How would your fan theory work?
Shouldn't her boss be dead for years? It would make more sense if they used the hand of Peter Walken, as he was already being delimbed shortly before the game starts.
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Resident Evil 7 Spoiler Thread
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How would your fan theory work?
Huh... I'm on my third playthrough and I always pick up the hand before going up to the attic. Never really thought about it, but I guess you can just run past it, lol. It's rather odd that Ethan doesn't bleed out if he leaves his hand behind, but he can die within seconds if Jack severes his foot and fails to reattach it and apply first aid meds in time.
The later part of this game really feels like Bioshock in the way the story beats and reveals are handled and presented to the player. I especially like the flashback where you see Jack in his short moment of sanity. Very effective to show that at the end, instead of at the beginning.
I agree. The Jack moment really makes you go "Damn... these poor folks got screwed over real bad." It really solidifies your desire to take down Eveline. Get that little bitch!
I find the maps pointless didnt even use them once.
Lee Chaolan
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So this game confirms Alyssa survived Resident Evil Outbreak?
ArkkAngel007
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Umbrella arrives due to Mia's codex pinging them when the D-Series specimens were acquired. Whether Umbrella wasn't the actual party on scene with Lucas (why would Lucas run from them if they were collaborating?) or Ethan acquiring these specimens signified an extreme shift in the situation that they needed to act on, that was the catalyst.
What doesn't make sense?
Zoe is infected and part of the family. She resists like Mia, but part of that may be due to her being a low priority to Eveline. Eveline is more concentrated on having a mommy and daddy than a sissy given her nature, a role that was already filled by Mia until Ethan could arrive so they could supplant Jack and Marguerite. This allows Zoe some bit of freedom.
Now, most of the story supports that Eveline wants Ethan to be Daddy [see next quote answer]. Being newly infected while unconscious likely, Ethan's cells hadn't been fully converted to regrow a limb, and having the hand sutured on would be less of a shock then the eventual regrowth.
Thus Zoe is allowed to reattach the hand as she assists in securing Ethan.
Now, the big question is why Zoe was allowed to or was able to get away with attaching Mia's codex to Ethan? Even if Eveline didn't understand fully what it was, she would know enough to not have that permitted.
Yet, Ethan is able to freely inject her while under overwhelming hallucinations.
Speaking of, here's a problem: why keep Ethan alive when at the point of Mia taking off his hand, Eveline wanted him dead (despite Eveline wanting him to be there in the first place?). Ethan didn't say anything against Eveline or had beeno offered into the family yet, so why have him killed?
The first time I viewed the ending it went past me since it's like ok, they are showing Evie was controlling Mia and this is what she was saying to her. Yet, additional playthrough show that it's quite disjointed from the rest of the game.
Everything done in the narrative with Eveline is terrible. Her character is all over the place in portrayal, the story beats don't add up, and the conclusion is underwhelming.
Langdon Alger
Banned
Finally finished it. Awesome game. I'd pay $6000 for a mod that made you run faster though (even though that would ruin the combat.)
RecRoulette
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I never picked up the hand so I just assumed it was the guy's hand from the ship. Damn lol
Not sure why. It doesn't make any sense.
Yes. The same poor folks that played dumb when their monster of a son toyed with other kids in the house they had already filled with puzzle rooms, traps and prison cells.
The Bakers were in no way innocent. If anyone was sane in this family, it was Zoe.
Don't take the whole "they were quiet, not backwards" quote too seriously. Too many horror families look quiet until someone finds the corpses in their cellar.
Until you figure out Lucas was a murderous psychopath before all this happened and it was shady the bakers had something like a dungeon built years ago.
Yeah, good points. I figured all the shady shit started after Eveline came into the picture, but you're both right about the dungeons and other twisted shit that was already present on the property. Guess they got what was coming to them after all. Now I won't feel bad about butchering them up on future playthroughs.
Stallion Dan
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If it not explained in the DLC don't expect another game entirely to explain it unless Ethen and Mia star again.
