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Nintendo Switch HD Rumble
- Thread starter wild wild rice
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Saint Gregory
Member
Yeah, I agree. I never noticed what a difference the haptic triggers on the XB1 made until they randomly stopped working during an Overwatch play session. It's one of the better additions to modern controls this gen so I'm going to keep an open mind on this.
I don't get these kind of posts, the two screens and motion plus were used in a lot more than just two games.
Zalusithix
Member
Yeah, it's almost guaranteed to be a LRA haptic device and not the traditional controller ERM type. Although it could be a mix of the two to widen the range of sensations, I doubt they have the space in those small controllers to do so.
Edit: Actually the Vive/Steam controllers are piezo linear actuators. Still linear, but non-resonant.
dickroach
Member
nah, they'll use it in like 3 games. same as the gamepad.
I used to think the exact same way, i.e. why hasn't rumble evolved since the PS1. After using numerous Galaxy phones and using (not owning) both an Apple Watch 2 and an iPhone 7 -- two devices that reportedly have the best haptic technology -- I can say that "HD" rumble is short-term cool that is the very definition of a gimmick.
The reason why it's not a bigger deal is that the strong and violent actions the feedback is (typically) mapped too are never conveyed in as strong and violent enough of a way through the "HD" rumble. In other words, the rumble is specific but it lacks intensity. It's like typing on a mechanical keyboard vs typing on a virtual keyboard; the latter can be just as specific and fast, but it never feels as tactile and intense as the former. "HD" rumble ultimately ends up feeling more like a hum than a bellow under your hands and fingers.
ffejeromdiks
Banned
There's no way these things vibrate with the screen attached right? I have to imagine that would be annoying with a screen there.
It sounds cool, but who knows. I'll wait to see what Giant Bomb say later after their Milk experience...
I imagine it will still have basic rumble like the Wii U gamepad at the very least.
I imagine it will still have basic rumble like the Wii U gamepad at the very least.
I imagine it will be like the Taptic Engine in the iPhone 7.
This and the gyroscope precision are leagues ahead of what I've experienced before. But especially the rumble.
It's in both controllers.
It's in both controllers.
Zombegoast
Member
Using Checkerboard, downscale when there is too much rumble in the scene.
Always up for more permutations in how rumble is optimized for games. Outside of Xbone triggers, its use hasn't been upgraded for a long while. Could really benefit gameplay greatly by tapping into other senses beyond visual cues for certain mechanics.
That's probably why the game they introduced it with was 1 2 Switch, which uses the feel more than the screen it seems.
I'd imagine that it will be able to use haptics for touchscreen tablet use in a big way.
Go on...
FunkyDealer
Banned
There's three icecubes in each joy-con, right?
Switch is six 'cubes ducttaped together confirmed!
Switch is six 'cubes ducttaped together confirmed!
ThatStupidLion
Member
great. now i can tell how many ice cubes are in my glass of Lon Lon milk.
very little impact overall imo, to have spent so much time on it in the BIG presentation for nintendo.
so what does it do other than just rumble at different frequencies and amplitudes?
very little impact overall imo, to have spent so much time on it in the BIG presentation for nintendo.
so what does it do other than just rumble at different frequencies and amplitudes?
timetokill
Banned
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qadzCB3CLlI&feature=youtu.be
They were just doing the milking here, fucking amazingly hilarious
There is amazing gif potential
They were just doing the milking here, fucking amazingly hilarious
There is amazing gif potential
AcademicSaucer
Member
Didnt the Senran Kagura dev said he was excited about it?
ZombiePlatypus
Member
I think it's awesome.
Cannot wait to feel how games use it. About time someone improved rumble/feedback tech.
Cannot wait to feel how games use it. About time someone improved rumble/feedback tech.
wild wild rice
Member
Nice! I'm hoping it's a cool feature.
People are too quick to write off things that aren't revelatory, for whatever reason. Small things that enhance the experience are nice to have.
They've probably switched to a linear actuator like the one found in newer iphones, instead of the traditional weighted piece of metal on a little motor.
This type of vibrator has a much better "stop" to the vibration, meaning its either vibrating or it isn't. With traditional vibration motors, they spin when they receive electric current, but when the current stops, you have to just kinda wait for the little motor to stop spinning, so the vibration sort of fades out. Having control over the "stop" of the vibration allows you to create very specific patterns that can mimic ice in a glass, if that makes sense.
This type of vibrator has a much better "stop" to the vibration, meaning its either vibrating or it isn't. With traditional vibration motors, they spin when they receive electric current, but when the current stops, you have to just kinda wait for the little motor to stop spinning, so the vibration sort of fades out. Having control over the "stop" of the vibration allows you to create very specific patterns that can mimic ice in a glass, if that makes sense.
IrishNinja
Member
i really am curious to see what's done with it, yeah
everyone's pointing out the ice cube example, but the "GAMECUBE HAD A HANDLE" thing gets glossed over somehow
real talk, Suda made some of the best use of the wiimote that entire gen
everyone's pointing out the ice cube example, but the "GAMECUBE HAD A HANDLE" thing gets glossed over somehow
real talk, Suda made some of the best use of the wiimote that entire gen
Seriously.
All impression are extremely positive, to the point they just don't explain anything
it's literally "amazing" "incredible" " speechless".wild wild rice
Member
Imagine a new Eternal Darkness where with this they could make it feel like bugs are walking inside of the controller or your characters hands starts to act weird or blood flowing through them.
Why did I do this to myself?
Keep an eye on Retro Studios...
...nahh.
PS3 dualshock was supposed to have HD rumble, it was bleh.
Vive controllers really impressed me with the bow and arrow minigame -- really felt like the arrow shaft was sliding against the bow.
So I think HD rumble is possible now, but those joycons are pretty small so it's hard to know how good it can be but I guess we'll see.
Vive controllers really impressed me with the bow and arrow minigame -- really felt like the arrow shaft was sliding against the bow.
So I think HD rumble is possible now, but those joycons are pretty small so it's hard to know how good it can be but I guess we'll see.
Soapbox Killer
Grand Nagus
They seem to be a gateway drug to VR. I would think with this kind of tech, and the price it cost that it would seem suitable for future VR/AR expansion.
Dark Cloud
Member
Nice
wild wild rice
Member
Pretty wild.
breadtruck
Member
As interesting as it sounds, I would likely turn the rumble off first-thing, just like I do in every other game since ever.
Less gimmick, more game please.
Less gimmick, more game please.
Knuckle Sandwich
Member
It sounds cool but I don't see it being put to use.
I think I said the same about the Wii U gamepad when that was announced.
I think I said the same about the Wii U gamepad when that was announced.
tali'zorah84
Member
If this is as good as people are saying then demonstrations on TV shows are going to have a positive effect. People's reactions to this and how well the controls work are going to make Nintendo very happy.
I'm kind of really excited about this, tbqh.
Feeling a sword sliding out of its sheath, then clanking against an enemy's armor sounds like a really immersive feature.