Whompa02
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Switch charging time is 3 hours, non-removable battery
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That is what I'd be worried about. Ending up with a dead battery system if it can't continue playing from then on connected to the dock or USB-C cable.
We have been having this "dicussion" since Vita/3ds. People don't understand that lithium ion tech has stagnated. The vita at launch had 3-5 hours of battery life and a 2.5 hour charge time. Sound familiar?
TetraGenesis
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Jesus. Christ.
Palette Swap
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The small print to the small print to the small print.
iPhone 7 has about 1900 mAh battery and the 7+ Has about 2900 mAh. It's a pretty decent battery size.
The thing about Switch being a hybrid system means you always hear justifications that skew towards the side other than the one the discussion is about depending on how it suits the person. For instance:
1) When there is a concern about Switch's power especially for its price and year of launch, the justification is "It's a console that goes portable and the difference between it and 3DS is huge". Also implying that it's fine for it to be like that because it provides a big jump from 3DS.
2) When there is a concern about its portability such as this thread, the justification becomes something along the lines of "It was never meant to be a portable console that replaces 3DS".
Smh
1) When there is a concern about Switch's power especially for its price and year of launch, the justification is "It's a console that goes portable and the difference between it and 3DS is huge". Also implying that it's fine for it to be like that because it provides a big jump from 3DS.
2) When there is a concern about its portability such as this thread, the justification becomes something along the lines of "It was never meant to be a portable console that replaces 3DS".
Smh
Tablet batteries are generally sealed within the case of the machine. They are also pretty big, occupying most of the case. Replacing them is not easy given how the insides of tablets are worked out. For example if you open an ipad it can be easy to mess up the screen if your not careful. Look at this for example. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnjtvMCndcw
Would you want inexperienced people to mess around in such a manner?
SporeCrawler
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You can play while charging so non-issue. The hassle here is that you keed to carry a portable battery
no it actually is going to replace 3ds and it is going to have revisions just like 3ds
InsaneTiger
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Nintendo fans will be working hard to spin this awful news.
The macbooks cost over a grand and run very efficient skylake CPUs, and the other two examples are not powering 6.2 inch screens with games much more intensive at 720p
I'm getting at 4310 mAh is shit for what the Switchs USP is. It is not hard.
If Nintendo think 2.5 hour playtime is acceptable for something they are touting as a 'on the go' system, I think they are being deliberately disengious
cubicle47b
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The battery life of the Vita was 3-5 hours. The battery life of the 3DS was 3.5-5.5 hours. I tear through my IPad battery playing board game adaptations. I don't see what's so terrible about this.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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Ok?
A vacuum is not a game console, so I don't get the comparison. Besides, vacuums use a fuck of a lot more power than a console.
The price in the Uk is exactly the same as the shield pro, which has the same chip in it. Mobile tech is expensive. So they price is likely the best they can do and still make a profit. Even for the non pro shield it's still 180 pounds and that's without a controller.
Darryl M R
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That its is a bad battery for the what people are expecting from the Switch and it being non-removable.
But feel free to break down the chemistry of batteries for me.
This is the song and dance I've been seeing most of today. And to be fair it's not from just one person or "one gaf" but like come on. The Switch biggest advantage is being able to shift how it is compared and discussed lol
Nintendo Switch
Playtime: 2.5-6.5 hours
Charge Time: 3 hours
Playstation Vita
Playtime: 3-5 hours (Slim was up to 6)
Charge time: 2.5 hours
Nintendo 3ds (original)
Playtime: 3-5 hours for 3ds games
Charge time: 3.5 hours
Doctor Avatar
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So you're trying to tell me it's a piss-poor console (awful level of power for the price) and a piss poor handheld (awful battery life)? Why do you expect people to be happy about that?
So many concessions were made to allow this to be a portable console. The power level of the console which makes it look like a very poor value proposition compared to a PS4. The media, in cartridges, which are more expensive than discs. Low amount of internal storage as it has to be flash.
Basically it's a home console, with the added cost and drawbacks of being portable, but is actually a pretty awful portable?
This reveal has really, really bummed me out. The Switch idea is fantastic, the execution is absolutely abysmal and I don't think anyone should buy one over a PS4 or XB1 which will cost less, provide better graphics, have more games, have better online etc.
At best this is a second console, and even at that it's not very appealing given it will cost more than your main console.
Milly Osworth
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Honestly for a Nintendo fan, it probably is. This is the day where we got 100% confirmed that Nintendo doesn't get it and that they never will.
SirMossyBloke
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Nintendo Switch |OT| The electric razor of consoles
thecouncil
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ive been trying to stay positive today despite the barrage of terrible news, but this... this is when the tears started welling up. its almost difficult to breathe like im having a panic attack or something. i hate nintendo so goddamn much. they're ruining everything the rumors and my imagination had made up.
Unknown Soldier
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There's nothing wrong with Tegra in perf/watt, in fact it has the most powerful mobile GPU in perf/watt. But phones and tablets aren't usually running full-tilt continuously for hours like game systems are.
The problem isn't the SoC, it's the hopelessly inadequately sized battery. Your average tablet contains a battery in the 8000 mAh range. 4310 mAh is a bad joke for a product like this.