Do you love mia or hate mia?
If you hate her and want her to die chose zoe.
If you love her pick mia. Romantic ending.
To be honest i think the story is vague because that way capcom can deliver a story with 8,9 etc. Thats how it went with the first series.
Wanted to see if anyone else has experienced this
Heading towards the Jack/Chainsaw fight, I noticed something very bizarre(only noticed this on my latest play through). When you use the Dissection Room Key on that door in the boiler room and go through, there are metal shelves directly in front of you(before you turn left to go down the stairs). Something caught my eye, so I walked over to the shelf. I shit you not the Red Dog Head was sitting on the shelf. I stood there and stared at it. I even blinked a few times to make sure I wasnt losing my mind. It was there, along with the item description and the X indicator to pick it up. I thought Huh, okay. Maybe this is a fake or a glitch of sorts? I didnt pick it up and, instead, made my way to where the head normally is(above the pit where you fight Jack) and it was there as well. I turned around and went back to the shelf and the head was gone. Im not crazy. I saw it with my own eyes. Has anyone else experienced this?
Heading towards the Jack/Chainsaw fight, I noticed something very bizarre(only noticed this on my latest play through). When you use the Dissection Room Key on that door in the boiler room and go through, there are metal shelves directly in front of you(before you turn left to go down the stairs). Something caught my eye, so I walked over to the shelf. I shit you not the Red Dog Head was sitting on the shelf. I stood there and stared at it. I even blinked a few times to make sure I wasnt losing my mind. It was there, along with the item description and the X indicator to pick it up. I thought Huh, okay. Maybe this is a fake or a glitch of sorts? I didnt pick it up and, instead, made my way to where the head normally is(above the pit where you fight Jack) and it was there as well. I turned around and went back to the shelf and the head was gone. Im not crazy. I saw it with my own eyes. Has anyone else experienced this?
Uh. The game triggers a cutscene if you try to pick it up from the shelf.
If you try to pick it up Jack will pick it up from the other side and he has monologue.
So, I'm not crazy. Why did I never notice it before? It just stuck out like a sore thumb on this play through, but not the others. I'm assuming Jack snatches it from the shelf before Ethan can grab it?
Ah, well there it is. So weird I've never noticed the head on the shelf until now. Thanks!
Yeah, good points. I figured all the shady shit started after Eveline came into the picture, but you're both right about the dungeons and other twisted shit that was already present on the property. Guess they got what was coming to them after all. Now I won't feel bad about butchering them up on future playthroughs.
I still see them as tragic villains. I think it's clear that that's what Capcom intended with the final scene and the "communion", of course. I guess Lucas was a special case, but I still feel pretty bad for the parents and Zoe. They were human enough to take in a lost/stranded child in the bayou, so they can't be that bad imo.
I still see them as tragic villains. I think it's clear that that's what Capcom intended with the final scene and the "communion", of course. I guess Lucas was a special case, but I still feel pretty bad for the parents and Zoe. They were human enough to take in a lost/stranded child in the bayou, so they can't be that bad imo.
Looking at the family as tragic villians is a good way to look at it. Of the 4, I certainly felt the worst for Zoe. Lucas is a demented asshole and the parents... well, I dunno. It's clear they're shady as hell, but that damn flashback Ethan has really makes you feel bad for them. I dunno. I feel conflicted over all.
ffejeromdiks
Banned
Funny you say that....there's actually "running shoes" that you can unlock in the game that make you move faster. Gotta beat the game in under 4 hours but I'd say that's an easier sell than forking out $6000 ;P
Beating the game in under 4 hours gets you the Circular Saw and the X-ray Glasses. I believe you have to destroy all the Mr. Everywheres to obtain the Running Shoes. Even then, I think they only make you walk faster. Running speed doesn't increase.
They are walking shoes, they increase your speed while walking and crouching, they do nothing to your run speed.
