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The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - Preview Thread
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so dungeon number is still a secret to everyone... I'm ok with that
There was swimming in the first e3 trailer if I remember correctly.
Yes, remember something like it too.
I just saw a reaction compilation from people watching the zelda switch reveal trailer from Jan. Allot of people cried about it. It's insane that a game trailer can do that to people. But the trailer is damn good
What?
I'm only going to make my own opinion. I was replying to someone else (who I think hasn't played it?) who said the game was something entirely new//revolutionary and -- and I was just curious what's so new and revolutionary? And as yet no one can answer outside of vague statements about emergent gameplay -- Which are things many games have been doing for years.
..And that's fine. I don't need the game to be revolutionary. "Well made game" and "first Zelda game to actually not shove my nose in what it wants me to be doing" are more than enough for me to be thrilled. I'm not the one who claimed it was revolutionary.
lol i just answered you that, but you seems to just ignore it. Btw those who saying this clearly didn't followed the treehouse and e3.
No worry, the links I shared are for everyone who wanted to know more about the features
There're so much that it's difficult to resume them simply.
So sharing infos is important
You said it has weather, dynamic systems, simmy stuff-- That's all great, but I'm not sure what's new. Someone else claimed the game is doing something completely new, so I asked what was new and so far haven't been told.
I'm not trying to bash the game. I think it looks great -- And while I'm super excited to play it and somewhat caught up in the hype myself, and I'll be playing it on the 3rd -- I'm not willing to believe it's some kind of revolution until I do play it. Nintendo has earned a skeptical eye from me.
So yeah, it looks cool -- I'm just a little flabbergasted by some of the hyperbole and declarative statements that are flying here, particularly from people who haven't played it yet.
robertsan21
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Show me a true open world game that does What Zelda does? I have not played an open world game that offers stuff this one yet. And I been gaming since NES!
PRjumpman124
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If this is true and as bad as described then my hype for the game is lost. I don't want to play with 'Blighttown levels' of framerate; the least Nintendo could've done for sending off the Wii U was release a good game that can run properly on it... which was originally developed for it to boot. I sincerely hope I'm blowing this out of proportion but it seems like one last middle finger to Wii U owners.Apparently the Edge review says the framerate can get even worse in the WiiU version... Getting even to the "tens"
For some reason I though this game would be smoother on the WiiU, since it was originally developed for, but Nintendo probably decided to push the Switch to the detriment of the WiiU.
Is just one outlet, will wait for other, but it's not a good sign
I'd try to show you that but I'm not sure what BOTW does. Any time I ask the various people here who haven't played the game what it's doing that's an entirely novel, new, revolutionary thing I am told about weather, simulation elements like wildlife and setting fires and physics -- All great things, but none are new things.
You know where you are. If you've been here long enough, you know to just ignore that bs.
And the freedom to do anything you want, not only basic linear things.
Listen, if you can't accept that the game is new and groundbreaking. You'll never accept it for any game to be new and fresh. Mario galaxy was new and fresh too, but again you would say: "you mean the gravity of the game" you call those thing simmy. Or splatoon would just be another shooting game where you can shoot paint for you. You probably dislike all game features and you probably can even enjoy a simple game where you can shoot and die, but that are the basics, tip: go watch some treehouse video's where they explain it to you.
Good question, they can do allot so who knows.
Please give an example of a sandbox open world adventure RPG.
The game that comes closest is Far Cry (but Zelda goes much further, because it also sandboxes the exploration). Then explain why Zelda is so similar to Far Cry as to be derivative.
dampflokfreund
Banned
C'mon, you played Ocarina of Time at 17 FPS. Why are the fps such a big deal for everyone? Just enjoy the game. A couple of fps drops won't ruin the experience.
With open world fatigue feeling lately this sounds like an appealing world that encourages to explore naturally and will be enjoyable to get lost in compared to the map filled checklist designed games that have you chasing breadcrumbs and markers constantly. It gives the impression they have prioritised quality of the world and its content over quantity. The world may be huge but from footage I've seen I bet you could navigate using the distinct landmarks.
AcademicSaucer
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Fredrik
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16fps in Europe, still regarded as the best game of all time.
Look, I'm as curious about all the ways you can dick around in the game and all of the emergent gameplay as anyone else. I'm just not going to hyperventilate, declare it GOTY, or say it's a completely new game the likes the world has never seen until I actually play it myself. People are hyped, and it's fun to be hyped, I'm just trying to point out that it may be a bit out of control/premature.
I don't know about groundbreaking, but I just love that all of this stuff is in the mix while also never gating you, or funneling you.
I really think a big part of it is not having to focus on insane visuals. It's a gorgeous game to me on a different level, and I wish more devs would shoot in that direction. Focus on game play and agency, less on strict story beats and making sure you're drip fed content from them and not because you found it on your own.
I really think a big part of it is not having to focus on insane visuals. It's a gorgeous game to me on a different level, and I wish more devs would shoot in that direction. Focus on game play and agency, less on strict story beats and making sure you're drip fed content from them and not because you found it on your own.
flintstryker
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As someone disappointed with how dumbed down most supposedly open games have become compared to those of the past like Ultima 7 based on what I have read this Zelda seems like a return to form
I think there arent many, i can only think of one game (which isnt an RPG) and that is MGSV. The attention to detail is nuts in that game. Zelda seems to take the same approach in an action advanture setting. For me these are true open world games.
