CorporateClown
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[PS4] 376K
[XB1] 281K
[XB1] 281K
639K over 5 weeks in the March 2009 NPD.Can you tell HW 1 no., Thanks!!
Want the estimate only 7K YOY?
639K over 5 weeks in the March 2009 NPD.
Also add a [ to the PS4.
These January estimations are too vague and thus slightly wrong. We have enough info to derive more exact numbers. I ran the parametric, and there are only three possible solutions for January 2017:Code:2017 January Weekly Averages (Calculated from here - http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=230735849&postcount=328 PS4: ~210K / 4 = ~52,500 Xbox One: ~160K / 4 = ~40,000
Thanks for doing that. I only put those estimates as we had a possible range but no exact numbers. Since you did that I'll change that section to include PS4 211K and XB1 157K.These January estimations are too vague and thus slightly wrong. We have enough info to derive more exact numbers. I ran the parametric, and there are only three possible solutions for January 2017:
PS4: 212k
XB1: 157k
PS4: 211k
XB1: 157k
PS4: 211k
XB1: 156k
So I think the best estimate is averaging those:
PS4: 211.3k
XB1: 156.7k
A fun bonus game for next month would be to guess the attach rate for the Switch and BotW
Gonna sound weird, but I'll go 105% or above.My guess is 80%
Other 20% goes either no game or 1-2 Switch.
This.
@FinaruDensetsu:
Not only has Xbox been having deals like that for years, the Xbox One S bump seems to have died down going into January. At this point, Xbox is going to need more than deals like the one you mentioned to top PS4 which is going to have a monster 2017 on the software side of things (plus third-party partnerships starting with Mass Effect).
I think the gap in January being as large as it was (estimated at 157k vs. 222k) suggests that we may be headed back to the normal pre-holiday dominance of the PS4.
The big question going into January NPD was would the Xbox momentum continue to keep them very close to PS4 even if they lose the month (like what happened in November and December). Even though Xbox had its best January ever, 157k is not close to 222k (and again, these are estimates). February NPD will show whether January was an anomaly or whether this is really the case though.
I am curious though, why do you think these deals matter now? What other factors do you think suggest Xbox would've been more compelling to consumers than PS4 for February?
Maybe I'm forgetting but I don't think the Xbone has been at the 199 price with a new pack in game like Halo Wars yet in its life cycle. We always talk about that as the magic price to hit for sales to skyrocket.
As for the PS4s games with the exception of Horizon on the very last day of February, the other exclusives it's had are fairly niche and definitely don't have anywhere the the cache of the Halo name.
Random guess that PS4 takes the month by 60 percent gap or more.
For Zelda attach in march, I'll go with the 85% attach range COD2 got to Xbox 360 in November '05.
Random guess that PS4 takes the month by 60 percent gap or more.
For Zelda attach in march, I'll go with the 85% attach range COD2 got to Xbox 360 in November '05.
Yep, you can edit as many times as you like before the deadline.Just wondering can i edited my original prediction post? asking first since i Don't wanna get disqualify.
Very high attach of Zelda.
Hey all - Sorry for the delay in replying in here.
I don't have a lot of time this morning so I wanted to post something quick. This has been a solid month, though from what I can see across our districts, the PS4 has been a clear winner across the board. It wasn't as tight as with a previous months we've had. How that pans out to the other vendors, I don't know.
If people have specific questions I'll try and post again later with some broader impressions, so if you want to ask, I'll try to answer them then.
Hope those of you who got Switches are happy with them so far. Very high attach of Zelda.
Hey all - Sorry for the delay in replying in here.
I don't have a lot of time this morning so I wanted to post something quick. This has been a solid month, though from what I can see across our districts, the PS4 has been a clear winner across the board. It wasn't as tight as with a previous months we've had. How that pans out to the other vendors, I don't know.
If people have specific questions I'll try and post again later with some broader impressions, so if you want to ask, I'll try to answer them then.
Hope those of you who got Switches are happy with them so far. Very high attach of Zelda.
Now that you mention it, anyone know what is the best first party, new IP opening on PS4?I just want to know your prediction/Thoughts on Horizon Sales , First Day or First Week whatever, will it cross some milestones or not? like Best debut first party new Ip on Ps4 or something.
And Thanks for taking time to reply.
Now that you mention it, anyone know what is the best first party, new IP opening on PS4?
Hey all - Sorry for the delay in replying in here.
I don't have a lot of time this morning so I wanted to post something quick. This has been a solid month, though from what I can see across our districts, the PS4 has been a clear winner across the board. It wasn't as tight as with a previous months we've had. How that pans out to the other vendors, I don't know.
If people have specific questions I'll try and post again later with some broader impressions, so if you want to ask, I'll try to answer them then.
Hope those of you who got Switches are happy with them so far. Very high attach of Zelda.
I just want to know your prediction/Thoughts on Horizon Sales , First Day or First Week whatever, will it cross some milestones or not? like Best debut first party new Ip on Ps4 or something.
And Thanks for taking time to reply.
The only new IP I could think of were Knack and Driveclub.KNACK!!
How could you forget!!I think it is But i am not sure.
[XB1] 360K
[PS4] 290K
In Nov and Dec the Ps4 pro carried the Ps4 overall to victory, more so I'm December than November, the momentum continued and started crashing in Jan from dev and in January the Ps4 was down. The Xbox One continued its increase in sales. It's not just raw numbers too look at here. Which were estimates anyway.
Both consoles had deals and when looking at trends the Xbox One S, which basically is the vast near total majority of xbox one sales now, is the only one showing actual growth increases.
