MrCunningham
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Kojima is going all out on this one.
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Guerrilla Games announces Decima Engine (Death Stranding, Horizon, Killzone)
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Milly Osworth
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I liked how Kojima said how he improved the engine and they showed Hermens face as he said it. You could see him thinking "what, it was not good enough!?"
CyberPunked
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The game was announced for PC...
Krusenstern
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Comfort Jones
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People keep saying it's confirmed for PC. Please give proof of that outside of a deleted Q&A from a year ago.
I believe that Death Stranding is still coming to PC, but your post is nonsense. Sony's main goal with exclusives, is to make the PlayStation platform (console hardware + Network) more attractive. It's about the message 'games only on PS'. A bit more money of PC sales is..... not what they're looking for.
Comfort Jones
Banned
Dude has a point. As someone who plays games now almost entirely on my PC, Bloodborne was pretty much THE reason I got a ps4. Exclusives absolutely can sell your console and I'm sure they want some stuff to really show off the PS4 Pro.
There's absolutely no damn way I'm buying a pro any time soon though. Plus by the time this thing is finished, which I'd hope is 3 years from now MINIMUM, I imagine we'd be on a new console generation. I'd definitely buy a PS5 for a crazy Kojima game.
Please let me play this thing in 60 fps on a PC if I can't on Playstation ;~;
How... did Kojima improve it? He had a team?
Kenzodielocke
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Was the reveal trailer running on Decima aswell or what engine was that?
I'm not sure if Kojima actually said "improved" in the sense of actually improving GG's engine as a whole. I think he said something like "modified to better suit the game we're making" but the translator went with the improvement thing. But yeah I noticed Herman's face during that xD
-Plasma Reus-
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Safe to say any of his games going forward where he collapsed with sony like this are going to never be on xbox
In the foreseeable future he will surely stay with Playstation. But never say never.
Wavering Radiant
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Man.. watching that panel makes me really sad that Yu Suzuki isn't getting the same WWS / Cerny treatment that Kojima is.
Especially with him and Cerny seemingly being friends and all....
Not saying Kojima doesn't deserve it but I'm sure he would've made something amazing either way, while Suzuki really hasn't gotten the respect he (imo) deserves.
Especially with him and Cerny seemingly being friends and all....
Not saying Kojima doesn't deserve it but I'm sure he would've made something amazing either way, while Suzuki really hasn't gotten the respect he (imo) deserves.
Ghost Slayer
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Man.. watching that panel makes me really sad that Yu Suzuki isn't getting the same WWS / Cerny treatment that Kojima is.
Especially with him and Cerny seemingly being friends and all....
Not saying Kojima doesn't deserve it but I'm sure he would've made something amazing either way, while Suzuki really hasn't gotten the respect he (imo) deserves.
Did Yu Suzuki work with Sony before? Kojima and Sony had long relationship since PS1 era so it's understandable Sony offer Kojima better.
KaiserBecks
Member
Goodbye 60fps, helloooooooo input lag. After the great fluidity of MGS V and its controls/gameplay, this is just utterly disappointing. I like Guerrilla, but this doesn't match at all.
Uh what are you even talking about?
Input lag and framerate are not inherent to an engine.
Input lag often is, actually.
there's no input lag in KZ Shadow Fall and game runs at 60 fps in multiplayer
Ghost Slayer
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wait what? Are you KojiPro dev? How can you know this stuff?
KaiserBecks
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I'm not claiming they are, it's just that I'm associating the Fox Engine with snappy controls and Guerilla's work with the exact opposite. But I'm an optimist, so I'm hoping for the best.
It doesn't, the framerate is just unlocked. Unless they've changed that, I haven't touched the game since the launch of PS4.
CyberPunked
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"Please give me proof other than that proof". oh, okay...
TetraGenesis
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Since when is camerawork related to an engine? Hahahahaha
yeah, like in most "60 fps" games.
and engine has nothing to do with this. If they wanted, they could run this at locked 60 fps.
your first post here was strictly pessimistic, but you're "optimist". Ok
When Kojima met Guerrilla they introduced themselves and handed him this
That's the source code to Decima. He said they gave him that before any deals or contracts were in place.
That's cool as shit.
KaiserBecks
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What does that even mean? A lot of games don't run at 60fps so we're just going to call them 60fps anyway? Ok. Either way, MGS V wasn't one of those games.
And Guerrilla usually hasn't any interest in doing so, which is why I'm disappointed. I'm not sure what you're trying to tell me. "They could do it if they wanted" doesn't really change anything.
The engine does play a role here, it's tailored to a fixed piece of hardware. Guerrilla usually has a different focus. Thats fair, it's just disappointing to me.
your first post here was strictly pessimistic, but you're "optimist". Ok
I like Kojima, so I want this to be good.
No, it doesn't.
It has probably already been mentioned, but an engine being developed by Sony doesn't exclude that game also being made available for other platforms. Sony's own PhyreEngine has been used in games for PC a fair few times before and not by Sony themselves.
I'd have thought if it was definitely a PS4 exclusive, Sony would be clarifying that. They used the words 'console exclusive' but haven't upgraded to 'exclusive' - which there would be no reason not to (and plenty of reason to do) if it was definitely only ever going to be a PS4 game.
I'd have thought if it was definitely a PS4 exclusive, Sony would be clarifying that. They used the words 'console exclusive' but haven't upgraded to 'exclusive' - which there would be no reason not to (and plenty of reason to do) if it was definitely only ever going to be a PS4 game.
KaiserBecks
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Oh wow, well ok then. It doesn't matter anyway, the outcome is the same.
GIANKRATOS
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Very interesting panel. Can't wait to se Herman in the game lol
Makoto Yuki
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No they will show up after Sony Konami's his ass again, locks him up for 6 months in an office so they can finally Finish Death Stranding V: The Fantastic Pain. Without him spending too much time and money stroking his ego.
But it will be a pachinko game on Xbox.
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I was wondering this also.
It's the engine used for Killzone series.
The game listed are the ones made with this engine. It refers to Killzone Shadowfall etc.
Nope. But the Engine used for KZ:SF is the engine(modified version)) being used for DS, and Horizon.
blastprocessor
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I wonder if the game will be 60fps as MGS5 was sublime. Isn't this engine also used in another horror title can't remember the name...
Edit: Title in above post
Edit: Title in above post
Years easily, but it seems set to happen
BlackLagoon
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PhyreEngine was made to ease multi-platform development for third parties during the early PS3 era when an number of them were skipping the platform due to its notorious complexity. It officially supported both PC and 360, and had a very permissive license letting developers do whatever they wanted with it. I believe Sidhe even ported it to the Wii and iOS. It's not in any way comparable to Guerilla sharing their in-house proprietary tech.
in RIGS too
I dunno, I would find it extremely odd that they're working closely with a Sony first party, Mark Cerny the architect of the PS4 is a technical consultant, and SIE studios being used for motion capture would ever make this game remotely viable to be sold on the Xbox platform. PC fine but it's console exclusive surely?
Bolivar687
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For real