Yeah it definitely sounds like he was going to be enemy or something later but no.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
There was definitely cut content. I need to find the pic, but there was a picture that surfaced around November of the Capcom office with a bunch of concept art pinned on the wall. There was some interesting stuff there, not the least of which was some storyboard scenes, and various concept art of some characters who never came to be and beta versions of those that were in the game (like now with context, it seems that Eveline was originally supposed to be a young boy, but they changed her to a girl it seems, most of her early concept art was of some blonde hair kid). The Bakers were also supposed to be a dog, but the dog is absent BUT you can still see it in the Happy Birthday Tape picture you see the symbols on.
If I remember where to find it, I'll tell you guys.
If I remember where to find it, I'll tell you guys.
Granted, the end result(hiding the Snake Key in his neck stump) was spectacularly gruesome and shocking.
Grinchy
Banned
That's true, and it created a lot of tension in that moment because you're sitting there expecting him to start wrecking you at any moment.
Yep. I was waiting on his body to jump up and attack me at any second.
ArkkAngel007
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While a bit of a reach, many of the suspicious rooms on the Plantation may have predated the Bakers. Could be slave related, though after RE5 I can understand why they wouldn't want to state so. The only questionable room overall in that regard is the Detention Room.
The shopping list, unless there's a date on it saying otherwise, was done after Eveline's arrival. Same with Marguerite's lab imaging and results. Hosts don't seem to become homicidal maniacs immediately, but the influences can still compell them to certain things.
The shopping list, unless there's a date on it saying otherwise, was done after Eveline's arrival. Same with Marguerite's lab imaging and results. Hosts don't seem to become homicidal maniacs immediately, but the influences can still compell them to certain things.
ArkkAngel007
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Idk if that would work. Raccoon worked due to the outbreak having already spread well beyond the Umbrella facilities they originated from.
Here, it seems things were already quite isolated with no indication of having affected Dulvey residents (victims were largely travelers, so it seems the Bakers were being quite careful).
There was also the clean up op by Umbrella who purged the grounds, and likely did the same to the ship and whatever remained of the mines.
It will all depend if Moulded and the other forms of fungal infection remain functional once Eveline is killed. Overall I'd like to explore Dulvey, as even in the credits there seemed to be some hints at exploring places like a church.
No name is given, and they weren't on the list as Clancy (L for Loser, guess we know who wrote that note) was the last, and the player in BH arrives between the Sewer Gator and Ethan.
I feel like an idiot, because I've played BH and the game through once each, and can't follow half of what you're saying, lol.
Who's Clancy again? One of the three dudes making the doc at the start? The camera man?
And what's the Sewer Gator?
giancarlo123x
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Clancy is the camera man, and I think that is the name of their TV show.
Fancy Clown
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The bugs are a pain in the ass on madhouse lol. Managing burner fuel has become a lot more stressful. Despite its small scale and simple level design, I think the old house is really well designed. It makes very effective use of its limited space, and it's loop like structure makes playing hide and seek with marguerite a lot of fun. With the tougher bugs and added molded in madhouse you actually gotta do a bit of route consideration even, which is one of my favorite things about the classic RE games. Huge nerd for route planning here.
ArkkAngel007
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Correct on both. Clancy is the camera man in BH, who is also who you play in the Happy Birthday tape and the Banned Footage Bedroom tape.
Sewer Gators was the show that was being shot in the Derelict House tape.
If only the game had an actual sewer gator. REmake2 better not fail on this.
Yeah, it nearly breaks the game. The Fat Moulded and multiple enemies are the only counters to it that don't happen often enough.
Fancy Clown
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The Albert is pretty damn OP already so I'm glad I don't have the circular saw yet as I'd probably be too tempted not to use it.
How About No
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Fancy Clown
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But the receipt is from the 90's!
How About No
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Fancy Clown
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lol you are correct. Yeah, maybe he has a company in his name that specializes in goofy hidden passage ways and puzzles for wealthy estate owners.
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