It's more believably that the Xbox One will win Feb, if they don't it will be close and include the ls4 being down and the XO being up once again.
Most tax refunds are not in February either, and we have no way that the Feb tax returns that did occur will be lopsided toward the PS4.
Also another factor to consider for both consoles sales are the people waiting for the switch at the time. Especially February tax recipients. Since the switch launched on the 3rd, that may have shaken February console adoption.
Hey all - Sorry for the delay in replying in here.
I don't have a lot of time this morning so I wanted to post something quick. This has been a solid month, though from what I can see across our districts, the PS4 has been a clear winner across the board. It wasn't as tight as with a previous months we've had. How that pans out to the other vendors, I don't know.
If people have specific questions I'll try and post again later with some broader impressions, so if you want to ask, I'll try to answer them then.
Hope those of you who got Switches are happy with them so far. Very high attach of Zelda.
Hey all - Sorry for the delay in replying in here.
I don't have a lot of time this morning so I wanted to post something quick. This has been a solid month, though from what I can see across our districts, the PS4 has been a clear winner across the board. It wasn't as tight as with a previous months we've had. How that pans out to the other vendors, I don't know.
If people have specific questions I'll try and post again later with some broader impressions, so if you want to ask, I'll try to answer them then.
Hope those of you who got Switches are happy with them so far. Very high attach of Zelda.
[PS4] 357K
[XB1] 287K
I just want to know your prediction/Thoughts on Horizon Sales , First Day or First Week whatever, will it cross some milestones or not? like Best debut first party new Ip on Ps4 or something.
And Thanks for taking time to reply.
Coułd you share more about your districts' situation for Switch and also the non-Zelda launch games, since you already sort of talked about its sales
Cheers Abdiel. I expect Zelda to have an attach rate around 85% on switch when all is said and done. Out of curiosity how much of an increase in interest did you guys see for XB1 and PS4 Slim during their respective limited discount periods? Also how did this year compare to previous years as far as traffic from tax returns is concerned? Nothing specific mind you it's looking for a general idea.
Out of curiosity, can you estimate what the shipped stock of Pro Controllers was to the Switch System (such as 25 controllers per 100 systems). I'm wondering if their lack of availability is due to low stock - similar to the NES Classic Mini?
Also, what do pre-orders look like? Any clear leaders?
Thanks again for your insight!
Horizon has done very, very well. At least a few of my stores completely exhausted their entire launch shipments, and needed to be restocked this week. Our Sony Rep was ecstatic.
Preorders were already significantly higher than previously after the high reception, but then the actual pickup from customers and immediate feedback/word of mouth has been excellent.
Now, mind, it's still a first party exclusive title that isn't the heyday of Halo or GT, with millions of copies ready to fly away... but we're really pleased with how it's doing so far. They sent us plenty of copies at each location, and it's been moving consistently.
Switch metrics...
So, some stores got more than others. All pretty much got cleaned out immediately. We got a bit more on Sunday for the weekend, but it wasn't a significant number per store. The overall inventory I'd say... I was reading the PAL thread, and the numbers talking about the UK seemed a little low by comparison, like maybe it was closer to the XB1 than they were over there? But not significantly so. They didn't have stacks of inventory ready to go.
As to games, 1 2 Switch had some movement from impulse buyers, but I mean, it's a launch mini game collection that hasn't shown off being very compelling to most. Maybe if we get actual demo stations it will be able to speak to folks more easily, but for now it doesn't have much word of mouth, and Bomberman is really expensive for most folks, and really seems like it's not going to do much.
Well the Slim is doing really well for the PS4, though I'm still bemused at how many people expect the Pro to just stop selling. It remains an effective constant, with some really good momentum right now in this season. And after having Horizon on mine right now, I can provide absolute confirmation of how well it works too.
The XB1S is chugging along, but this is just always a rough time of year for the Xbox. It never seems to have any real strength coming into this period. Halo Wars 2 is already an afterthought, and the conversation in most games media is about what is happening NOW for excitement in the Sony and Nintendo camps, but everything is further down the line for the XB1 to see what's in the pipeline beyond the usual multi-plats. This is of course just fine, as for those who are the typical audience for it, the string of releases in Japanese games on the other two consoles are likely not very enticing anyway.
I mean, just in the current 30 day window I have Tales of Berseria, Horizon, Torment, Nier, Mass Effect, Toukiden 2, and then the Kingdom Hearts 1.5+2.5... Most of those games are non-starters for the XB1 audience, and only 2 are multiplat with the console. It creates a very different dynamic of conversation when customers ask about games releases. Mass Effect has a solid lead in preorders on PS4 as well.
I think that it's a weird spot to be in. The discussion becomes more about what are they missing out on, but at the same time, most XB1 owners I talk to in my stores don't care about 80% of the releases on the PS4, so it doesn't motivate change. It keeps from enticing those games from expanding the library and from opening up the audience into considering the console as viable if they're looking for those options.
Um, that's a good series of questions. Pro Controllers were initially kind of hit or miss on orders, but as the joy con stories starting circulating, we got more orders or questions about them... Hard to get an exact ratio. 1 in 4 is probably not a bad guess by comparison though. I'll see if I can get it in closer, it would mean more digging in SKU comparisons, which is harder to do.
Preorders on... Switch Games, I'm assuming? Quite a few for Splatoon 2, lots for Mario, good number for Mario Kart, and a sparse collection for Xenoblade... though I imagine as we get closer and more actually shows up, these will grow and customers will get more confident. We just also have only so many potential buyers. There's probably more people who would be willing to snag at least one of those games but don't have the console yet.