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Rumor: BG&E2: Odyssey is a Switch timed exclusive (12 months, then PS4/XB1/PC)

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Karanlos

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Bullshit. She's doing this for the attention. If I were working on anything she has leaked I would've been pissed.

All that hard work gets spoiled by a attention __________.

This makes no sense... Person from Ubisoft leaks information to her... She reports it... She's now an attention seeker. Any other journalist would've reported it too if they had that information.
 

AHA-Lambda

Member
I'm alittle sensitive right now to leaks and with people who like to talk about stuff that's not public knowledge yet. I've just seen the negative side of things recently because asshole wanted to talk about things they weren't clear to talk about. I'm probably overreacting. Will drop it.


Not in the video game industry.

Yeah, you are. Take a chill pill.

Do you get this worked up every rumour and leak you see?
 

jet1911

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This makes no sense... Person from Ubisoft leaks information to her... She reports it... She's now an attention seeker. Any other journalist would've reported it too if they had that information.

Press sneak fuks and attention seekers are everywhere!
 
I don't know how being a timed exclusive would work out for the system or the game, but it certainly makes the Switch's library more appealing.
 
After years of the company telling the consumer they need to buy their games for PS3 and 360 in order to make the sequel, they're making it a Nintendo exclusive? Thanks for ensuring it's the end of the series and no one will play it.

I'll wait for the ports. I've already waited years, and I'd like to play one of the better versions on halfway decent hardware.
 

Oregano

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The following are million sellers:
Dragon Quest
Monster Strike
Puzzle and Dragons

But we can exclude them if you really want and just list stuff like:
Youkai Watch
Fantasy Life
Bravely Default

Those are just ones of the top of my head.
 
I think this makes a lot more sense than Bayonetta 2 did, so why the complaints? BG&E is more in line with what Nintendo produces than Bayonetta was, and the first game released on a Nintendo console, unlike Bayonetta.

Also anyone asking why Nintendo would want this as an exclusive, clearly hasn't seen Nintendo's recent 3rd party game lineup. They will take anything they can get, and of all of the current games in development hell, BG&E just makes sense for Nintendo to pull a Bayonetta 2.
 
Mind if I use you in this example?

You're a dev with a fanbase. Your fanbase has been asking for said game for awhile. Your company strikes a deal with a console maker. YOU WORK YOUR ASS OFF to make this game possible and you're excited to see it announced and shown at a event and it's meant to be a surprised.

Here comes a twit with no talent who just happened to have a source.

Fuck all the work you put in and steam the reveal teaser could have build for your title be a use it went from a surprise to expected.

Think I'm lying. Look at what happened for the Switch when it was revealed. Gaf reaction: yeah we've been discussing this for a while now. Why the fuck did Nintendo take so long?



Usually I would not be bothered at all by leaks. At this point this lady just won't shut it long enough for Nintendo to say their piece. She's using Nintendo's event to stay relavent.
I see what you're saying but it isn't going to matter in the long run. Gaf is going to Gaf regardless. Sure, some of the excitement and anticipation will have dissipated for online forums like this but Nintendo and the devs can absolutely deliver.

As a dev, I would just look at it as being part of the internet culture of today. It sucks but you just do what you can do for the presentation to the rest of the market outside of internet forums.

Seeing this post, i think that might be their intent..but i think they will have to try much harder than a timed exclusivity period to do that.
Sure, but you have to start from somewhere. Beggars can't be choosers.
 
My gut feeling(which tends to usually be pretty damn spot on) is that Ubisoft and Nintendo have most likely "talked". I think those talks would probably encompass Ubisoft becoming a second party/being bought out by Nintendo with the agreement that Ubisoft will *still* be able to make games for other systems but Nintendo will obviously get those games first and foremost. This would allow Ubisoft to basically continue on without the threat of Vivendi continually coming after them, they still pretty much are allowed to remain independant and Nintendo reaps those benefits with Ubi. I'll mark this post for future reference......
You mark this post bro, because it'll happen on the 21st of NEVER.
 
