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[Alchemist]

Deserved. It's a must buy if you own a PS4.

 

[JimmyRustler]

Well deserved. The game is a masterpiece and elevates GG to a top tier developer. No way they can afford to make a mediocre shooter now any more.

 

[noobie]

Lifetime is debatable. Zelda is not as big a franchise as Mario Kart, sales-wise. Horizon with some decent legs can easily reach 6+million. Add bundles and you are comfortably at 8 million. Best selling Zelda game to date did a bit under 8 million.

To the best of my knowledge, GG games, killzone series, have never done more then 3 million with bundles. So expecting HZD to do 6 million without bundles n 8 million with bundles is quite optimistic. Also I think we know Sony USA is not very fond of bundling. So the major market is probably not going to get HZD bundle.

 

[DriftingSpirit]

To the best of my knowledge, GG games, killzone series, have never done more then 3 million with bundles. So expecting HZD to do 6 million without bundles n 8 million with bundles is quite optimistic. Also I think we know Sony USA is not very fond of bundling. So the major market is probably not going to get HZD bundle.

Killzone =/= Horizon.

 

[NotSmartEnough]

I'm happy for Guerrilla; as many others have said it was a risk, but see how well it payed off.

The game's combat, story, music and visuals are individually fantastic, but together they really make this a GOTY contender.

I bought a Pro for this, ME:A and better PSVR and the game looks unbelievable on an HDR UHD TV.

If anyone hasn't already seen them, have a look at the photo threads: some amazing images, many captured on base PS4.

 

[Kill3r7]

To the best of my knowledge, GG games, killzone series, have never done more then 3 million with bundles. So expecting HZD to do 6 million without bundles n 8 million with bundles is quite optimistic. Also I think we know Sony USA is not very fond of bundling. So the major market is probably not going to get HZD bundle.

Horizon has the makings of a game that will sell incredibly well. I would be surprised if HZD does not get a bundle this year, at least a PRO bundle. I say this fully realizing that Sony will at the very least have a Destiny, COD and BF2 bundles this holiday season.

 

[jroc74]

And I havent even played Blood Borne yet...

I have got to get me a new PS4 ASAP. Missing out on some great games.

I am doing my best not looking at any clips or screen shots of Horizon.

 

[Rains]

Game looks fantastic but i have a back log i wish more company would take risk am tired of the same old games getting face lifts

 

[Nocturno999]

So the chances of a new Killzone after Horizon's success are?

 

[Toni]

So the chances of a new Killzone after Horizon's success are?

 

[mckmas8808]

So the chances of a new Killzone after Horizon's success are?

NOPE!

 

[Oneself]

So the chances of a new Killzone after Horizon's success are?

Killzone can rest a while and comeback later as a better game.
Horizon needs a sequel in 2-3 years.

 

[MaKTaiL]

Yeah, Killzone must take a rest now but I want them to wrap up the story in a big way on PS5 at least.

 

[airjoca]

So the chances of a new Killzone after Horizon's success are?

Launch game on PS5, the HL2 of the new generation.

 

[Ammogeddon]

Well deserved, it's awesome.

 

[N.Domixis]

So the chances of a new Killzone after Horizon's success are?

If they want to lose their jobs they will make Killzone.

 

[Certinty]

I wouldn't even mind a new Killzone.

Shadow Fall had great gameplay and looked amazing. Sure everything else sucked, but after this I'm fairly confident they can fix all those issues if they do make another.

 

[dealer-]

Surely they've moved on from Killzone now. Bigger and better things in the offing for Guerrilla.

 

[DriftingSpirit]

Right, they clearly just need time. They can do Killzone right.

 

[sems4arsenal]

IS GG now the best Sony FP studio in terms of talent? have they surpassed Naught Dog?

 

[BlazingDarkness]

They had a straight up several minute gameplay video of Horizon which took up the whole ad break the other night, I've never seen that with an advert before. Strong marketing from Sony for this, looks like it has paid off.

 

[Melkezadek]

So the chances of a new Killzone after Horizon's success are?

I actually do hope they go back to the series with new ideas and direction. The Killzone world is actually really cool. I'd love to see it become a TPS open world game.

 

[Doctor_Thomas]

I wonder if they could take the Killzone world and do something with it in the style of Horizon.

Same way God of War is undergoing a reimagining, imagine a more open world Killzone, all the lessons learned from Horizon but on Vekta or Helghan....

Spoiler

or both?

 

[Goodacre0081]

IS GG now the best Sony FP studio in terms of talent? have they surpassed Naught Dog?

ND has a record of releasing amazing games. GG need to stay at this level for at least two more games before I would consider them on the same level as ND

 

[benny_a]

I wonder if they could take the Killzone world and do something with it in the style of Horizon.

Same way God of War is undergoing a reimagining, imagine a more open world Killzone, all the lessons learned from Horizon but on Vekta or Helghan....

Spoiler

or both?

I'm down for a Splinter Cell or Metal Gear Solid type infiltration game set in the Killzone world.

I just don't want them to do another first person shooter. Make more third person games!

But because this would be practically a new IP anyway because the mechanics would have to be prototyped a lot I'm fine with more Horizon for a bit. It's a strong setting with great gameplay. Gorilla machine next!

 

[Coxy100]

IS GG now the best Sony FP studio in terms of talent? have they surpassed Naught Dog?

Hyperbole mate? They have released 1 great game - naughty dog have done that 3 / 4 times

 

[BigTnaples]

Well deserved.


Absolutley fantastic game GG.

Congrats.

