but he's just a poor boy. He doesn't even deserve our sympathy for getting himself banned. Easy come, easy go I guess. First you're a little high, then you're a little low.

That's just how the winds blow.

It doesn't even matter. To me.
 

diablos991

Can’t stump the diablos
yeah I don't believe they are actually "the Left" at all. They are "independents" I guess you would say, people that don't like labels that can swing either way but tend to lean Right. The real Sander's supporters like myself have long since moved on and are backing Clinton.

So straight ticket Democrat is the definition of "real Sanders supporter"?
 
So straight ticket Democrat is the definition of "real Sanders supporter"?

Yes considering that's the only voting decision in the general election that would maximize helping progressives.

Then again we have been down this road before where you don't even understand why we have a 2 party system.
 

diablos991

Can’t stump the diablos
Yes considering that's the only voting decision in the general election that would maximize helping progressives.

Then again we have been down this road before where you don't even understand why we have a 2 party system.

That would maximize helping Democrats.
I would argue many independents are more progressive on policy and structure change than Democrats.

If you paid attention to the other threads you would realize I understand why we have a 2 party system but that I'm all for restructuring at least one of the parties. The nation needs both parties to break down and rebuild around serving the American people instead of the corruption.
 
But I was told the other day by a gaf poster that it is the LEFT that is actually the hateful ones and he visits the_donald multiple times a day! I'm still dumbfounded at the work his mind must have put into that one to believe it.

Yeah, but that same poster is also the one who said he considered Trump to be the great unifer for America, so that motherfucker is totally lost up his own ass. Joey Firefox, I think is his name.
 
Seeing a lot of completely shameless FB posts show up from the conservative right on this. Shit like "The medical van should have waited 13 hours before picking her up" and "what is Hillarys favorite pizza? Little Seizures".

There really is no low bar for the extreme right wing is there? Even someone damn near potentially dying. Shit just pisses me off, pretty close to deleting the lot of them.
Deplorables gonna deplore
 

Jonm1010

Banned
I figured this would be the hill jeff_rigby would die on, but never would I have thought it'd be in a Clinton Off-Topic thread. This is all kinds of crazy.
I honestly didn't expect to see Rigby on this side after his disasterous attempt to try and disprove climate change trough a web of conspiracy links and misreading of charts.
 

dramatis

Member
That would maximize helping Democrats.
I would argue many independents are more progressive on policy and structure change than Democrats.

If you paid attention to the other threads you would realize I understand why we have a 2 party system but that I'm all for restructuring at least one of the parties. The nation needs both parties to break down and rebuild around serving the American people instead of the corruption.
You're voting for a racist, sexist, hate-mongering fool. You're not more progressive than Democrats on anything.
 
You can't just hide it! It's not just a matter of smoke and mirrors.

TV has distorted everyone's perception.

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I would argue many independents are more progressive on policy and structure change than Democrats.

Burning the system down to root out perceived corruption is not progressive.

If you paid attention to the other threads you would realize I understand why we have a 2 party system but that I'm all for restructuring at least one of the parties. The nation needs both parties to break down and rebuild around serving the American people instead of the corruption.

The American people should vote more reliably and in state and local elections.
 
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