PeakPointMatrix
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I thought one of the key benefits of USB-C was quicker power transfer?
I'll probably just end up leaving it in the cradle as a console regardless. The switch sounds like it will drain itself dead in sleep mode, like the 3DS before it.
I'll probably just end up leaving it in the cradle as a console regardless. The switch sounds like it will drain itself dead in sleep mode, like the 3DS before it.
What did he mean by this?
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Diablohead
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Not in all cases, my phone for example fast charges in 80 minutes and can play 3D games for 3 hours or so.
Hydrargyrus
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3 Hours for 4310mAh?
Do you have to recharge it with a manual dynamo??
Do you have to recharge it with a manual dynamo??
The_Afroman
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oh for god sakes.. so much hyperbole in here..
It uses USB-C get a bettery pack. it's what i did for my Wii U game pad and what i have for my 3DS i never run out of power.
It uses USB-C get a bettery pack. it's what i did for my Wii U game pad and what i have for my 3DS i never run out of power.
3 hour charge time?
Gotdamn. Wtf are they smoking?
I'm on the Switch boat say one dude. But 3hrs to hit max charge is ridiculous. I can't think of a single device I own (I have quite a bit) that takes 3hrs to charge. That's ludicrous, and I'm pretty sure we can safely bet that this will go through quite a few revisions. But it seems battery tech is still at a stand still or the food shit is too expensive.
A portable charger doesn't excuse this imo. If they intended the device to be mobile then this should have at least been addressed.
Gotdamn. Wtf are they smoking?
oh for god sakes.. so much hyperbole in here..
It uses USB-C get a bettery pack. it's what i did for my Wii U game pad and what i have for my 3DS i never run out of power.
I'm on the Switch boat say one dude. But 3hrs to hit max charge is ridiculous. I can't think of a single device I own (I have quite a bit) that takes 3hrs to charge. That's ludicrous, and I'm pretty sure we can safely bet that this will go through quite a few revisions. But it seems battery tech is still at a stand still or the food shit is too expensive.
A portable charger doesn't excuse this imo. If they intended the device to be mobile then this should have at least been addressed.
Succiently outlines the problem for me.
Less than great battery life is definitely expected. I'll give you that. I'm not mad about the battery life.
What is indefensible is using USB 2.0 standards with USB-C. It's not a cost saving measure. The price different between the components, even when produced on a mass scale, is negligible. The difference between them however is massive. using a USB 2.0 means slower read/write speeds (in case we actually get external HDDs) and, most importantly, no quick charge. Quick charge means you could charge this thing from 0-70 in about 10 minutes.
No one on this forum was expecting the charge time to be longer than the play time and I can guarantee that no one was expecting the possibility of battery drain while charging.
They don't need USBC for quick charge, that is available in a standard USB connection. It's funny that the only 2016 tech on the entire device is the one thing that is completely unnecessary.
SirMossyBloke
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oh for god sakes.. so much hyperbole in here..
It uses USB-C get a bettery pack. it's what i did for my Wii U game pad and what i have for my 3DS i never run out of power.
So your answer is to just spend more money? Same answer people were giving about the 32Gb of storage.
Maximus.
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Yes, this is the first time this is a problem. Not a problem with some smartphones and tablets...
The battery life makes sense when comparing to other tablets while gaming.
Palette Swap
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As long as you can also charge your phone at the same time to not lose party chat.oh for god sakes.. so much hyperbole in here..
It uses USB-C get a bettery pack. it's what i did for my Wii U game pad and what i have for my 3DS i never run out of power.
It's not a comparison. Some guys in the thread make it sound like it is unacceptable at all that the charging time is longer than usage time.
It's not a shit battery. It's one of the better batteries for a device this size. People don't seem to understand that battery tech has not evolved much over the last ten or so years. We are still using lithium ion and you can only do so much with that. Companies are currently throwing around crazy money trying to come up with something better and generally they have failed to do so.
Sorry guys but this is the best that can be done for the price. Troll all you want but that sadly that's just a fact.
John Kowalski
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TheSpoiler
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oh for god sakes.. so much hyperbole in here..
It uses USB-C get a bettery pack. it's what i did for my Wii U game pad and what i have for my 3DS i never run out of power.
I like how the responses to Nintendo's fuckups are literally "JUST BUY THIS EXTRA THING" like it somehow fixes the inherent problems with the system.
Katzenjammer
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Gawd people need to calm down with these threads. Think about it, this is Nintendo's next home console. You'll be able to play their big franchise main entries on the go, in HD, and the whole thing is about the size of a WiiU controller. It's really a marvel, both technologically and industrial design wise.
It's not being touted as a handheld, and it will probably charge when you come home and put it in the dock anyway. It's a home console with mobile capabilities and it will do its job just fine for most people and use cases. Some posters here seem to have really unreasonable expectations on what they have built, try to be realistic please.
It's not being touted as a handheld, and it will probably charge when you come home and put it in the dock anyway. It's a home console with mobile capabilities and it will do its job just fine for most people and use cases. Some posters here seem to have really unreasonable expectations on what they have built, try to be realistic please.