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[mrklaw]

Charges on the console. Why would you want the charging one unless you had 2 more?

Because if you're docked your controller isnt charging. And for their size I'd expect them to have quite short battery life

Worst case would be undocked with the joycons disconnected. You could end up having to juggle two USB cables to keep the switch and the controller charged if you play long sessions like that

 

[datwr]

Trying to make sense of this.

Basically, I have to reattach the joycons to the tablet to charge them? Or does the included grip at least have a USB pass through (no battery) that means I can essentially treat it as I do a normal gamepad?

That's the difference, the included one is just plastic, and the extra one you can buy have the by-pass. Just 9 gram weight difference.

 

[Deleted member 752119]

Can't you just pop the Joy-Con's on the tablet to charge them? Why is THIS of all problems a sticking issue for people?

Can't play on TV while charging if they die on you. Hassle of having to move them between the included grip and tablet for those that rarely play in portable mode. Already over priced to many, having to buy a $30 charger grip or $70 pro controller to alleviate those issues is salt in the wound for some.

It's not a huge deal for me, but I get the annoyances for many.

 

[Occam]

The gift that keeps on giving.

 

[Living the Dream]

I don't understand. With just the included components. How do I charge my Joy Cons? Only when attached to the console itself?

Yep

 

[Spades]

Can't you just pop the Joy-Con's on the tablet to charge them? Why is THIS of all problems a sticking issue for people?

Because not being able to charge your controller whilst playing (on the TV) could be a big deal to some people? It's yet another legitimate concern.

 

[rtcn63]

This is what Nintendo are trying to do to their customers with this abomination

A few too many Nintendo fans right now

 

[Vampirolol]

Is this like the fifth thread? And always with the same non-informations?

 

[Trojita]

I don't understand. With just the included components. How do I charge my Joy Cons? Only when attached to the console itself?

I assume they would charge when attached to the tablet as well if they weren't at full power. Who knows what that means for the battery life of the switch when doing this.

Being unable to charge the system while playing on your TV unless you buy a $30 accessory on top of everything else is pretty lame.

 

[xxracerxx]

For people having a hard time understanding.

WHAT IS PACKED IN THE BOX:

WHAT YOU PAY $30 FOR (CHARGING GRIP):

edit: Also:

Where dat USB-C port at on the main official page???

 

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

EDIT: ^^^YUP

From what I took

The Switch Console is essentially the in-the-box charger

Meaning to charge the JoyCons they will need to be plugged/snapped into the Switch after use to charge the JoyCons

or you can buy the Accessory which is the 'Battery' with an actual USB plug that chargers all three together

 

[Conkerkid11]

Wait, what's the difference between the charging grip and the regular grip if you can just connect the USB cable directly to the Joycons?

You can't. The only way to charge them without the charging grip is by connecting them to the tablet while it's docked, or likely while it's undocked and plugged into an outlet via USB.

Either of those options result in you being unable to play on a TV while charging like most modern controllers.

 

[Chindogg]

Ok the Grip they presented on the Treehouse stream was the charging one.

I take back what I said.

 

[Shaanyboi]

A few too many Nintendo fans right now

Hey she's playing the milking game...

 

[ElTorro]

What I still don't know is if the packed-in grip just does not have an integrated battery or if it also does not have a USB-port to charge the joy cons.

 

[Deleted member 752119]

Because if you're docked your controller isnt charging. And for their size I'd expect them to have quite short battery life

Well, that's the one bit of good news. The same spec sheets people have been posting put the Joy Con battery life at 20 hours.

So if you don't mind the hassle of having to remove them from the comfort grip (that doesn't charge) to the tablet to charge and then back again to play everytime there's nothing to worry over. Assuming the spec sheet is accurate of course.

 

[Effect]

Can't play on TV while charging if they die on you. Hassle of having to move them between the included grip and tablet for those that rarely play in portable mode. Already over priced to many, having to buy a $30 charger grip or $70 pro controller to alleviate those issues is salt in the wound for some.

It's not a huge deal for me, but I get the annoyances for many.

Unless you're simply not putting them back on the Switch when you're done playing or for some reason are approaching a 24 hour marathon they shouldn't die on you. They're suppose to last 20 hours on a full charge. Do people blame Sony or Microsoft when they go to play and find the controllers dead because they don't plug in their controllers to charge them via the default method?

 

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

Hey she's playing the milking game...

that other girl is playing the eating game!

 

[SRTtoZ]

They should have just made 1 Grip. While its no big deal to plug your controllers into the tablet to charge them it will be annoying if you're in the middle of a game and you need to stop playing to charge or just play in tablet mode. Whatever.

 

[PowerThroughLov]

The Joy Cons get 20 hours of battery apparently. Your not gonna do a 20 hour in one shot gameplay session. So just attach them to the console between sessions.

This seems like people looking for something to complain about.

 

[Jarmel]

So if your controllers die on you, you can't use the TV option unless you buy the accessory? Am I understanding this correctly?