It's not really about hype or anticipation. It's simply about reaching the handful of people interested in the project. A lot of the people interested in this game may not be interested in the Switch, but will at least look at it now that the game is coming to the system. Once again generating mindshare. We can debate the total impact the game will have (it will probably be pretty low) but it will have an impact.

But who is it really going to appeal to outside of hardcore fans. And are those hardcore fans going to be willing to buy another platform to play it? It doesn't seem likely. Kinda like with Bayonetta 2. It has a hardcore following, but those hardcore fans probably aren't going to spend several hundred dollars in order to play it.

I'm not even salty about it as I defended the rumor that surfaced early last year suggesting that it was a full exclusive to the Switch. But this timed exclusive thing? That really doesn't make any sense.

I think this makes a lot more sense than Bayonetta 2 did, so why the complaints? BG&E is more in line with what Nintendo produces than Bayonetta was, and the first game released on a Nintendo console, unlike Bayonetta.

Also anyone asking why Nintendo would want this as an exclusive, clearly hasn't seen Nintendo's recent 3rd party game lineup. They will take anything they can get, and of all of the current games in development hell, BG&E just makes sense for Nintendo to pull a Bayonetta 2.

Bayonetta made far more sense. B2 wouldn't have been released without Nintendo stepping in. Sega had abandoned it and it would've gone unreleased. That's why it's exclusive to the Wii U. This being timed exclusive means that UBI is willing to fund its development, but they're willing to give it to Nintendo for a year of exclusivity. Which doesn't really make a lot of sense.
 
"Nintendo needs to court third parties and money hat games"

*Nintendo does*

"This timed exclusive is a terrible idea"

thisisneogaf.gif
 

Eliseo

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After years of the company telling the consumer they need to buy their games for PS3 and 360 in order to make the sequel, they're making it a Nintendo exclusive? Thanks for ensuring it's the end of the series and no one will play it.

I'll wait for the ports. I've already waited years, and I'd like to play one of the better versions on halfway decent hardware.

God I love these kind of post, they always deliver.
 

Dremorak

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How dare this console manufacturer make a deal for an exclusive game. Its like they are trying to make me want to BUY the console. This is unpresidented. SMH.
 

Akainu

Member
The following are million sellers:
Dragon Quest
Monster Strike
Puzzle and Dragons

But we can exclude them if you really want and just list stuff like:
Youkai Watch
Fantasy Life
Bravely Default

Those are just ones of the top of my head.

I didn't let monster hunter slide and you pull out dragon quest? Come on. Those others i can accept. Though i never heard of the other two under it. Is one/both of those a mobile games? Anyway better job.
 

Oregano

Member
I didn't let monster hunter slide and you pull out dragon quest? Come on. Those others i can accept. Though i never heard of the other two under it. Is one/both of those a mobile games? Anyway better job.

That's why said you can exclude them and yes those are adaptations of mobile games. I misspoke though Monster Strike hasn't quite yet sold through its one million copy shipment.
 

Doctre81

Member
After years of the company telling the consumer they need to buy their games for PS3 and 360 in order to make the sequel, they're making it a Nintendo exclusive? Thanks for ensuring it's the end of the series and no one will play it.

I'll wait for the ports. I've already waited years, and I'd like to play one of the better versions on halfway decent hardware.

How do you think nintendo fans felt when all the profits to ubisoft wii games went to making big budget 360 and ps3 games that never came to wii?
 

Doctre81

Member
And you know this how?

Because they said so?

"Guillemot said the company's casual games business was "extremely profitable" and helped to finance the initially costly development of games for next-generation consoles -- Sony's (6758.T: Quote, Profile, Research) PlayStation3 and Microsoft's (MSFT.O: Quote, Profile, Research) Xbox 360.

According to the Ubisoft CEO, developing a casual game costs anywhere between 1 million to 4 million euros depending on the number of platforms with which it is compatible.

