LiquidSolid
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Retail only? There's TLG, Nioh, Helldivers, Bound, RIGS, Here They Lie and PSVR Worlds. A bunch of those are PSVR games though, so were obviously never going to be big sellers.
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Horizon Zero Dawn PS4s biggest ever Sony published new IP launch in the UK
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Retail only? There's TLG, Nioh, Helldivers, Bound, RIGS, Here They Lie and PSVR Worlds. A bunch of those are PSVR games though, so were obviously never going to be big sellers.
LastMinuteHero
Member
K2,3, liberation and mercs exist though
Omnistalgic
Member
Fleshing out the melee combat and adding a co-op Dinosaur Hunter mode should be obvious innovations for the sequel.
texhnolyze
Banned
I think the game would become too easy with co-op. They could opt for a dedicated multiplayer maps for that though, filled with much nastier (corrupted) machines compared to the single-player ones.
make the monster one hit kill.
Vincent Alexander
Member
And also it eats your bag with weapons, so you have to engage with fists. And if you die, your save is deleted. PS4 should probably explode also for good measure.
friskykillface
Banned
RIP killzone
Launch game may be best for that series now cause shadow fall while meh looked pretty good at launch
VanCityGamer
Member
While I recognize that 88 is an excellent score, I actually feel that it's too low for this game (so far). I'm 10 hours in and it's a masterpiece IMO. I'm blown away by how good it is. More inline with what I'd expect to be a 91 or 92 MC. It's my second favorite game of the generation already. The Witcher 3 is #1. This is Sony's best exclusive since The Last of Us and the start of a hit franchise.
you're also unable to download or purchase anything remotely related to entertainment or gaming if you die.
I agree. It's wayy too low but the game is amazing, and a score is a score. The game should sell gang busters and I love this game to tears. WIll be tough for other games to top this one.
VanCityGamer
Member
True that it's just a number, but it does make me sad that it didn't hit 90 on MC. It absolutely should have. And all the big sites gave it 9 or higher (IGN, Gamespot, Polygon, etc.)
I just had the same thought today. I usually rate other games a little bit lower than the MC score, but Horizon is higher for me than 88. The flaws are so minuscule compared to how great everything else the game does.
Callibretto
Member
I'm not sure I want more melee in this. I guess the most I want is more defensive options other than rolling. So maybe a block or parry of you timed it right and you can get a 1 or 2 melee hit. But I'm not sure I want this to be monhun/souls close combat focused game.
What I want is to explore more weapon and trap options. Also more interaction with the world. Like if a robot is on water. A shock bomb or something should electrocute them too unless they're immune to the element. Also skill to allow you make huge trap like the log trap you see in hunting trial. I want to be able to make my own trap like that.
All robot ahould be mountable with ability to give simple command.
Aerial combat by riding stormbird or something similar.
Grappling hook as part of your traversal option instead of just contextually used to drop down from high places.
I would not mind more melee actually is surprisingly ok.
Callibretto
Member
I think part of why the combat in horizon work is because you had to aim which part to attack using which arrow type for max damage. And it work in long range combat because you had to manually aim your attack.
I fear a melee combat wont have the same degree of precision. Enemies will have to be designed around melee combat and I'm not sure if that's going to hinder the long range combat.
miller.skippins
Banned
I hope that more games.....either 1st or 2nd party games will be using the Decima engine from now on...
LastMinuteHero
Member
That's quite a range to take from. So horizon sales are 110k<x<192k?
I haven't finished the game yet but I would like to
see them visit Ban-Ur. Banuk people seem like interesting blokes
texhnolyze
Banned
*shrugs
I just think that overriding machines with more than 1 player wouldn't be that fun, is all. Or maybe they can make it like GTA Online. Same map, but different system with harder machines. Exploring the area would always be thrilling, even though you're in a group of four.
Wait, Monster Hunter games didn't sell millions on Nintendo hardware? Or are you talking about multiplatform?
2 great games at the low end, or are we on that KZ2 doesn't exist train?
