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First look at Final Fantasy XVs avatar creation system, will be used in multiplayer
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Scrooge McDuck
Member
Ow, no female character in the main party is one thing. But to have a character creator exclusively for multiplayer and not have female option? They wouldn't go that far, right?
Zomba13
Member
It can work though, but only when there is a fair amount of player choice in the creation. Like, Shepard in Mass Effect. It worked there because Shepard was a surname and you were a military guy/girl so it was all rank and surname to talk to you and they took into account you characters background, build and actions to make my Shepard feel different to your Shepard while still fitting into the story and having development and relationships with the various party members and NPCs.
Though I don't expect SE to actually accomplish that though, but a create-a-character can work in an large scale RPG.
SoraanTribal
Member
I prefer already created characters, but if they do this... please at least let the main character talk and have an active role in the story... No Xenoblade X or MMO BS where he's mute the entire time.
DangerMouse
Member
^
Yeah.
Yeah it's relatively okay in ME due to that, and I'm looking forward to the Andromeda, but it's still not my preference.
Yeah.
Yeah it's relatively okay in ME due to that, and I'm looking forward to the Andromeda, but it's still not my preference.
ScriptedReality
Member
You def aint the only one lol.
SoraanTribal
Member
Mass Effect worked out okay with a created character only because I still felt like he was active in the story (and talked a lot). Same for Dragon Age Inquisition. If it's done like that, I'm okay with a custom character, but honestly, I would still prefer one designed by the developers.
fvng
Member
this is so fucking awful, the pandering to western expectations and tastes are coming at the cost at destroying FF's identity. Genuinely bummed about this grab for Elder Scrolls fans, and GTA fans who think it would have made sense to drive the regalia off the cliff and crash the cars into NPCs. Tabata, you're great man but learn to filter out the garbage requests from western gamers, not all feedback is gold
texhnolyze
Banned
Multiplayer will be a completely separate 'game' from the single player mode. As long as it stays that way, which seems like it, I'd be fine with it.
Just look at GTA V. There are people who'd finish the story multiple times yet never touch the Online. While there are also people who do the exact opposite.
Or you could just play XIV. Or XI.
I love character creators in WRPGs. The fact that I just can't click with Geralt holds me back from playing what so many consider to be one of the best games ever in Witcher 3..
Even so, definitely don't know if I want one in a single player FF. Outside of JRPGs that are structurally more like WRPGs (Dragon's Dogma) the only ones I can think of that tried to incorporate a player-made character into the story are White Knight Chronicles and Xenoblade Chronicles X...
...I don't think it turned out great for either, did it?
This isn't going to impact XV much, but if they did it for XVI, how? Have the main character be player-created, and go for a choice-driven but much more abbreviated story than most people want from FF? Or shoehorn a silent player-made character into a story-heavy game who stands around not doing anything in the cutscenes?
Even so, definitely don't know if I want one in a single player FF. Outside of JRPGs that are structurally more like WRPGs (Dragon's Dogma) the only ones I can think of that tried to incorporate a player-made character into the story are White Knight Chronicles and Xenoblade Chronicles X...
...I don't think it turned out great for either, did it?
This isn't going to impact XV much, but if they did it for XVI, how? Have the main character be player-created, and go for a choice-driven but much more abbreviated story than most people want from FF? Or shoehorn a silent player-made character into a story-heavy game who stands around not doing anything in the cutscenes?
AlexFlame116
Member
Or just play this and not pay for the subscription. I'm saying this as a guy who plays XIV and loves it.
And not all feedback is trash. But that depends on the opinion of the person.
PS+ is a subscription, on top of the season pass fee.
FrostuTheNinja
Member
This.
Regardless, I'm looking forward to this update. Hope you can use them in a single player mode to cruise around, do hunts and quests.
adversarial
Member
Yes, please.
I know you like XIV a lot, and I can see why and respect it, but I enjoy the world of XV a lot, and I wouldn't mind to spend more time with it.
EDIT:
But maybe not through stuff like the Chocobo Festival :S
"Feedback" hurt this game a lot. Collecting every scrap of it, releasing multiple demos, the monthly live streams; They couldn't have been more transparent in their lack of vision.
When your hurting for creativity and a vision that you want to stick to and only move so far away from, feedback does more to harm than help I think. Because the vast majority of the audience isn't people that understand game design, production, or the feasibility of their requests. That's how we end up with post-launch multiplayer modes, character creators, and people seriously suggesting they should try to convert this into an ongoing online service.
DangerMouse
Member
Yeah that's it (Didn't play Inquisition though). Completely agree though, I much prefer playing as a designed character by the devs/writers.
AlexFlame116
Member
Even worse then. I already pay for PS Plus. I don't want to pay more monthly. I have to pay Plus for online. That's why I'm okay with ESO. But that's off topic.
Fair enough. I'll just agree to disagree since either way if they didn't take feedback. We would most likely be having the same conversation right now.
Again, just because you don't agree with it, doesn't mean it's the epitome of bad. I didn't ask for multiplayer. It never crossed my mind. But it's here and I'm going to go for it. I'm sorry you don't agree but I can understand a bit about what you're feeling at least.
Either way I'm playing it. If I can deal with tower defense in AC: Revelations and guiding Tricky during Star Fox Adventures then I can handle some multiplayer elements.