 

[AsakuraZ]

Man, a lot of these threads for this cropping up. Even without the charging grip, these suckers get close to 20hrs before they need to be recharged. Like many people have stated before, unless you plan on going for a 20hr long gaming session, you'll be putting this things back on the tablet when they're not in use and within 3.5 hrs you'll have a full recharge. Its honestly the same thing as a PS4 controller guys and that controller definitely doesn't have a 20hr lifespan and I'm doing fine by just docking it when not in use.

I guess the issue here is that the new of the grip and the charging grip is too similar? Or just people want to keep the anger going from last night?

 

[TimeEffect]

I dont understand.

The grip has EXTRA juice for the joycons in the $30 version?

but you can charge the joycons normally anyway, just have to dock it.

...assuming battery life is pretty good, Im not seeing the HUGE deal. I dont know why the charger version really exists. It just seems confusing.

I wonder if they could have not made the charge version, and just use the money saved to make the pro cheaper. I wish they would just make the Pro affordable. Any reason why the Wii U pro isnt compatible here?

 

[xxracerxx]

So if your controllers die on you, you can't use the TV option unless you buy the accessory? Am I understanding this correctly?

You can charge them using the display unit.

 

[Crazyorloco]

Specs says to dock the JoyCons to the console or the JoyCon charging grip to charge them. The console comes with the dock and an AC adapter, so the JoyCons are charged in addition to the console when plugged in.


Specs say roughly 20 hour battery life on JoyCons, roughly 3.5 hours to charge.

20 hours. Finally something good from this thing. I'm glad.

 

[NSESN]

I don't think it is a problem seeing that the Joy-Con can last a lot of time. The problem that i see is that the product messaging is pretty confusing and not a good sign for Switch future.

 

[Veitsev]

This is definitely stupid and cash grabby but should not realistically be an issue with 20 hour battery life. Basically if you are freaking out over this and thinking about buying a charging grip..don't.

 

[QuixoticNeutral]

As far as charging goes, I'm more concerned that the kickstand mode on the console precludes its bottom-facing USB-C from connecting to AC power at the same time. It seems weird that you couldn't use it for long sessions plugged in (Joy-Cons detached, kickstand up) but you can if you attach the Joy-Cons and treat the whole system as a handheld.

 

[TimeEffect]

I don't think it is a problem seeing that the Joy-Con can last a lot of time. The problem that i see is that the product messaging is pretty confusing and not a good sign for Switch future.

It's absolutely confusing.

And they have the Pro controller, which really should be the only alternative, and it should be cheaper. I wish they developed a way to make Pro WiiU compatible, and to bring the cost down on the Pro Model.

Is the default grip comfortable at all?

 

[Deleted member 752119]

Unless you're simply not putting them back on the Switch when you're done playing or for some reason are approaching a 24 hour marathon they shouldn't die on you. They're suppose to last 20 hours on a full charge.

Yep, as I said above, it's really only an issue in that it's a hassle to move them back and forth for people using it just as a console.

It's enough of a hassle (along with just preferring to leave the Joy Cons on the tablet for quick "switching") that I'll probably just grit my teeth and buy the overpriced pro controller.

 

[Totakeke]

So I can't play Zelda for 24 hours straight on the TV without buying an accessory? Nintendo has no clue what they're doing.

 

[ASIS]

Two stupid questions about the battery of the joy cons since I don't know where else to ask them:

1. Does the Switch need to be powered on to charge? Or can I just snap them while its off and it will continue charging?

2. Does the wrist straps enhance the battery life?


... I told you they are stupid questions but I really want to know.

It's absolutely confusing.

And they have the Pro controller, which really should be the only alternative, and it should be cheaper. I wish they developed a way to make Pro WiiU compatible, and to bring the cost down on the Pro Model.

Is the default grip comfortable at all?

A few reports say the grip is better than the pro controller.

 

[crinale]

What I still don't know is if the packed-in grip just does not have an integrated battery or if it also does not have a USB-port to charge the joy cons.

It lacks USB port. You can NOT charge joy-cons while connecting to pack-in grip.

 

[Hasney]

Because if you're docked your controller isnt charging. And for their size I'd expect them to have quite short battery life

Worst case would be undocked with the joycons disconnected. You could end up having to juggle two USB cables to keep the switch and the controller charged if you play long sessions like that

They're 20 hours battery allegedly on the JP spec sheet.

 

[Kaelan]

Because not being able to charge your controller whilst playing (on the TV) could be a big deal to some people? It's yet another legitimate concern.

This. Are people so dense they don't understand some of these concerns are legitimate?

 

[Jarmel]

You can charge them using the display unit.

So like every other wireless controller? You just connect it to the main unit via USB?

 

[jax]

What I did is just bought an extra R/B joycon so I can have a red switch, and for when I want to use 2 player the extra blue joycon are permanently on that $30 charger. $100 is a little steep for a controller, but you're really getting two controllers and a color change out of it, so not that bad.