I actually completely agree. I'm almost 20 hours in and it's crazy that it's not at least a 90 MC.
Congrats!
I love the way their engine renders "Shadowfall" but because I hate FPS, it wasn't until "Until Dawn" that I could truly appreciate a game made using it.
But "Horizon" goes above and beyond what "Until Dawn" did. I still want "Until Dawn"-esque game using this engine.
I love the way their engine renders "Shadowfall" but because I hate FPS, it wasn't until "Until Dawn" that I could truly appreciate a game made using it.
But "Horizon" goes above and beyond what "Until Dawn" did. I still want "Until Dawn"-esque game using this engine.
visiblemode
Member
Absolutely. Superb game.
Gotta agree with it. Not only am I loving it, but it really seems like something most reviewers would get into much more. 88 is still pretty good and it's probably silly to quibble over what amounts to like 4 points on meta critic, but still. This thing deserves a lot!
What a huge category! Not sure why everyone is declaring this an amazing record. I love the game and am glad to see it doing well but the competition for this record is basically knack and the order.
DriftingSpirit
Member
Considering how much NMS sold, it is noteworthy.
A game selling over 110k in the UK is nice for any game.
Then selling over 110k is the factor. But being the best selling Sony PS4 released game is such a narrow category.
It's like saying Zelda is noteworthy because it's the best selling switch game when there's so many other noteworthy factors.
DriftingSpirit
Member
That doesn't make it any less true though.
scoobs
Member
Its called PR bro, you gotta make it sound even more amazing than it is.
we should make it plain as possible.
Horizon Zero Dawn sells x amount of copies.
The end.
That's my point though. It makes it sound less amazing. I hear best selling PS4 Sony released new IP and I can hardly think of anything with huge sales. It makes me lump it in with Knack, the Order and No mans sky (apparently the previous record holder). You don't want to be the game being compared to no mans sky.
I hear 110k sold first week in the U.K. and I'm impressed.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
It sold pretty well
All its takes is one or two low ones to drop kick it out of 90+.
LightOfTruth
Member
Its a difficult problem for sure. I dont know how to solve it, but there are absolutely instances where melee feels like its a must because of an awkward environment encounter or because there are a lot of enemies ganging up using their own melee. Its even more awkward because the player can only run or roll to create distance, and there is no tool to "vanish" from the dinos to create said distance (such as a smoke bomb).
Its competent, but with clear room for improvement. Im excited to see how they change it for a (hopeful!) sequel, but of course ranged combat should take the priority.
Agreed. I expected the game to be great, but it's surpassed that for sure, and I'm only 6 hours in. When it's all said and done, this'll definitely be up there as one of my favourite games so far this generation, along with Witcher 3, Bloodborne, Until Dawn, Uncharted 4 and Ratchet and Clank. Zelda will probably join it as well.
GFK Chart Track is not a PR firm, so it's not part of their business to give you numbers to make you "impressed". Publicly they release charts and a small spiel on how titles perform relative to each other.
Frag Waffles
Member
I'm simply astounded at this game. I can't believe I'm experiencing this level of finely tuned combat and action oriented gameplay in the most strikingly detailed open world ever created. Just absolutely awe inspiring.
potatohead
Member
Killzone 1 is also awesome especially the remaster on ps3
And I find shadowfall quite good as well every one seems to disagree though
VanCityGamer
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EGOMON
Member
Yeah I was thinking a co-op monster hunting mode would be really cool or something like ME3 Multiplayer
Fully agree - a shame it is 'only' 88. It deserves a lot higher
Lol no, it's not.
wapplew
Member
Yup. It really is a 9 or 9.5/10 game. Underrated
But most outlet gave it 9/9.5 tho. Proper rate I say.
AyraSutoraifu
Member
Was talking with a friend last night and discussed that a co-up with 4 players or even 8 in a valley battle arena with horde mode. Tackle a Thunderjaw or Tallneck or maybe even something bigger together would be awesome.