I'm not gonna moan about what could have been. It's happened.
fvng
Member
You're literally repeating what I just said. I'm saying to filter out the trash, that obviously means not all of it would be trash.
What matters is the vision of the artists behind the game, not focus group tested to shit game development. This constant need to have their hand held by fans is what bugged me about mega man legends 3 RIP
LordKasual
Banned
Sick.
BTW, people keep bringing up WoR for this campaign, but we're forgetting that Cor Leonis leaves pretty early in the game and never stops fighting Nifelhiem while you're doing your own thing.
Im sure Episode Gladio is going to touch on this as well. The trailer for that already featured magitek enemies and locations that were not accessible in the game.
So yeah, there are plenty of places where a created Kingsglaive/Crownsguard character is a very plasuable thing.
And i'm sure making a female character is pretty much a given. There is no shortage of women Hunters littered around Eos.
BTW, people keep bringing up WoR for this campaign, but we're forgetting that Cor Leonis leaves pretty early in the game and never stops fighting Nifelhiem while you're doing your own thing.
Im sure Episode Gladio is going to touch on this as well. The trailer for that already featured magitek enemies and locations that were not accessible in the game.
So yeah, there are plenty of places where a created Kingsglaive/Crownsguard character is a very plasuable thing.
And i'm sure making a female character is pretty much a given. There is no shortage of women Hunters littered around Eos.
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
Square makes bad buisness decisions but they know Final Fantasy's characters have a lot of marketability behind them. Look how much mileage they managed to drag from Lightning, one of the worst main characters in the series. Now look at stuff like Dissidia and Theatryhthm which is all about characters in that series. That's not to say they can't do it but it would risk alienating their core fanbase mostly in it for the story and characters and major merchandise money in getting Bethesda's audience?
Fair enough! I hope you enjoy if it comes to fruition, I just think it's too little too late. I think all of these updates will be. They should be putting their all into FFXVI.
I thought of this, too. They can still do merchandising no issue, they just need to make a cast (really a game in general) that gets people to want it.
More really strong, recognizable leads is always a good thing and you don't get to introduce one all the time. So really it's a question of whether or not they're willing to sacrifice that opportunity. Maybe they can come up with a stock design that's actually popular enough that they can have their cake and eat it, too. That's worked pretty well for the last couple of Fire Emblem games.
HammerFace
Banned
This add-on to the game (not the main game mind you, a dlc add-on) is destroying FF's identity? A series that has 2 MMOs as mainline games, both of which have character creation in them. But somehow this dlc specifically is what is destroying FF's identity.
Your post reads like a joke post but I know its not. Also jeez is that thing about GTA and ESO players based off of experience because otherwise it seems like you have a very very condescending view of people playing western style games.
And this dlc was planned before the game came out, months before that so I doubt it's solely because of the western gamers and their "garbage requests".
killatopak
Gold Member
WTF
disappeared
Banned
Character creation looks cool. Finally a way to make FF-stylized characters in full 3d.
AlexFlame116
Member
Why create her when she's going to be a playable character right? Come on you know Square would do that.
AlexFlame116
Member
Why create her when she's going to be a playable character right? Come on you know Square would do that.
Arguing with fvng is like trying to go through a wall.
He just won't budge!
He likes NieR though so he's pretty swell.
Well, when he's not out for my blood at least.
Dark_castle
Junior Member
Swap position with XIV.
Zurick
Banned
THIS HAS ME LAUGHING FOR SOME REASON
Frozenprince
Banned
Yep
AlexFlame116
Member
I can already imagine all the harem party members that some players will have. That is if we are able to create our own party of four.
Callibretto
Member
I wonder if we can make these characters, lol
HammerFace
Banned
I wonder if we can make these characters, lol
why do they all have red soles?
I... don't like the sound of that.
Don't understand the outrage about it the slightest. While I don't exactly have a lot of confidence in the longevity of their multiplayer component, I gotta say them implementing an Avatar system for it is relatively low on my list offenses that'd make me all caps salty and question what the hell Square is doing.
I just think it's neat to be honest, not sure why it's in there but at the same time it also doesn't really bother me that it's going to be in.
I just think it's neat to be honest, not sure why it's in there but at the same time it also doesn't really bother me that it's going to be in.
I'm more curious as to why they are doing this.
I feel like Square has other ideas in store. Could they be trying to attempt at a Destiny like game building off of Final Fantasy XV?
Or is this character crew to in just randomly thrown in because they had the assets to do it and thought it might be fun?
Or was it beneficial to make one so making NPC's would become easier?
I feel like Square has other ideas in store. Could they be trying to attempt at a Destiny like game building off of Final Fantasy XV?
Or is this character crew to in just randomly thrown in because they had the assets to do it and thought it might be fun?
Or was it beneficial to make one so making NPC's would become easier?
MetalliCabombination
Member
I dont mind it since this all but guarantees the glorious class based system that they never implement in sp mainline games, well not since 5
I'm more concerned about what might happen narrative wise if we are given (almost) complete control over the character.
Callibretto
Member
could probably work like FF 11 and FF 14 story, which from people who played those games, are said to be some of the best story in FF games.
I've only played a bit of FF14, the narrative focus is on the world building, the various culture of the people who lived in that world. there's also some mystery about a bad guy so you're journeying all over the world trying to solve the mystery. there's really no reason why that kind story won't work in single player game btw. I played FF14 solo mostly