You're right, but the issue is that the baseline for Switch games is forced at the 1Ghz CPU clocks and 300Mhz GPU Clock, which those benchmarks you posted aren't representative of.
If Nintendo made two separate devices - and handheld with a custom Maxwell "X1"-like CPU downclocked to 300Mhz for GPU, no active cooling and thinner form factor - and a home console Shield TV2-like device, then you might see some console-only games which target the "home console "profile as a baseline. Likewise, in 4 years' time when there's a revised version of the hardware with, say, Volta onboard, the handheld might be able to run games that targeted the console's profile.
Also: The iPhone 7's CPU runs rings around the Switch.
That's been my point all along. The 'switch' feature is nice but it should be promoted as an extra bonus feature of a mobile device, not as a way to make console games portable. The expectations here are all wrong.nintendo ocer prices their stuff. $200 would be major surprise
Why not just advertise it as a handheld? This was made with Japan in mind. Calling it a console I was expecting xbox 1 level of performance and handheld mode would be close to it.
There's already many phones and tablets that outperform this one on the alleged specs
This is pretty much the successor to the 3DS. It'll be an absolutely brilliant one as well as its a huge update over that system.
I believe NoA called it a 'home console' just to disguise the fact they won't really be in that market anymore. Headlines of 'Nintendo pulls out of the home console market' aren't good for business or mindset.
It's a handheld which can be played on the TV via a dock. There isn't a market for them to be successful with a dedicated home console anymore.
I'm not too concerned about the size compared to the 3DS. Barely anyone walks around with a 3DS in their pocket. Mines always in my bag if I take it away and people are used to taking tablets around with them these days.
Pricing is definitely going to be key here. I think people can stomach these specs if it's priced accordingly. If they're going to charge a PS4 price, they're in for a hard time.
More or less 10x better.How does this compare to the Vita power wise?
So.... 10 hours battery life?
There's been a sea of rumors regarding the NX, but the funniest one now in hindsight is that Sony and Microsoft were making the PS4 Pro and Scorpio mainly because they learned of the NX's specs and they were worried it would make the PS4 and XB1 look too weak, it was that powerful.
The Shield is $199. This should be $99. Well, add $50 for the screen and whatever, $149.
Unless I missed something the recent patent info said otherwise and only the device has a fan. But even then the Dock technically does help with cooling as the fan runs at low RPMs when undocked but can run at much faster speeds, and thus cooler, when docked.
There is only one fan and it's in the main unit itself. The dock is literally a dock. The unit itself will know when it's docked and increase rpm of fan + clockspeed and that's it.
There isn't. The dock just lets the fan in the handheld spin faster. The vent in the dock is there for air intake and the air is expelled from the Switch's top vents.
Plugging the system into the dock will also activate a small additional fan to help with cooling when run at that higher clock speed. This fan is in the rear of the dock, and there is a gap in the back of the dock to allow the systems inbuilt fans to vent when docked.
Welp. I was wrong. It really is just a portable Wii U and bumped-up one when docked. Can we officially call NateDrake a fake now? This really is just where the successor to the Vita would land. Skyrim will chug on this. It's weaker than the PS3 by a huge margin when portable. This is not a current-generation machine.
I'm sorry to all of the naysayers I argued with. You were right. I'll never be optimistic about Nintendo again.
So how did Nvidia spend all those reported man hours designing the chips in this thing ??????
Why are we believing this over all the other rumors that say the complete opposite?
Eurogamer has been rock solid with their information. And PS4's RAM was correct, but changed at the last minute. Even developers didn't know it had 8GB of RAM until Sony revealed it.
So how did Nvidia spend all those reported man hours designing the chips in this thing ??????
Yes but the person I was responding to said those phones outperform the Shield TV
So all 3rd party multis will look way worse on switch and it will sell less than wii u.
So this is going to be another first party machine?
Why are we believing this over all the other rumors that say the complete opposite?
No one actually knows anything concrete about the system. Except what Nintendo has shown. It's not like this website has the Switch. No one does yet.
This is exactly what people feared about a hybrid. Crippling your home console for portability. As Microsoft releases a 6TF box this year I'm sure down porting games to last gen console power in the switch is going to be easy Lol. Standard one to two years of third party support on a Nintendo console then a wasteland incoming.
Rock solid...oh yeah that´s right! Brb playing the localized mother 3...
I was going off of this rumor
http://letsplayvideogames.com/2016/...increases-performance-not-via-extra-hardware/
I'd even posit that a $179 option would do wonders.
Exactly. "It's in excusable." No they're being realistic. Unless you want the battery life to be shit. "Should've been a console." Then you miss the point why the Switch was made in the first place.OutrageGAF in full force today. Anyone who was expecting more from a Tegra X1 was either delusional or think Nintendo has magic pixy dust they can apply to the Switch to make it super powerful in that form factor.
So yeah, still delusional.
Why are we believing this over all the other rumors that say the complete opposite?
No one actually knows anything concrete about the system. Except what Nintendo has shown. It's not like this website has the Switch. No one does yet.
Please have G-Sync at least in portable mode please have G-Sync please have G-Sync please have G-Sync please have G-Sync please have G-Sync please have G-Sync please have G-Sync.
This is exactly what people feared about a hybrid. Crippling your home console for portability. As Microsoft releases a 6TF box this year I'm sure down porting games to last gen console power in the switch is going to be easy Lol. Standard one to two years of third party support on a Nintendo console then a wasteland incoming.
So a Vita successor would do magic? Look at how lowclocked the vita was. It has to be stable, not like the smarphones with their "peak performance" which doesn't say anything when you are playing demanding games.
This is still a generational leap over Vita.
Where are these "we'll at least the price will be low" comments coming from?
I thought the pricing rumor we had is $250 base and $300 for a bundle. That's not low.
Nintendo gonna Nintendo.
Not really surprised about another low spec console.
5.5 times as powerful undocked, 14 times docked.
Edit: assuming it has the exact same innards as a Tegra X1 chip.
Welp, at least we might get that $199 price point after all.
Being a Nintendo fan is basically the equivalent of being an Arsenal one. Every time a new system is announced I hear how it won't be too far behind and they won't make the same mistakes again, but in the end, it's disappointingly weak and we're forced to accept it. Just like Arsenal, I hear how it's always gonna be our season and then the same mistakes happen again and we're forced to accept it.
I was going off of this rumor
http://letsplayvideogames.com/2016/...increases-performance-not-via-extra-hardware/
Laura said she was probably wrong on that. There is no aditional fan in the dock, at least not in the patent for switch.
You know unless it's a custom chip not featuring the same CUDA core count as a standard X1 or with other optimizations.
Don't do this straw man shit. People are disapppinted because it's weaker than Nvidia's X1 chip that came out a year and a half ago.TIL people are disappointed that a handheld system is weaker than a dedicated console. What?
So my shield tv is the more powerful box, it's just lacking Mario?
If Nintendo sells this thing at 149.99 it will sell as much at the Wii and developers would flock to it. This would be the best case scenario but knowing Nintendo I doubt it.
Underwhelming hardware from Nintendo is expected