I assumed this was the case and it makes sense. Done playing slide the JoyCons on to the switch. When you're ready to play slide them off and into the grip. This seems fairly simple. The charge on the JoyCons are suppose to last several hours. 20 hours I think it was said on a full charge.

Or buy a charging grip for $30 I think and not do that. Or buy a pro controller and leave the JoyCons always connected to the Switch. Other systems have additional charging methods you can buy extra. There is no different.

Get this reason and logic the hell out of here! Nintendo is doomed! Doomed I say!

 

[foltzie1]

Sooo... how then would you be expected to charge the things?

Attach them to the Switch console, it will charge them.

 

[Conkerkid11]

What I still don't know is if the packed-in grip just does not have an integrated battery or if it also does not have a USB-port to charge the joy cons.

I dont understand.

The grip has EXTRA juice for the joycons in the $30 version?

but you can charge the joycons normally anyway, just have to dock it.

...assuming battery life is pretty good, Im not seeing the HUGE deal. I dont know why the charger version really exists. It just seems confusing.

I wonder if they could have not made the charge version, and just use the money saved to make the pro cheaper. I wish they would just make the Pro affordable. Any reason why the Wii U pro isnt compatible here?

Because a modern day controller like the Xbone controller, PS4 controller, or hell... The Wii U Pro controller, can be charged while I'm playing a game. They also take standard USBs that everybody has lying around the house, so it's easy to plug in and charge several controllers.

Whereas by default, you can only charge one set of joy-cons at a time, and you can only do so while not playing the console, or while playing it portably.

Damn guys just put the joycons on your switch and dock it at night. Makes it a literal none issue.

What about the other sets of joy-cons for local multiplayer?

 

[Vital Tundra]

Damn guys just put the joycons on your switch and dock it at night. Makes it a literal none issue.

 

[PSFan]

Either of those options result in you being unable to play on a TV while charging like most modern controllers.

Well, that's wrong. I use my Gamepad with my Wii U while it is plugged in and charging, also use my DS4 on my PS4 while plugged and charging and my DS3 with my PS3 as well.

They all charge while I play.

 

[rpmurphy]

Where are people getting the idea that the charging grip has a battery in it? Specs say nothing of the sort. Only the JoyCons themselves and the Pro Controllers have Li-ion batteries. The charging grip is the same as the bundled grip but just with a USB-C port that allows you to connect that with the USB charging cable (included with the charging grip) or AC adapter.

 

[RootCause]

Again, the difference is that the pack in grip has a USB port for charging, which the stand alone grip has a battery pack.

Included grip can charge they joy cons, but they won't have a battery that can be used to recharge the joy cons on the go.

Correct?

 

[wiibomb]

It lacks USB port. You can NOT charge joy-cons while connecting to pack-in grip.

ummm.. but the pack in grip is a battery itself, it charges the joy-cons while playing, right?

 

[NotLiquid]

Willing to eat crow on this one then.

If the battery life really is good enough that it can hold a 20 hour charge (which I can believe since the Wii U Pro Controller battery is stupidly good) then I don't see this being an issue personally - just click the Joy-Cons into the console once I'm done playing. But this is still kind of incomprehensible.

 

[UrbanRats]

Just pile on one more reason to get this thing dirt cheap, used, like i did with the WiiU.

 

[Baroquemantic]

The Joy Cons get 20 hours of battery apparently. Your not gonna do a 20 hour in one shot gameplay session. So just attach them to the console between sessions.

This seems like people looking for something to complain about.

The battery will eventually run out, though. If you want to continue playing on your television, you'll have to shell out for a pro controller or a charging grip. It's not hard to understand.

 

[Deleted member 752119]

I dont understand.

The grip has EXTRA juice for the joycons in the $30 version?

but you can charge the joycons normally anyway, just have to dock it.

No battery in the $30 charging grip. Just a USB-c connection and charger contacts in the rails. Thus you can just plug into to charge the joycons and keep gaming on the TV while charging.

Without that, the grip that comes with it is just as plastic shell and can't charge the JoyCons. Thus only way to charge is too put them on the tablet and have it docked or plugged in. Thus can't game on TV if they happen to die on you (not huge deal with 20 hour battery life), and hassle to some to have to move them back and forth between the tablet and grip.

 

[ElTorro]

For people having a hard time understanding.

WHAT IS PACKED IN THE BOX:



WHAT YOU PAY $30 FOR (CHARGING GRIP):

That's really stupid. It's ok to not have an additional battery in the grip that comes with the system. But to not even have a USB port is just silly. How expensive can such a pretty essential thing be?

 

[broncobuster]

That's the difference, the included one is just plastic, and the extra one you can buy have the by-pass. Just 9 gram weight difference.

Thanks. That's bizarre. I thought the $30 one had a battery and that's why it's called a charging grip. Then again, looking at other Switch prices, $30 for a battery grip would be reasonable.