For starters....by showing that there is more to the open world formula than having a huge empty world in where you can barely interact with things other than running to the next icon on the huge overworld and watching a cutscene
MiamiWesker
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I would say putting all elements together like this is new. Find me one open world game that allows interaction with basically every element in the game world from weather, climbing, fire, ice, magnets, has crafting, survival elements. Then still has the incredible hand crafted design of dungeons, 100s of puzzles, huge bosses, emergent combat, and so on. No game in history has done that.
Being able to climb nearly everything is kind of grounbreaking to me. There isn't one open world game I can think of that lets you do that out the gate. To escape, to reach places most games would require a tool for, to get a better vantage point, to find secrets earlier than your expect to. That's pretty fucking great.
I've wanted some kind of thief game that was open world and allowed for this for forever in my head.
I've wanted some kind of thief game that was open world and allowed for this for forever in my head.
A lot of people said The Witcher 3 was a massive open world game full of meaningful and engaging content which set that game apart. I'm aware that TW3 doesn't particularly have a lot of simmy type systems that interact with eachother -- it doesn't have that sandbox aspect -- but I guess it's just hard to quantify what makes something "entirely new", which is the point I was originally replying to. Was TW3 a brand new type of game because it did, in the opinion of many people, open world better?
Does doing an old idea but doing it better make it new? Maybe, I dunno, I'll make that determination once I get the chance to play it (and, don't get me wrong, I'm really excited for next Friday! Among my first gaming memories were playing The Legend of Zelda with my older brothers and I would love to have some of that mystery and openness back).
I have no doubt that some people will like the game, some will dislike it, some will adore it. I'm just pointing out that it's a bit silly to be this declarative before playing it. The press is inherently biased because the hype machine plays in their favor.
Blame the people who played it have yet to tell us how average it really is.
But yeah, until we play it ourselves we can't actually give a meaningful opinion on it.
Peter Brown from Gamespot said that at one point he knocked a skull of a skeleton and the skull fell down a cliff and it actually gnawed its way back up to get to its body.
Cuningas de Häme
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Witcher's world is very static in the end.
Skyrim is too, more fluid than Witcher still.
There is almost no games with such complex systems like BotW appears to have.
Nintendo picked parts and bits from other games and just made them better than all the rest. Seemingly, haven't played it yet.
It is groundbreaking in the way it connects the gameplay elements and makes an actual living, breathing world unlike anything you find in the market today.
It's almost like their revolutionary consoles, take technology already in use and use it to make something completely new, bigger than the sum of it's parts.
Skyrim is too, more fluid than Witcher still.
There is almost no games with such complex systems like BotW appears to have.
Nintendo picked parts and bits from other games and just made them better than all the rest. Seemingly, haven't played it yet.
It is groundbreaking in the way it connects the gameplay elements and makes an actual living, breathing world unlike anything you find in the market today.
It's almost like their revolutionary consoles, take technology already in use and use it to make something completely new, bigger than the sum of it's parts.
I think the short and easy explanation is that it's not that it is doing anything new if you break it down to the individual bullet points of things open world games do and more that it seemingly represents a cohesive experience that does all those things well in a way that you really haven't seen in open world games to date.
Though it is indeed the start of a new generation
The problem is that if you're literally just describing Breath of the Wild then yeah, no game has done exactly that. But you can point to a few games that do a lot of the same stuff, and additionally do stuff Breath of the Wild doesn't. You can point to the systemic nature of Far Cry games. You can point to Oblivion, Skyrim, or the modern Fallout games.
The way some people describe Breath of the Wild you'd think that the aforementioned games didn't exist. That isn't to say that Breath of the Wild doesn't do great things, but it didn't invent a lot of these great things - it's just combining them in what seems to be a really effective way, but many good games do that.
yo that fucking edge 10/10
that conclusion
fuck
that's the point though. there isn't a single game that is doing everything breath of the wild is doing. I'm sure there are many games you could point to and say "well this does that one thing that zelda does and this other game does another" but you can't point to a single game that offers this many systems elegantly working in tandem and allows for interaction with every aspect of the open world on this level. you say many games combine things in effective ways, but none have combined everything botw does. I've asked people to point me to a game that does everything botw does, since e3 this past year actually, and I haven't gotten one good answer. that's why this game is being looked at as so revolutionary in previews and reviews.
that conclusion
fuck
that's the point though. there isn't a single game that is doing everything breath of the wild is doing. I'm sure there are many games you could point to and say "well this does that one thing that zelda does and this other game does another" but you can't point to a single game that offers this many systems elegantly working in tandem and allows for interaction with every aspect of the open world on this level. you say many games combine things in effective ways, but none have combined everything botw does. I've asked people to point me to a game that does everything botw does, since e3 this past year actually, and I haven't gotten one good answer. that's why this game is being looked at as so revolutionary in previews and reviews.
Makin' 6 days left feel like 60.
Dark Cloud
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I'm afraid to watch. My ❤️ can't handle anymore.
MosquitoSmasher
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What do they say in their conclusion?
it's better than the GotG OoT
You know what, that's fair to say. Though going off of how excited and cagey the previews and videos, it seems that it may actually have a few tricks up its sleeve that we're all unaware about. That's what I'm most interested in finding out about, as that might be the stuff as no one can dispute as not being "new".
Ocarina may be giving up its crown as the most beloved
gooderthanu
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hype overload. Need more hype gifs