By comparison, a normal game developed for the Wii costs 5 million to 10 million, and one designed for use with the PlayStation3 and Xbox 360 10 million to 20 million euros."
 

Ridley327

Member
Still not too convinced. At least based on Ancel's posts.
Hope that it's good if true

What is this actually contradicting? I've been reading transcripts, and the only thing he mentions about hardware is how current hardware can make his vision possible, which implies that was the issue why it wasn't able to get to a point where it could actually be presented on PS3/360.

If the issue is that it's being announced too early as its now entering full development... well, it's not like people waiting for BG&E2 already are going to be particularly surprised.
 

Soroc

Member
Along with all the regular insanity of video game discussion, we now have people so upset at leakers that they're calling them "attention whores".

Apparently this isn't isolated to this forum. Not sure what this is about but its on multiple forums today. (unless same people are cross posting maybe) Makes no sense to me.... 2017 insanity right from the get go!
 
Because they said so?

"Guillemot said the company's casual games business was "extremely profitable" and helped to finance the initially costly development of games for next-generation consoles -- Sony's (6758.T: Quote, Profile, Research) PlayStation3 and Microsoft's (MSFT.O: Quote, Profile, Research) Xbox 360.

According to the Ubisoft CEO, developing a casual game costs anywhere between 1 million to 4 million euros depending on the number of platforms with which it is compatible.

By comparison, a normal game developed for the Wii costs 5 million to 10 million, and one designed for use with the PlayStation3 and Xbox 360 10 million to 20 million euros."

I'm fairly sure Ubisoft flat out said that was their strategy last year generation.http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=184305

I mean in the same article they say that casual games (I assume stuff like Red Steel, Far Cry, or Tenchu doesn't count here) are only accounting for 20% of their revenue.

But I didn't know about that, thanks.

Apparently this isn't isolated to this forum. Not sure what this is about but its on multiple forums today. (unless same people are cross posting maybe) Makes no sense to me.... 2017 insanity right from the get go!

There's been some case of "attention whores" leakers or insiders over here on GAF, which are banned now.
 

Red Devil

Member
I'm not familiar with what happened with Rayman Legends care to fill me in? If BG&E2 isn't paid for by Nintendo, then I can only guess it's a low cost method for Ubisoft to fulfill their commitment to Switch in lieu of porting their main franchises.

Rayman Legends was originally touted as a Wii U exclusive as the release date came closer the game was delayed and released across all platforms, it launched the same week as a GTAV did, it still sold over 500,000 on Wii U, if I recall correctly(I think PS4 outdid it).
 
How do you think nintendo fans felt when all the profits to ubisoft wii games went to making big budget 360 and ps3 games that never came to wii?

If they felt annoyed in the same capacity, then their feelings were misguided. The reason Nintendo's platforms don't get the same games is because of the limitations of the hardware (the fault of Nintendo); it would require crushing creative vision and gimping titles significantly for three significantly more profitable platforms with much larger user bases.

I also think you may be misunderstanding what I'm saying to some degree. I'm not annoyed that I'm not getting the game for my platform of choice day one per se, it's more that it's going to significantly harm the game's chance of success by alienating many who would buy it via their previous practice. You don't openly demand money from specific platform holders for a specific purpose and then change platforms. No one has ever openly done that to Nintendo gamers (that I'm aware of). Using pooled resources one can assume partially (minimally) came from one platform for future projects is not one and the same and should be expected.

In general, don't support the idea of paying companies to postpone production for other platforms. It's dirty and anti-consumer. Paying to have a game made that otherwise would not have happened (Bayonetta 3), I'm perfectly fine with, however.
 

Hale-XF11

Member
Ugh, that means by the time it finally comes to the platform of my choice, I will likely have already been exposed to any spoilers and my enthusiasm for the game will be severely dwindled.
 

Wildean

Member
The exclusive Ubisoft launch title is becoming a Nintendo tradition. For my money, this is a lot more interesting than Red Steel or ZombiiU.
 
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