 

[SlimySnake]

Hyperbole mate? They have released 1 great game - naughty dog have done that 3 / 4 times

Killzone 2 and 3 are both great games. This is GG's Uncharted 2. The have reached God tier status with this game.

 

[ArkhamFantasy]

Yeah, its a bit premature to put them on Naughty Dogs level, but at worst they are #2 now.

All of their games have been profitable, they've now built two successful IPs, and they've created maybe the most impressive engine we've ever seen which was hand picked by Super Massive, Cambridge, and Kojima himself.

They're about as safe as you can get in this industry.

 

[sobaka770]

This game is crack. Simply loving walking around and hunting. Up there with Bloodborne as top PS4 exclusives (UC4 is great too, but not really innovative).

I think that we need an expansion or DLC for this. A full blown sequel in a few years, Guerilla can let go of Killzone for a good while.

 

[Roufianos]

Just look it up, Uncharted has 8.7 while Mario Kart has 8.3 (both 2016). So yeah, I was wrong on the numbers.

But my overall point still stands. Even if Switch sales turn out to be not so great, Zelda can still outsell Horizon.

Mario Kart Wii sold 36 million. Twilight Princess sold a quarter of that.

Zelda's not even remotely as popular. No chance it outsells Horizon.

 

[Caode]

Well deserved. The game is a masterpiece and elevates GG to a top tier developer. No way they can afford to make a mediocre shooter now any more.

I'm only about 10 hours in but it's reminding me of Naughty Dog and Uncharted 2 in the sense that this is the step that's elevated Guerrilla Games to that top tier status, just as Uncharted 2 was the breakthrough point for Naughty Dog.

 

[jrDev]

If I didn't pick up switch and Zelda this week I would have 100% picked up Horizon
As it is I'll pick it up later when there is a price drop now

Me too! Game looks well deserved! Reason I bought a PS4, but I have to finish Zelda first...

 

[DriftingSpirit]

Hyperbole mate? They have released 1 great game - naughty dog have done that 3 / 4 times

Killzone 2 was great.

 

[Tohsaka]

Well deserved, game is great.

 

[potatohead]

To the best of my knowledge, GG games, killzone series, have never done more then 3 million with bundles. So expecting HZD to do 6 million without bundles n 8 million with bundles is quite optimistic. Also I think we know Sony USA is not very fond of bundling. So the major market is probably not going to get HZD bundle.

Living up to your username I see.

 

[Ricky_R]

Bloodborne isn't first party but if we're listing it, don't forget Until Dawn. Wonderful game.


This started preproduction after KZ3 shipped. They talked about working on a new IP long before Shadow Fall was even announced.

Sony doesn't own the BB ip? I consider all IPs owned by Sony first party, regardless of the studio that develops it.

 

[SolidSnakex]

IS GG now the best Sony FP studio in terms of talent? have they surpassed Naught Dog?

The last sub-90 Metacritic game that ND released was a decade ago. Since then they've released four games, the lowest one received 92. And three of those games went on to when the majority of the GotY awards from that year. If we're being realistic here, no one else in the industry really has the type of track record that current ND has.

 

[B.O.O.M]

So Happy for GG. What a fantastic game..deserves all the sales and more

 

[Mikey Jr.]

So the chances of a new Killzone after Horizon's success are?

A massive waste of talent if they go back to Killzone now.

If Guerilla goes back to Killzone, they are dead to me.

 

[Loris146]

The last sub-90 Metacritic game that ND released was a decade ago. Since then they've released four games, the lowest one received 92. And three of those games went on to when the majority of the GotY awards from that year. If we're being realistic here, no one else in the industry really has the type of track record that current ND has.

Rockstar.

 

[DriftingSpirit]

A massive waste of talent if they go back to Killzone now.

If Guerilla goes back to Killzone, they are dead to me.

lol

 

[AcademicSaucer]

How many new IPs has Sony published on PS4?

 

[Phediuk]

How many new IPs has Sony published on PS4?

Knack, Driveclub, The Order, Bloodborne, Until Dawn, No Man's Sky, and Horizon.

Am I missing anything?

 

[AmethystEnd]

Knack, Driveclub, The Order, Bloodborne, Until Dawn, No Man's Sky, and Horizon.

Am I missing anything?

Sony published Nioh outside Japan.

 

[Ricky_R]

Knack, Driveclub, The Order, Bloodborne, Until Dawn, No Man's Sky, and Horizon.

Am I missing anything?

Not sure if TLG counts.

 

[SilentFlyer]

Sony doesn't own the BB ip? I consider all IPs owned by Sony first party, regardless of the studio that develops it.

Sony owns BB IP, but From Studio isn't first party studio.

 

[Moon Presence]

It will easily reach 8M during it's lifetime, with strategic bundles maybe more.

35 hours in, spectacular game in every possible way. There's a Guerrilla post Horizon, no way they're gonna be looked upon the same way after this.

 

[Miniature Kaiju]

It would be cool if Guerilla got a second, mid-sized team. Big team does Horizon stuff, big ideas, big projects; second unit does smaller stuff, the occasional Killzone, prototypes ideas.

The Cambridge unit was kinda like that, but we known how that went. Being in two different locations - two different countries - probably isn't ideal.

 

[Ricky_R]

Sony owns BB IP, but From Studio isn't first party studio.

Ahh, doubted who owned the ip for a moment... Still consider the game first party though, just made by a third party dev. If Sony wanted to, they could make a sequel with one of their studios (unless there's a clause?).

For all intents and purposes, it's a Sony game.