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Palmer Luckey issue statement on actions on Nimble America

Jarmel

Banned
Right. I'm just also trying to make the point that without direct access to the account or server, there's always going to be the possibility that digital evidence has been tampered with. It's kind of an inherently difficult thing to prove if you don't simply trust that the person is operating in good faith.

This would be a very strong case of libel if he fabricated emails and would effectively be a career ender for him. I doubt he would go that far.
 

Matt

Member
Right. I'm just also trying to make the point that without direct access to the account or server, there's always going to be the possibility that digital evidence has been tampered with. It's kind of an inherently difficult thing to prove if you don't simply trust that the person is operating in good faith.
But it's such an outlandish idea that even thinking along those lines seems pointless. No one is fabricating anything.
 

Uhyve

Member
Right. I'm just also trying to make the point that without direct access to the account or server, there's always going to be the possibility that digital evidence has been tampered with. It's kind of an inherently difficult thing to prove if you don't simply trust that the person is operating in good faith.
I get where you're coming from, but you'd have to be impressively stupid to defame such a rich person, especially after what just happen to Gawker.

Edit:
Yes! That's exactly the point I was originally going for.
Nevermind... I'm so slow at responding, urgh.
 

Wereroku

Member
Right. I'm just also trying to make the point that without direct access to the account or server, there's always going to be the possibility that digital evidence has been tampered with. It's kind of an inherently difficult thing to prove if you don't simply trust that I'm operating in good faith.
The only other possibility is that tdb got fished by someone with access to his email or one very close to it. Otherwise he is just a complete moron. If he really didn't send those emails we will probably see a court case since that's the only way he could clear it up.
 

studyguy

Member
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Jeez.
 
But it's such an outlandish idea that even thinking along those lines seems pointless. No one is fabricating anything.
It's easily verifiable, in any case. This was a preemptive move by TDB in case Luckey's prevarications turned the tides of public opinion against them.

It's incumbent on them to provide the unvarnished receipts sooner than later, though. Guys like Luckey can probably accomplish a lot with the benefit of time.
 

Extollere

Sucks at poetry
Man, VR has had such a crazy start... I can't think of any other emerging technology that's had anywhere near the amount of drama and twists that VR has had trying to get off the ground.
 

Megasoum

Banned
Thinking about Oculus right now....man... I just hope that John Carmack is not like that... I don't think I could deal with that, my childhood would be ruined.
 

Jarmel

Banned
Thinking about Oculus right now....man... I just hope that John Carmack is not like that... I don't think I could deal with that, my childhood would be ruined.

I am kinda curious about this now too. He's supposed to be a libertarian but I know a few libertarians who have thrown their hat into Trump's corner.
 

JackDT

Member
Wouldn't he check his sent email to remember what he said, like, a few days ago to the reporter in the email?

I mean, I guess it is like a Trump thing where you just flatly state a falsehood and don't give a FUCK. But jeez.

Also it's pretty clear he's not voting for Gary Johnson. He hasn't liked a single thing from him while he's liked like 500 Trump quotes. Give me a freaking break. Don't lie about stupid shit.

Vote for Trump -- a lot of people are -- but cut out the alt-right shitposting/trolling bullshit. What he should have said is that the kind of 'shitposting' he was talking about was not the swastika-toting twitter accounts calling everyone a beta cuck and screaming about the #WhiteGenocide or whatever. I wouldn't personally believe that given the Nimble founders clearly talk about their chan-inspired roots but at least it would talking to the reason people are reacting so strongly to this. He's trying to play it like he has no connection to anything and just happened to have access to the reddit credentials for the Nimble account making requests on the_donald reddit. But he wasn't writing the posts! No way!
 
Thinking about Oculus right now....man... I just hope that John Carmack is not like that... I don't think I could deal with that, my childhood would be ruined.

He probably supports Gary Johnson

Even if he supports Trump he doesn't seem to be the sort of guy who finds harassment or shitposting funny.
 

Fisty

Member
I am kinda curious about this now too. He's supposed to be a libertarian but I know a few libertarians who have thrown their hat into Trump's corner.

Let's not go down this road lol I agree I don't think I want to know until I have to
 
He's actually there ironically. All the kids today are supporting Trump and hate groups for the lulz

I know you're probably joking but there are actually a lot of people like that. It's scary.

For lots of people this is the first election they've ever followed, and many of them don't care much if at all about political positions or stances, they're just in it for the spectacle and drama. It's like a sports game to them.

But regardless of the reason they're supporting Trump, the end result is still the same - a racist gets elected. Ignorance is dangerous.
 

Fisty

Member
I know you're probably joking but there are actually a lot of people like that. It's scary.

For lots of people this is the first election they've ever followed, and many of them don't care much if at all about political positions or stances, they're just in it for the spectacle and drama. It's like a sports game to them.

But regardless of the reason they're supporting Trump, the end result is still the same - a racist gets elected. Ignorance is dangerous.

They can try and justify their attitude or behavior however they want. Act like a shit stain, you're a shit stain. Context doesn't matter. I remain optimistic that we will come together in November and deny Trump, the only reason I can sleep at night is because I believe this is just some super-vocal ultra-minority phenomenon
 

Seventy70

Member
Thinking about Oculus right now....man... I just hope that John Carmack is not like that... I don't think I could deal with that, my childhood would be ruined.

Carmack is a robotic type. He probably is for whoever he thinks is the most logical to him. He doesn't seem like the hateful type though, just a little weird and unsympathetic. IIRC he's into Rand which makes a lot of sense considering his character.
 

Paz

Member
It is somewhat poetic to see Luckey employ his idol's primary strategy of lying about stuff that can be easily fact checked within minutes, soon Luckey himself will be the dankest meme / shitpost just as he surely always hoped.

It is unfathomable to me that this statement would be the way forward for Luckey/Oculus.
 

ZarKryn7

Member
How does one say sorry and not sorry in one statement? Like dude, either you stand your ground or figuratively grovel for forgiveness.

But eh, why am I even brain dumping in a post on an outcome that was to be expected and probably remain stagnant.

I'm going to sleep.
 
I know im new posting here, but Let's keep this section of the board to video games. Something we all enjoy. Let's not let politics get involved with a thing we all enjoy.
 

DjRalford

Member
Ego is what killed him. He just haaaaadddd to be the "wealthy" donor. He had to be known as the wealthy donor.

What i don't get is he says there they made the account and it represents him, usually if something represents you it's not directly written by you.

Then in that other screenie he explicitaly says he posted himself.

Contradictory or what!
 

Simmins

Member
I know im new posting here, but Let's keep this section of the board to video games. Something we all enjoy. Let's not let politics get involved with a thing we all enjoy.

If that was true then all Nintendo DMCA threads or other controversial video game industry topics would go into OT. This board is about the Video Game industry, which encompasses Virtual Reality and HMD's. It seems like fair play to me.
 
I know im new posting here, but Let's keep this section of the board to video games. Something we all enjoy. Let's not let politics get involved with a thing we all enjoy.

The founder of the Oculus Rift, the device that effective launched the salvo of VR game development, is what this thread is based on. As it turns out, this individual is a shit bag racist.

It is absolutely related to games. If that makes you uncomfortable, post in a different thread.
 

Vibranium

Banned
Seems like he is digging a deeper hole, especially with a clear shot of him at a Trump rally that no doubt Facebook will take a look at. At least own up to your beliefs dude.
 
Are there any confirmed examples out there of these anonymous "shitposts" that came from Nimble America? I'm not doubting they exist I'm sure they do, but I'm curious to know what they look like.
 
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